A realistic scenario if Aldridge and Matthews both are gone.

[bradk8605]

I came up with the realistic scenario assuming Aldridge leaves and Matthews wants too much. I believe this scenario is completely realistic: We don't pick up team option on Kaman and sign Paul Millsap & DeMarre Carroll who are both Unrestricted Free Agents. We get defense & shooting from Carroll and a quality Power forward in Millsap who is consistent, has range and can shoot 3's just like Aldridge. Thoughts?

2015 Roster

Starters
PG: Damian Lillard
SG: CJ McCollum
SF: DeMarre Carroll
PF: Paul Millsap
C: Mason Plumlee/Meyers Leonard

Reserves
PG: Tim Frazier
SG: Gerald Henderson
SF: Pat Connaughton/Allan Crabbe
PF: Noah Vonleh
C: Meyers Leonard/ Mason Plumlee

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Don't want to rain on your parade or anything, but if I'm Carroll I don't come to a LMA-less blazer team without receiving a max contract. Similar thinking on Millsap.

Think younger...

 

[BigGameDamian]

Think Tarriance Ross!!!

 

[Scalma]

That looks like an 8th seed at best. Rather just go young and tank

 

[magnifier661]

That looks like an 8th seed at best. Rather just go young and tank

I'm with you! Also, if Aldridge bolts, I would do whatever I can to make room for next summer. Better players available, plus we would most likely get a nice draft pick from tanking.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Let me get something off my chest. People who post a lot recently seem to not understand that....

Kaman is one of our most valuable trade assets. If a team is in the Luxury Tax and wants to get out of it, they want Kaman - why?
Because they can trade for Kaman and dump most of his salary for IMMEDIATE tax savings of about $3.5 mil - He makes around $5 mil and only
$1 mil is guaranteed (approximate numbers). If we absolutely need the savings ourselves we can do as the OP suggests and just dump him.

Either way, he's gone as we have just traded for his replacement.

If we "go young" Kaman's contract could totally be used to get a reasonable player. Olshey got RoLo and Robinson with less.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

I'm with you! Also, if Aldridge bolts, I would do whatever I can to make room for next summer. Better players available, plus we would most likely get a nice draft pick from tanking.

Absolutely will not happen. If PA has even the vaguest whiff of a tank, Olshey will be fired. Olshey knows this.

 

[magnifier661]

Let me get something off my chest. People who post a lot recently seem to not understand that....

Kaman is one of our most valuable trade assets. If a team is in the Luxury Tax and wants to get out of it, they want Kaman - why?
Because they can trade for Kaman and dump most of his salary for IMMEDIATE tax savings of about $3.5 mil - He makes around $5 mil and only
$1 mil is guaranteed (approximate numbers). If we absolutely need the savings ourselves we can do as the OP suggests and just dump him.

Either way, he's gone as we have just traded for his replacement.

If we "go young" Kaman's contract could totally be used to get a reasonable player. Olshey got RoLo and Robinson with less.

That ends Tuesday though. The option deadline ends June 30.

 

[magnifier661]

Absolutely will not happen. If PA has even the vaguest whiff of a tank, Olshey will be fired. Olshey knows this.

Which is why I think we go "all in" and build around Aldridge and Lillard.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

That ends Tuesday though. The option deadline ends June 30.

Let the feast begin!

(2 HP references today and no HCP to put me in my mom's basement )

 

[magnifier661]

Let the feast begin!

(2 HP references today and no HCP to put me in my mom's basement )

Although, he's a perfect player for teams that want to dump, like Hibbert for example. The $5 mil Kaman, plus 10 mil space will get him, giving a team like Indiana 24 mil free to use this summer.

 

[riverman]

Let me get something off my chest. People who post a lot recently seem to not understand that....

Kaman is one of our most valuable trade assets. If a team is in the Luxury Tax and wants to get out of it, they want Kaman - why?
Because they can trade for Kaman and dump most of his salary for IMMEDIATE tax savings of about $3.5 mil - He makes around $5 mil and only
$1 mil is guaranteed (approximate numbers). If we absolutely need the savings ourselves we can do as the OP suggests and just dump him.

Either way, he's gone as we have just traded for his replacement.

If we "go young" Kaman's contract could totally be used to get a reasonable player. Olshey got RoLo and Robinson with less.

The Bulls would jump on this for Taj Gibson..they have to pay Butler or match a max offer for him and want Gibson gone..

 

[damianlillard]

That looks like an 8th seed at best. Rather just go young and tank

if Wes and LA leaves, we should do a sign and trade and see if we can get a lot draft picks. if LA signs with Houston, we should get terrence jones, sam dekker, kj mcdaniels, and patrick beverley. if Wes sign with let say nuggets, we should get emmanuel mudiay, 2016 1st round pick from knicks, and our 2016 1st round pick. use 45 millions on tobias harris, demarre carroll, and paul milsap. trade mudiay to net for rondae
dame-patrick beverley-frazier
demarre carroll-cj-kj
tobias-sam dekker or rondae
milsap-jones
mason-meyers-kaman

that team would probably even be better than last year team now and the future. our bench would become the best bench unit in nba history. our 2nd unit could still complete with a lot of starters in the nba. that team probably be the best scenario if wes, LA, and robin leaves

 

[Wizard Mentor]

The Bulls would jump on this for Taj Gibson..they have to pay Butler or match a max offer for him and want Gibson gone..

Do it, now!

 

[rasheedfan2005]

 

[damianlillard]

and with our 2 1st round pick next, we can draft ben simmons and domantas sabonis or gary payton

 

[OneLifeToLive]

If we lose LA, I would look to get a quick commitment from Kevin Love. I would rather see the team stay competitive and improve on the go than rebuild. But...If I couldn't get a commitment from Love, I would then field the team very similarly to the way the Lakers fielded their team in the last two years with one year contracts and ok to decent talent. And then look to rebuild through next years draft and next years free agency.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Kevin Love is not walking through that door.
Neither is Kawai Leonard.
Neither is Marc Gasol, LeBron James, Draymon Green, Jimmy Butler, Dwayne Wade, Goran Dragic, or Khris Middleton.
Neither is any Restricted FA.

 

[Mediocre Man]

If LA Leaves I'd like to see us add Monroe and Butler Not sure if GWH or Vonleh could be a starting 4 on a good team, but that isn't horrible

 

[Strenuus]

Think Tarriance Ross!!!

who?

 

[Blazinaway]

I'm with you! Also, if Aldridge bolts, I would do whatever I can to make room for next summer. Better players available, plus we would most likely get a nice draft pick from tanking.

however literally every team will have a ton of capspace, if there are guys we like I say go for it this year

 

[riverman]

I'm with you! Also, if Aldridge bolts, I would do whatever I can to make room for next summer. Better players available, plus we would most likely get a nice draft pick from tanking.

I hate the tanking way of thinking...no balls, no dignity in losing on purpose in front of a fanbase like Portland has. I don't care how clever it sound to do it..it sucks. Want it out of the game.

 

[Pinwheel1]

If LA Leaves I'd like to see us add Monroe and Butler Not sure if GWH or Vonleh could be a starting 4 on a good team, but that isn't horrible

I know they are just rumors, but the rumors seem to all indicate that Monroe is headed for NY.

 

[Pinwheel1]

The prevailing thinking is that Hibbert is only a good idea if LMA comes back, but I wonder if his presence might help Leonard and Vonleh. And With CJ and Dame getting big minutes at guards it would be nice to have a big guy sitting back there protecting the rim.

So if we are talking realistic possibilities, .......Hibbert is realistic. He gets no choice where he is traded to. It would be a salary dump for Indiana. No assets in return. So even if it was for one year, we still would have his cap space next year if he elected to move on, so it would not hurt our rebuilding process. And lets face it if LMA leaves we are rebuilding.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

The prevailing thinking is that Hibbert is only a good idea if LMA comes back, but I wonder if his presence might help Leonard and Vonleh. And With CJ and Dame getting big minutes at guards it would be nice to have a big guy sitting back there protecting the rim.

So if we are talking realistic possibilities, .......Hibbert is realistic. He gets no choice where he is traded to. It would be a salary dump for Indiana. No assets in return. So even if it was for one year, we still would have his cap space next year if he elected to move on, so it would not hurt our rebuilding process. And lets face it if LMA leaves we are rebuilding.

 

[Pinwheel1]

So....... you are agreeing with me? As the video points out the issues were internal. He was the runner up as D player of the year, and then "something" happened, and the team fell apart. Sounds like he is worth the gamble if it is just money for one year.

 

[magnifier661]

And yet he was still third in the entire league in 2014/15 at FG% defense at the rim. 40.4% opponents shoot at the rim when he was in the game.

And let's make sure to note that he was blooming into a great center, averaging 12 points, 13 rebounds and 4 blocks per game before his best friend, Paul George, slept with his fiancé.

15 mil to kick the tires and see if he can be that same player is low risk, high reward. If he doesn't work out, you can either sign him for cheap or let him go and have an additional 15 mil in cap next summer.

 

[riverman]

Whole lotta Knicks fans are lobbying for Wes to be a Knick with Melo next season. Was reading some comments about their draft and there was a lot more Wes talk than anybody else.

 

[Wahdeezy]

1 offer Kawi Leonard crazy money that make the Spurs think about it. Make the Spurs pay. That will buy the Lakers time to sign LaMarcus. Make Cleveland play up and sign Tristan Thompson to an offer sheet. Tristan is Lebrons guy then we have more $ love won't turn down. Kevin love will then have to choose Cleveland Boston or Portland. Best chance we got to save this franchise is to make Kawi the highest paid player in the league.

 

[Scalma]

Best chance we got to save this franchise is to make Kawi the highest paid player in the league.

Save this franchise from what? We're not exactly some powerhouse.