A full rebuild is needed

[kreidertime]

As somebody mentioned on X. Also, with significant ticket price reductions while the product is crap. This is a very bad hockey club. It should be way under .500. They basically had two goalies play out of their mind to start the season before they were ruined by the crap team. If not for that, this team would be 8 games under .500. I think you can trade Fox in the off-season before his NMC kicks in. Not sure. If you could do that I would get rid of Kreider, Fox, K. Miller. I would listen on Panarin. The first three would be key if you do a rebuild. The identity of the team should be like Washington. Big, physical and defensive. You have Edstrom and Rempe on the 4th line. Cuylle and Othmann up front. Rooebroeck coming sooner than later. Try to sign Bennett at all costs. Chychrun also. I think Perreault will need at least one year in the AHL.

 

[NYR_94]

If only someone had been saying they needed major core changes since they lost in the playoffs to Florida last season AND at least one of Panarin, Kreider, Zibanejad, Fox, K. Miller must go ....

Welcome aboard!!

 

[Messiah717]

Kreider and Zibanejad became happy to be one trick ponies. The one timer and deflections on the power play aren’t happening so look at what the rest of their game has become.

 

[NYR_94]

I really hate just about everything related to Zibanejad's game these days. It's so soft and weak, physically and mentally.

 

[kreidertime]

We are in serious danger of being fucked if Drury doesn’t really make elite moves.

 

[mrmel29]

Do we really want drury making these moves or someone else?

 

[kreidertime]

I’m not feeling all that comfortable with him doing this so if they fired him, I would not have a problem with it.

 

[kreidertime]

Watching this coach now with Othmann he’s gotta go. He just doesn’t know how to develop young players.

 

[Messiah717]

Watching this coach now with Othmann he’s gotta go. He just doesn’t know how to develop young players.

This organization could’ve been handed Mcdavid, Crosby or Ovy and still would’ve frigged it up. There has been decades of this lol.

 

[Messiah717]

New York teams now honestly seem like they don’t give a shit. They know the morons that we are will still keep filling the arenas and stadiums paying absurd prices for everything. Everything is a money grab regardless of the product they’re putting out there.

 

[kreidertime]

Yep I'm going to one game, April 2nd law enforcement night. That's it. Dolan needs to cut ticket prices 30%, hire the ex Canadian GM and rebuild. End of story.

 

[Greyvtrayn]

I'd put the chances of Dolan/MSG cutting the ticket prices at all (forget about cutting 30%) at less than 1%.

 

[kreidertime]

Yep

 

[kreidertime]

Get us to the off-season a quickly as possible so we can start dumping people. Drury can go as well. I won't miss his dumbass.

 

[BigDaddyAl1973]

New York teams now honestly seem like they don’t give a shit. They know the morons that we are will still keep filling the arenas and stadiums paying absurd prices for everything. Everything is a money grab regardless of the product they’re putting out there.

a bit overboard dont you think... team went to ECF, had a bad season and now they all dont give a shit?

 

[Messiah717]

a bit overboard dont you think... team went to ECF, had a bad season and now they all dont give a shit?

I’d say it’s more the ownership of these teams. For example I was reading an article about how many billions the Giants went up in value. This is over a decade where the team had been inept and prices just rise.

 

[kreidertime]

We have been blessed to enjoy a lot of playoff hockey over the last 15 years. Unfortunately this team doesn’t understand how to draft centers. While I agree you have to be a big physical team if you wanna win a cup you also have to have some speed whereas we seem a step slow. Stepan thinks every player in the NHL has to be lightning quick, which is a bunch of bullshit. However, it seems that we keep drafting these 6 foot seven guys and they don’t have a lot of quickness. We also need to start drafting more north/ south guys.

 

[kreidertime]

Hopefully you can do this rebuild in 2 to 3 years when you still have Shesterkin in his prime. I just don’t have much confidence in Drury to get it done.

 

[Ranger71]

Rempe's not any kind of answer on the 4th line going forward. He's as much a liability as he is any kind of help. Edstrom perhaps can last a few years but I'm not even sure about him. Sykora who knows.

 

[Messiah717]

I get it with Rempe but he’s the least of their problems. Obviously and for whatever reason here the truck completely broke down. The catalyst could very well of been Drury’s handling of the Trouba situation. I’m not saying he shouldn’t have been traded, but what they did completely destroyed the locker room. One of many reasons they need this guy away from this team.

 

[Stepupstepan]

lol full rebuild. The rangers dont know how to do a proper rebuild. They’re never done it in their history. What makes you think this time will be different? Dolan wont allow it since he needs playoffs revenue. They always do everything half ass. They never develop any great prospect pipeline or if they have some decent prospects they’ll never fully commit to them. They always hire retreats who will live and die with their overpaid vets. Fat face Lavi is the latest example

 

[Stepupstepan]

Look who manages player development. Jed Ortmeyer and fucking Tanner Glass. lol it’s a fucking joke

 

[kreidertime]

At least Rempe is working his ass off, trying to get better, which is a lot more I can say for the overpaid douchebags on this team. Pray for a miracle with lottery luck. Lava is history. I think Dolan dumps Drury also. I don’t want Martin our assistant GM to get the job. I would prefer the assistant GM from Toronto. Kreider needs to get the boot. He turned into a self entitled schmuck this season. Fox for the right price might be a potential move as well. K. Miller absolutely needs to go. That guy is a fucking idiot. And he should have some good value. I like to get rid of Zibanejad but I don’t know if they can. I give Lafreniere one more year.

 

[PorterPanzer]

I've thought Laf was a lazy piece of shit since day one when he showed up out of shape then pouted after Quinn called him out and has continued his tradition of showing up for the start of the season sucking wind with his stick glued to his knees after 12 minutes of ice time. Now this lazy bastard keeps his helmet on during the anthem when he's 20 points off last year's contract winning totals. Start the rebuild by sending this bum to Canada.

 

[kreidertime]

Montreal has some very interesting near NHL prospects. I could see them definitely wanting to bring Lafreniere there. However I don’t believe Drury knows how to get a good return after what I’ve seen.

 

[NYR_94]

I think we are going a bit too far now, and this is coming from someone who has been extremely critical of them since this past summer and was very confident that unfortunately this would be a bad season.

What the Rangers need is a GM who is not afraid to make big moves with important core guys. I disagree with most, I believe these core guys with clauses can be traded, again IF you have the right guy making the changes. I have just about zero doubt in my mind the right guy can get this team back in a good spot next season and make the necessary moves. Unfortunately, I also have just about zero doubt in my mind that Drury is not the guy who can do it. I truly hope I am wrong, and Drury shows me something I don't think we've seen from him thus far.

If Drury handles this the right way, I think Kreider can be moved, I think K. Miller or Fox can be moved, I also think if Drury wanted to, he could get Panarin to move with only one season left, and the Rangers can reshape the core with the players we need to be back near the top next season (I think the most unmovable guy is Zibanejad - we may just have to bite the bullet on him and hope he rededicates himself this summer). But as I have been saying, it will take boldness, creativity, and some risk taking, along with a ruthlessness, to get it done, I am not sure Drury has those qualities.

It may take being open to dealing Lafreniere and/or Schneider, everything should be on the table for the right move(s). This has to be a summer of boldness and an F you to the fat cat, overpaid, half a** core.

 

[NYR_94]

I get it with Rempe but he’s the least of their problems. Obviously and for whatever reason here the truck completely broke down. The catalyst could very well of been Drury’s handling of the Trouba situation. I’m not saying he shouldn’t have been traded, but what they did completely destroyed the locker room. One of many reasons they need this guy away from this team.

I think Rempe is fine on the 4th line. I actually like the Rangers 4th line mix with Rempe/Edstrom/Brod/Carrick/Berard. I said a few weeks ago, the Rangers biggest glaring need is a legit correct 3rd line, and it has been that way for a long time. And when I say a legit correct 3rd line, I don't mean skill like Lafreniere/Chytil/Kakko, I mean a 3rd line that can score some, hit hard, has some size, and can play the role you'd expect from a 3rd line. That to me is the Rangers biggest failing upfront for a while, and it needs to finally be fixed this summer.

As for Trouba, I think we agree if you are saying he should have been traded, but the way it was handled was terrible and destroyed the locker room. Sorry, but the Trouba situation was handled atrociously by Drury. Even if you say it wasn't his fault it got out there, or that Trouba blocked an initial trade, the fact that he kept Trouba after all that noise was a disaster for the team. And once again, BEFORE you get to the 1/2-yard line you have to know FOR SURE Trouba will accept the trade. Drury handled that situation like amateur hour.

The Trouba situation is not the only reason why the season devolved into a mess, that fate was sealed in July, but the Trouba mishandling absolutely had a negative impact on the team.

 

[Ranger71]

I think outside of Perreault, anything is on the table this summer.

 

[Greyvtrayn]

a bit overboard dont you think... team went to ECF, had a bad season and now they all dont give a shit?

If you watch the games it certainly appears as though no one gives a shit.

 

[kreidertime]

Somebody woke up angry.