A nice little xmas gift for Dallas from Coach McMuffin

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What the fuck was that? I have an idea Nate. When you can't rebound the ball, STOP PLAYING A FUCKING SMALL LINEUP!

Oh and you might want to try to involve Roy before we're down 7 with two minutes to go.

Oh and STOP FUCKING TELLING YOUR TEAM TO SWITCH ALL PICK AND ROLLS.

That was a disgusting loss that should have never happened. That fourth quarter management was a joke.

-Pop
 
this was horrible coaching. i usually dont call out the coachs but damn. did he even mention to the guards to box out?
 
I don't know how "small" your lineup is matters when a 5'11 PG is racking up offensive rebounds like it's going out of style.

Agree on the P&R. At least switch it up some, so it doesn't become your opponents' go-to play in crunch time.
 
I'm glad after three years people are starting to realize that it isn't the players entirely that are the cause for concern on offense and defense. Several different groups of players all who are doing/did the same thing reflects on the coach or some really great universal coincidence.
 
If I see our bigs guarding PG's anymore this season I will more than likely kick my tv in.
 
The sad thing is that McMuffin probably has the best job security in the league. I can't see us ever winning a title with the way that guy teaches pick-and-roll defense, or the way he manages substitutions.

-Pop
 
I'm ready for a new coach. A new coach and a new point guard.
 
I'd like to welcome all of you that ave finally decided that Nate is not a very good coach to reality.


Great motivator, lousy in game coach
 
I'm ready for a new coach. A new coach and a new point guard.

I just posted this in the game thread. People are blaming Oden for crying out loud. The "coach" has this guy messed up beyond belief. He was better in preseason. Go back and watch the games people, Oden was better before he had been exposed to part of a regular season under McNumbnuts.

I heard them say Nate has a "plan" for Oden. I hope Paul Allen has a plan to apologize to us fans in a few years if this nimrod is still coach. Has anyone EVER seen him take advantage of any opportunity that could help the team. I don't know, like DIRK NO DEFENSE Nowitski having 4 fouls on him early in the second half?

I will say that a TON of shots from the field and the ft line went in and out tonight for the team but still, this team needs a coach and a pg bad.
 
I'd like to welcome all of you that ave finally decided that Nate is not a very good coach to reality.


Great motivator, lousy in game coach

I've been on the train for over two seasons myself. The real kicker was last season in Philadelphia when he just got incredibly out-coached by Mo Cheeks and lost that game when we were up 20 or something. We made no adjustments at all.

He is a great motivator and would make a good assistant coach. I've got nothing personal with him but I know that if we want this team to be all it can be we must find another coach.
 
I just posted this in the game thread. People are blaming Oden for crying out loud. The "coach" has this guy messed up beyond belief. He was better in preseason. Go back and watch the games people, Oden was better before he had been exposed to part of a regular season under McNumbnuts.

I heard them say Nate has a "plan" for Oden. I hope Paul Allen has a plan to apologize to us fans in a few years if this nimrod is still coach. Has anyone EVER seen him take advantage of any opportunity that could help the team. I don't know, like DIRK NO DEFENSE Nowitski having 4 fouls on him early in the second half?

I will say that a TON of shots from the field and the ft line went in and out tonight for the team but still, this team needs a coach and a pg bad.

I think you just summed up all my frustration. Nate was great for our young team but it is time for a change. I've been thinking about this for the past 2 weeks. Tonight's game confirmed to me, Nate has to go.
People bitch about Oden but in my opinion it is the coach’s fault. I haven’t seen Shaq defending out at the 3 point line in 15 years as Oden in 20 games.
Nowitzki had 4 fouls with 9:03 left in the third. He sat until the 4 minutes mark and did not pick up his 5th until the end of the game. Nate is a dumb ass not exploiting that situation. With Howard gone we would have won easily.

Also, Dallas had 4 fouls on them with 6+ minutes to go in the second. What did we do? Shot 6 straight jumpers. Great coaching and it happens every game.
 
Whom would you guys like to see replace Nate?

I called for Carlisle last season, but some of you over BBF said he was not too fond of the open court game (which could be a staple of our team).

I like Van Gundy.
 
Whom would you guys like to see replace Nate?

I called for Carlisle last season, but some of you over BBF said he was not too fond of the open court game (which could be a staple of our team).

I like Van Gundy.

2 Great example of why we keep Nate. Oh and the Roy fuck up in the 4th....was Brandon's. He kept deferring to travis and then it was too late. (He looked tired tonight at the end.)
 
The real kicker was last season in Philadelphia when he just got incredibly out-coached by Mo Cheeks and lost that game when we were up 20 or something.

Oh, c'mon. Everyone gets outcoached by Mo. The way he puts his head in his hands is devastating.

barfo
 
Van Gundy could be an option. I would take a look it Musselman. I have problem with Nate not having a contract for next year. We'll make the playoff this year and give him a 5 year extension. We’ll not fire him in the first 2-3 years of the new contract. By then our team either broken up due to lack of success or our players sign with other teams due to cap space. ..Or they don’t develop to their full potential under our current coaching staff.
 
I said it a few weeks ago, Fez did I think as well as a bunch of other guys. Tom Thibodeau. I probably couldn't pick the guy out of a lineup but from everything I have read he would be perfect for this team.

I would rather hire a nobody out of college who has a brilliant mind than another retread.
 
Whom would you guys like to see replace Nate?

I called for Carlisle last season, but some of you over BBF said he was not too fond of the open court game (which could be a staple of our team).

I like Van Gundy.

I'd go for Van Gundy. I know people think he's crazy and psychotic, but he'd at least put in defensive schemes that wouldn't leave our 7 center and 6'11 power foward on the perimeter because we've decided we're going to switch on ever pick and let them pick up fouls for no reason what so ever.
 
i agree that part of the problem is how greg is being used. i don't think we've ever seen a #1 pick who never had plays run for him. even when dirk and brandon bass are checking him.

nate is far too rigid as a coach. slow to adapt, unable to innovate. mavs were killing us with quickness tonight, but he never matched the quickness, nor did he make them pay with size. he just has no "feel" for the nuances of the NBA. and it's his 8th freaking year as a head coach.

what would you say about a player who seemed like he'd be a really great player, who had all the tools to be a star, yet always came up short or made an bad mistake at a bad time? what if there was always an excuse -- like their youth, an injury, a bad break -- but the just seemed to keep treading water. for 8 years. 8 long years...

folks, you'd have al harrington. you'd have derrick coleman. or lamar odom. or macgrady... and after 8 years, you'd know for sure that the player was unlikely to ever get better. well, nate is the coach version of such a player. he's been an NBA coach for a long, long time. yes the talent he's had to work with has been suspect at times, but not always. his teams have just barely exceeded expectations for 8 years. i think we know what we are getting out of him as a coach at this point. and it's not enough if we ever want to win a title.

i'd love to see what a jeff van gundy could do with this roster. or even better, a euro coach who could run some really innovative stuff.
 
I think that Nate is a great coach for deleoping talent and motivaton but hes unable to adapt his game plan durig he game.. I know this may sound crazy but maybe KP will come out and coach the team again
 
Yep, I am tired of Nate. Are we the ONLY team in the NBA that calls for mismatches against our favor, time and time again? By switching the pick and roll, we are screwing ourselves. Also, if Blake drives to the hole one more time with no idea of what the hell he is going to do with it, i'm gonna go insane. His turnovers are KILLING US!
 
Yep, I am tired of Nate. Are we the ONLY team in the NBA that calls for mismatches against our favor, time and time again? By switching the pick and roll, we are screwing ourselves. Also, if Blake drives to the hole one more time with no idea of what the hell he is going to do with it, i'm gonna go insane. His turnovers are KILLING US!

It surprised me that there wasn't really much of a discussion or even a blip on the map if you will for his statements before the Toronto game. He openly said the night before that he'd use Frye or Martell depending on what Toronto did. He said if they went small then we'd play Martell and if they went big then we'd play Frye. Why would you let the other team, a team with a new interim head coach at that, dictate the matchup? Why aren't we creating mismatches?
 
We should do what a lot of teams are doing, fire the coach, then realize that it isn't the coach.

We weren't switching screens earlier in the year and we were getting torched from the 3pt line and everyone was freaking. Now we switch them, creating mis-matches, and people are mad. Next, Nate will have us double team them, and people will be mad.

There is a reason every team runs a pick and roll, because it's impossible to defend if ran correctly. We run it fairly effectively, and so do other teams. Ultimately I don't blame Nate for missing 11 FT's, 23 points of turnovers, or 28 2nd chance point. All those things come effort and concentration. We were getting out rebounded because of size. We were missing FT's because bad shooters were in the game, and we weren't turning the ball over because Nate was calling plays for turnover-prone players.

The players failed to execute, stay out of foul trouble, get after lose balls, and focus at the line.
 
We should do what a lot of teams are doing, fire the coach, then realize that it isn't the coach.

We weren't switching screens earlier in the year and we were getting torched from the 3pt line and everyone was freaking. Now we switch them, creating mis-matches, and people are mad. Next, Nate will have us double team them, and people will be mad.

That's not true. People were complaining about us being in a zone defense and leaving three pointers wide open for threes even when the other team had great three point shooters and was hitting from deep. This is actually still happening. It had nothing to do with not switching on screens.
 
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I'll give Nate the Benefit of the Doubt that he was yelling at his players to attack the basket and attack the boards. So what did he do when they didn't?

Sergio commits a silly fouls and gets yanked in the middle of a 4-4 night where he was shredding the D, relatively staying with his man, and playing like, well, like an NBA PG.

You're telling me that half of our lineup was blatently disregarding Nate's screaming orders, showing tiredness (at best) and laziness/ineptitude (at worst), and that's the lineup we're losing with?

Can't have it both ways. He either wasn't instructing them the right way, or he was rewarding poor play with crunch time, while rewarding great energy and play with bench time. :dunno:
 
That's not true. People were complaining about us being in a zone defense and leaving three pointers wide open for threes even when the other team had great three point shooters and was hitting from deep. This is actually still happening. It had nothing to do with not switching on screens.
I specifically remember two games threads where people were asking how someone could be wide open for 3's when we were in man and the guy in the corner was getting the ball swung to him.

I also recall the thread where people were upset about zone. And the thread with people complaining about our offense. And the thread where people were complaining about the substitution patterns. The complaints never end, no matter who our head coach has been.

So what I'm gathering from this game is that people wished we didn't switch screens. Are they suggesting that we hedge them (which Greg and Travis do a horrible job at)? Do they want us to go under the screen, giving wide open threes? Do they want us to fight over the top, allowing the PG to take it directly to the hoop? There is a drawback to all ways of defending a pick and roll, that is why everyone runs it!

I'd love to hear solutions instead of complaints....
 
I specifically remember two games threads where people were asking how someone could be wide open for 3's when we were in man and the guy in the corner was getting the ball swung to him.

I also recall the thread where people were upset about zone. And the thread with people complaining about our offense. And the thread where people were complaining about the substitution patterns. The complaints never end, no matter who our head coach has been.

So what I'm gathering from this game is that people wished we didn't switch screens. Are they suggesting that we hedge them (which Greg and Travis do a horrible job at)? Do they want us to go under the screen, giving wide open threes? Do they want us to fight over the top, allowing the PG to take it directly to the hoop? There is a drawback to all ways of defending a pick and roll, that is why everyone runs it!

I'd love to hear solutions instead of complaints....

Just because complaints never end doesn't mean that some of them aren't legit.

I would like us to fight over the top because I have more faith in LaMarcus, Joel or Greg being able to recover (or come from the weak side) and affect the shot than I do with having one of them be stuck on the perimeter and getting into foul trouble.

And well to be honest, it isn't like the PG isn't taking it directly to the hoop already at this point.
 
I specifically remember two games threads where people were asking how someone could be wide open for 3's when we were in man and the guy in the corner was getting the ball swung to him.

I also recall the thread where people were upset about zone. And the thread with people complaining about our offense. And the thread where people were complaining about the substitution patterns. The complaints never end, no matter who our head coach has been.

So what I'm gathering from this game is that people wished we didn't switch screens. Are they suggesting that we hedge them (which Greg and Travis do a horrible job at)? Do they want us to go under the screen, giving wide open threes? Do they want us to fight over the top, allowing the PG to take it directly to the hoop? There is a drawback to all ways of defending a pick and roll, that is why everyone runs it!

I'd love to hear solutions instead of complaints....

Here's one....SWITCH YOUR GAMEPLAN! You can defend the P&R in at least 6 different ways. We do one. All the time. We switch on screens. Every time. Why not mix it up, like when Nate mixes zone in for a few possessions? Still switch on some, hedge some, jam some, but mix it up. It's not that hard.
 

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