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$5.75 today for me
In Canby, Gladstone and Milwaukie gas is about $4.49I just fueled up on 99e at the chevron in OC and it was $4.39per gallon.
Pdx taxes ripping residents off or something?

Edit: I see you were referring to premium. Most people dont get premium. Most people will consider the gas rate at what normal gas is. Not premium.
Still think you are getting ripped off….
And how come it isn't making the highest recorded price from AAA?


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33rd and Killings worth has premium for 5.99/gallon at a 76 station per Gas Buddy.

It is hard to say what premium is everywhere because not everyone reports premium gas but an Arco around that area had 5.35/gallon reported in the last day too.
 
I don't understand why everyone is talking about premium. Most modern cars are built to run regular.

If you purchased a car that can't run regular you are in the minority.
 
I don't understand why everyone is talking about premium. Most modern cars are built to run regular.

If you purchased a car that can't run regular you are in the minority.
K. So we should exclude those that do have premium gas and their experience?
Got it.

Regular unleaded from here on out.
 
K. So we should exclude those that do have premium gas and their experience?
Got it.

Regular unleaded from here on out.
Why would we talk about the price that only 10% of people choose pay?

I just don't like the idea that we are accepting this higher price as normal.

Cars are increasingly being built to require premium because it is becoming more acceptable.

Not a good trend, in my opinion.
 
Why would we talk about the price that only 10% of people choose pay?

I just don't like the idea that we are accepting this higher price as normal.

Cars are increasingly being built to require premium because it is becoming more acceptable.

Not a good trend, in my opinion.
Because people can share their own experiences gatekeeper.

I no longer have premium myself, just was curious because I have had premium cars before and wanted to research the discussion above.

Regular in Portland is all over the map. Gas buddy showed around $4.09/gallon to about $4.99/gallon depending on station.

The more important point is i've seen my local gas stations go up by about 80 cents a gallon over the last few weeks. I expect that to continue to climb.
 
Because people can share their own experiences gatekeeper.

I no longer have premium myself, just was curious because I have had premium cars before and wanted to research the discussion above.

Regular in Portland is all over the map. Gas buddy showed around $4.09/gallon to about $4.99/gallon depending on station.

The more important point is i've seen my local gas stations go up by about 80 cents a gallon over the last few weeks. I expect that to continue to climb.

I paid $3.20 2 weeks ago. We havent even hit a "few" weeks yet. In 2 weeks it went up 80 cents.
 
Because people can share their own experiences gatekeeper.

I no longer have premium myself, just was curious because I have had premium cars before and wanted to research the discussion above.

Regular in Portland is all over the map. Gas buddy showed around $4.09/gallon to about $4.99/gallon depending on station.

The more important point is i've seen my local gas stations go up by about 80 cents a gallon over the last few weeks. I expect that to continue to climb.
Wow. So we're jumping straight to name calling? I'm sorry I asked a question and gave my perspective.

I thought looking at the actual nation wide fuel prices would be a better indication of what people are actually paying...

I didn't suggest there should be any kind of limit on the conversation. I asked a question.

It just seems odd that everybody seems to be talking about premium when most people don't buy it.

That said, I agree. Fuel prices are going to keep going up.
 
Wow. So we're jumping straight to name calling? I'm sorry I asked a question and gave my perspective.

I thought looking at the actual nation wide fuel prices would be a better indication of what people are actually paying...

I didn't suggest there should be any kind of limit on the conversation. I asked a question.

It just seems odd that everybody seems to be talking about premium when most people don't buy it.

That said, I agree. Fuel prices are going to keep going up.
Gatekeeper is name calling?

Also you should have heard me say it in person, it wasn't meant as a dig, more sarcastic like. Sorry if it came across that way.

I think the conversation is fine either way, personally. Just acknowledgement of other peoples experience.
 
Gatekeeper is name calling?

Also you should have heard me say it in person, it wasn't meant as a dig, more sarcastic like. Sorry if it came across that way.

I think the conversation is fine either way, personally. Just acknowledgement of other peoples experience.
My apologies.

I think the conversation is fine either way. I just see most people posting premium prices. Which seems strange. I never even look at the premium price. It doesn't even enter my mind.

They choose to pay that price. They chose to buy a vehicle that required more expensive gasoline.

It just seems like somebody complaining about the price of their filet mignon surf and turf at Ruth's Chris, as though that's the standard price for a dinner out...

Just an observation.
 
My apologies.

I think the conversation is fine either way. I just see most people posting premium prices. Which seems strange. I never even look at the premium price. It doesn't even enter my mind.

They choose to pay that price. They chose to buy a vehicle that required more expensive gasoline.

It just seems like somebody complaining about the price of their filet mignon surf and turf at Ruth's Chris, as though that's the standard price for a dinner out...

Just an observation.
I had a wrx when I had to get premium gas. Now I have a mid-size truck. I think i pay pretty close to the same after making that change. I switched so we had something a little more comfortable for the family.

Both ways i punched myself in the nuts.
 
I had a wrx when I had to get premium gas. Now I have a mid-size truck. I think i pay pretty close to the same after making that change. I switched so we had something a little more comfortable for the family.

Both ways i punched myself in the nuts.
Yeah, I'm not sure if a mid-size truck is saving you any money on fuel over premium! Lol
 
The Cadillacs, Lexuses, and Accuras I've owned all required premium gas. Could you put regular in it? Sure, just like you can put in different weight motor oil than what the manufacturer says you should put in. But would you do it? I doubt it.

If the manufacturer says this type of gas, this weight of oil, this type of transmission fluid, ect. I'm doing it.

...

Also, the quality of gas can vary greatly between station chains. Just because it's cheap, doesn't mean it's good. Right now, I find the best bang for good gas is Costco. Are their cheaper stations? Sure, but those stations are not Top Tier rated, Costco is.



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The Cadillacs, Lexuses, and Accuras I've owned all required premium gas. Could you put regular in it? Sure, just like you can put in different weight motor oil than what the manufacturer says you should put in. But would you do it? I doubt it.

If the manufacturer says this type of gas, this weight of oil, this type of transmission fluid, ect. I'm doing it.

...

Also, the quality of gas can vary greatly between station chains. Just because it's cheap, doesn't mean it's good. Right now, I find the best bang for good gas is Costco. Are their cheaper stations? Sure, but those stations are not Top Tier rated, Costco is.



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There are regulations on how bad gasoline can be. You can't legally sell "bad" gas.

I would not purchase a vehicle that requires premium gasoline. It is not necessary. You can get just as much power, reliability, and longevity out of regular as you can premium.

Now, people are welcome to do so. By all means, feel free to pay more. But it just seems strange to make that choice and then complain about it.
 
There are regulations on how bad gasoline can be. You can't legally sell "bad" gas.

I would not purchase a vehicle that requires premium gasoline. It is not necessary. You can get just as much power, reliability, and longevity out of regular as you can premium.

Now, people are welcome to do so. By all means, feel free to pay more. But it just seems strange to make that choice and then complain about it.

Premium gas has a higher octane rating than regular gas. An octane rating is a measurement of a gasoline’s ability to resist issues like engine-damaging knock and pinging, which can be brought on by high compression, turbocharging or supercharging typically used in high-performance engines. It can also be caused by carbon deposits in older engines.

The question about using premium gas usually arises because people have seen a notation inside their car’s fuel door that mentions premium fuel. However, in terms of having to use premium fuel in newer cars, “Premium Fuel Recommended” has a different meaning than “Premium Fuel Required,” or “Premium Unleaded Fuel Only.” (Some may simply list a minimum octane rating.) If the sticker says, “Premium Fuel Recommended,” you should be able to use regular gas safely. But if it says “Required” or “Only,” you should use premium.

Higher compression in an engine produces higher horsepower, but it may require premium gas to do it. That’s because newer engines have electronic knock sensors that can detect the onset of knock and pinging and tell the computer to back off on engine ignition timing to compensate for lower-octane fuels, though power may be reduced a bit as a result. On turbocharged or supercharged engines, the boost (which makes more horsepower, but may require premium fuel to do so) can also be backed off to do the same.

For example, for the 2022 CX-5, Mazda lists its 2.5-liter turbocharged engine as producing 227 horsepower with regular fuel and 256 hp with premium 93-octane fuel. In this case, premium gas is simply recommended (some fuel-door notations might even add “for best performance”). So, if the placard inside your fuel door says, “Premium Fuel Recommended,” you should be fine using regular. You just may not get quite as much power.

What If I Accidentally Fill My Tank With Regular When Premium Is Required?​

If you accidentally put regular gas in a car that requires premium, you should be OK, though there are things you should probably do to help compensate. There likely would be some premium left in the tank that would help offset the regular you put in, but you can improve your odds by driving gently and filling with premium when the tank gets down to three-quarters full — and then again at half full.

An Exception in Older Engines​

Regardless of the fuel that’s recommended, drivers of older cars may notice a bit of knock and pinging coming from the engine, particularly under acceleration. This is sometimes due to carbon deposits that have built up in the cylinders, which can not only effectively raise the compression ratio, but may develop hot spots that can ignite the air-fuel mixture prematurely. In some cases, using a higher-octane fuel is enough to reduce or even get rid of the knock and ping. If that doesn’t help, it’s probably time to consult a mechanic.

The Bottom Line​

If you’re not noticing a knocking or pinging noise coming from your engine, and if premium fuel is just recommended for your car, you should be able to use regular without problems. But if premium fuel is required, it’s certainly best to fill it with premium.

 
But gas price and octane isn't really the concern, the price of diesel is. And diesel in Oregon is $5 average. That is what will drive up costs for almost everything we buy.
 
But gas price and octane isn't really the concern, the price of diesel is. And diesel in Oregon is $5 average. That is what will drive up costs for almost everything we buy.
Between diesel going up and increasing the price of goods because of shipping and trucking costs, and gas going up for our personal vehicles, it is like we are getting double teamed!
 
Premium gas has the same amount of octane from the gasoline in it that regular did before ethanol was added to cut the gas. My car ran like ass on regular: 24mpg, no power, had to wait for my car to decide it was okay to accellerate when I pressed the gas pedal. Filling with premium fixed all of that. I get 30mpg like the manufacturer states I should get. I have power on tap flexing my big toe on the gas pedal. It’s almost like my car was designed for gasoline, not whatever gets sold in the US.
 
Premium gas has the same amount of octane from the gasoline in it that regular did before ethanol was added to cut the gas. My car ran like ass on regular: 24mpg, no power, had to wait for my car to decide it was okay to accellerate when I pressed the gas pedal. Filling with premium fixed all of that. I get 30mpg like the manufacturer states I should get. I have power on tap flexing my big toe on the gas pedal. It’s almost like my car was designed for gasoline, not whatever gets sold in the US.
Ethanol has an octane rating of 108 to 114. Premium has an octane rating of like 93.

Manufacturers design vehicles for fuel with ethanol in it.

It's awesome that you found a fix for your specific situation. I would guess there is something wrong with your vehicle if it doesn't run well on the recommended gasoline.

Hopefully that doesn't lead to other problems if not addressed...
 
Ethanol has an octane rating of 108 to 114. Premium has an octane rating of like 93.

Manufacturers design vehicles for fuel with ethanol in it.

It's awesome that you found a fix for your specific situation. I would guess there is something wrong with your vehicle if it doesn't run well on the recommended gasoline.

Hopefully that doesn't lead to other problems if not addressed...
Gosh you’re so much smarter than me!
 

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