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I'm not going to dispute the meaning of your current or projected W-L totals but the season isn't quite half over.....still some time to evaluate and critique the good and bad aspects of the team with the hope things improve. And technically, lol, the Yanks are on pace to win 85-86 games and I guess it then depends on whether they improve by 5 or so games over their last 85 games to be considered a "good" team.
Part of the long season. Grist for the ever grinding mill.
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And technically, lol, the Yanks are on pace to win 85-86 games and I guess it then depends on whether they improve by 5 or so games over their last 85 games to be considered a "good" team.
To be continued....
You're talking since May 11th.....I was referring to the remaining 85 games.
That's okay...nothing wrong with discussing past history.
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...and?........ you think that will be enough to beat out the O's, Rays or Jays ?
...what it the name of Homerville makes you think they will improve over what they have been thus far?
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Never said "90" wins will be enough to win the division or earn a playoff spot.
But to be fair to all teams...last year we saw two teams in the WS with less than 90 wins.
I specifically said....as we all were making our preseason picks.....
...I specifically stated "I can't tell you if (approx 90 wins) will be good enough to make the post season"...., but here is "my pick".
Who knows? The projected soft A.L East could have a couple of playoff teams.
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Bits & pieces is what I have seen & heard up to this point, and prior to season the s0x were the favorite, bout a month into season I hear the rays were the bottom dweller lucky to win 60 games, the orioles , we all figure would be a pain in the azz even with players lost, Boo jays, f em, but the Yankees????? No excuse for them to be fighting to compete, even with injuries, no excuses!
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...fence riding .
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pine riding , you can learn a lot
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...lol...I wasn't even replying to you.
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Please note that I said >90 +1 to +3 games depending on the number of >90 win teams. So for those in Rio Linda, that means a 90 win team doesn't not automatically make them a 'good team'. This is a really simple concept. I also did not extrapolate current records for a reason, that's cherry-picking. You cannot predict the final standings even from mid-year stats.
The grist for the mill is your indefensible position of trying to 'spin facts' and convince the board that the 2015 Yankees are a good team. THEY AREN'T by any standards. The fact that they are winning more than losing is independent of the quality of this team. I'm a fan like you, it gives me no pleasure making these statements. But mgmt has squandered opportunities to put the best team in pinstripes on the field. Any that's why we have to watch a mediocre NY Yankees. My greatest solace is that Derek Jeter didn't have to endure this fuckery as his last season.
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Tote, I don't believe I was cherry picking as I pointed out some good offensive stats and also pointed out BAD stats such as:
The Yankee SP (ERA) being 13th in the league and if it doesn't begin to improve rather quickly the Yanks will probably move closer to last place than first place.
BA/risp - I noted the Yanks being in the middle of the pack and said (on 3 other occasions) I would like to see it 20-30 points higher just like the rest of us would.
I don't quite understand what all of this "cherry picking" accusation is all about...I mentioned the Yanks ability to score runs using their excellent (so far) SLG% W/risp and runners on base...can I NOT point out a STAT which seems to be the best thing they have going for them (offense)? Of course it would be great if they had one of the best team ba w/risp...I agree. But they don't. And isn't SLG% a bona fide hitting stat?
Jeez, they had to be doing something right to be one of the best scoring teams in the league...no? And while their ba w/risp isn't good, it certainly isn't amoung the worst in the league. The Yanks get alot of extra base hits w/risp, runners on, and supplement it with a mediocre BA w/risp.
Could be better...but it is what it is....and it has been good enough to put up good run totals over the season.....so far.
Yes, I also know it'll be much more difficult to score vs top pitching in the post season without getting some basehits w/risp..if they should make it that far.
Different horses for different courses. The A.L East doesn't currently have an obvious "powerhouse" team, So maybe, possibly the Yanks or ANY OTHER team can win this division with 88 or so games.
Who's to say they couldn't then get hotter as the playoffs move on?
And as far as ANY team winning at least 90 games....I have to disagree with you because I believe this is a VERY GOOD W-L record and I am not about to call a team with 90 wins a bad team.
Now the Yankee offense is currently struggling which is a serious concern...if this trend continues, and the Yankee SP continues to struggle (Tanaka, CC, ect)..we could really be talking about "last place". ◀does this sound like a cherry picking optimist? Lol
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Yankees when held to 3 runs or less are 5-25 this season. 2 runs or less they're 2-22...
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Which is a by product of having SP which up until now have a collective ERA over 4.00.
I won't make a major issue over it...(sound familiar?) but this "stat" you noted can possibly...perhaps...maybe....be called CHERRY PICKING in order to highlight your overral negative feeling about this team's chances of possibly winning this division or a possible WC. LMAO....
Obviously if your SP rank near the bottom of the league allowing at least 4 ER per game....you're not going to win alot of games when you score 3 or less runs! Jeez!
And may I ask a silly question?.....what is the average W-L record for ALL teams when scoring 3 or less runs excluding the top 2 or 3 teams with leading (lowest) ERA for SP?
lol.......nah......this can't be called CHERRY PICKING...not at all.
Don't take it personal Rick.....I know you're trying to contribute.
Keep up the good work.
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...no, actually, it's not cherry picking...the stats rick posted are for the whole year...and the Yanx currently high ERA has not been as high as it is now for the whole year...in fact, earlier in the season their team ERA was quite low.
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This just in.......
Yanks lost yesterday 2-1 guaranteeing them a losing road trip to end this 20 game in 20 days stretch...with a real possibility of finishing the trip 2-5...and how did the Angels score their two runs?➡ TWO HOME RUNS!
Ironic huh?
Sometimes "CHERRY PICKING" isn't only for homerific homers. Lol
All in good fun.
Okay, I'm ready to face the usual triple teaming mugging. LMAO!
Yanks lost yesterday 2-1 guaranteeing them a losing road trip to end this 20 game in 20 days stretch...with a real possibility of finishing the trip 2-5...and how did the Angels score their two runs?➡ TWO HOME RUNS!
Ironic huh?
Sometimes "CHERRY PICKING" isn't only for homerific homers. Lol
All in good fun.
Okay, I'm ready to face the usual triple teaming mugging. LMAO!
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LOL, Trying to contribute? I feel safe to say that I've forgotten more about the game then you'll ever know but don't take it personal, I know YOU'RE just trying to contribute. And sometimes you actually do. Keep up the good work.
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How about the ("cherry picking" stat aka SLG%,? lmao )
Yanks SLG% W/risp and runners on base is NOT for the whole year?
No offense, but...because you choose to play it this way, I must say....if I had you and rick sitting at a table "discussing" these issues face to face with similar alotted time and a moderator....I would chew you both up for lunch....want to know why...simple...because BOTH of you choose to pick "fights" with me based on strawman issues.
I don't know what the fuk both of your problems are...but I suspect you both feel insecure and feel as if your self induced titles of being king of the BOARD is questioned a bit too much.
You fellas seem to prefer "YES MEN" who nod favorably with everything you say.
Sorry....I'm an independent thinker who is ready to explain and defend my opinions which may not agree with this bullsh!t little kangaroo court which YOU believe is your little kingdom.
As we used to say in the big city...."get straight"!
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That's your opinion....and you're entitled to it.
But don't believe for a moment, it has more merit or truth than mine just because YOU said it.
lol
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...you're " an independent thinker..."
...rick and I "choose to pick fights" with you.
...rick and I "both feel insecure and feel as if our self induced titles of being king of the BOARD is questioned too much"
...you "would chew us both up for lunch"
LMAO...^^^ that has to be the most maniacal bunch of BS I've ever read on this board.
...rick and I "choose to pick fights" with you.
...rick and I "both feel insecure and feel as if our self induced titles of being king of the BOARD is questioned too much"
...you "would chew us both up for lunch"
LMAO...^^^ that has to be the most maniacal bunch of BS I've ever read on this board.
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Stop backtracking......anyone with clear vision and an open mind can see - if I were to say the sea is wet....you would say it's dry.
LMAO...quite okay.
I can handle it......kinda entertaining especially when the alarm goes off and you try and attack or belittle a cogent relevant point (post) I make.
The latest folly you attempted regarding one of my posts.....
I pointed out the OBVIOUS most pronounced "stat" which sheds light on the Yankees being one of the best run scoring teams in the league--▶ SLG% w//risp, runners on base. They have a mediocre (at best) BA w/risp but have the 2nd best SLG% in the league w/risp,runners on base- they have, so far produced alot of extra base hits in those situations. Of course we would like to see the BA w/risp much higher but the SLG% stat has been carrying them.
What did I hear in return? I was "CHERRY PICKING"....lol..cherry picking!
Pointing out a superior team SLG% (W/runners on base) wasn't considered a legitimate, solid basic (reason) stat for the Yanks' being a good scoring team throughout the season....so far.
For example- I guess the difference between Wade Boggs and Hank Aaron is NOT SLG%..... nah.....that's "cherry picking"....After all, they both got over 3000 hits.....lol
Not much difference between Lou Brock and Willis Mays, both fast runners with 3000 hits........oops.....I forgot about SLG%....lmao
Ringmaster - send in the clowns.
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Broom Gilda, bring me my little tricycle and floppy shoes.
Seriously, just for clarification purposes, - regarding your reply:
how many times does it have to be pointed out that they have a good slugging % BECAUSE OF THE high anomalous number of HRs with RISP ? (post #17)...which where this started...Jesus, pay attention for a change.
Isn't this the very point of me (or anyone else) pointing out their superior SLG% w/runners on base?
I mean, the stat would not have any meaning if they hit alot of extra-basehits with NO runners on base...correct? Yes/No?
The stat is listed as "SLG% w/runners on base, w/risp".
This is what gives it significance. Yanks have done very well in those situations.
It's not listed as "SLG% with no runners on base".
Of course they hit alot of homers and doubles w/runners on base, I understand,
...that is what the stat is all about. In your own words:
( "BECAUSE OF THE high anomalous number of HRs with RISP" )
If the Yanks had a poor SLG% w/risp, runners on, they may already be very close to last place. Lol
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