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So the dark side of social democracies is that they're too good at capitalism and consumerism?

huh?

“But the data tell a different story. The Nordic countries have some of the highest levels of resource use and CO2 emissions in the world, in consumption-based terms, drastically overshooting safe planetary boundaries.

Ecologists say that a sustainable level of resource use is about 7 tonnes of material stuff per person per year. Scandinavians consume on average more than 32 tonnes per year. That is four and a half times over the sustainable level, similar to the United States, driven by overconsumption of everything from meat to cars to plastic.

As for emissions, the Nordic countries perform worse than the rest of Europe, and only marginally better than the world’s most egregious offenders – the US, Australia, Canada, Saudi Arabia. Yes, they generate more renewable energy than most countries, but these gains are wiped out by carbon-intensive imports.

This is why the Nordic countries fall toward the very bottom of the Sustainable Development Index. We think of these nations as progressive, but in fact, their performance has worsened over time. Sweden, for example, has gone from 0.755 on the index in the 1990s down to 0.328 today, plunging from the top seven to number 143.

For decades we have been told that nations should aspire to develop towards the Nordic countries. But in an era of ecological breakdown, this no longer makes sense. If everyone in the world consumedlike Scandinavians, we would need nearly five Earths to sustain us.”
 
If everyone in the world consumedlike Scandinavians, we would need nearly five Earths to sustain us.”

This is true of every first world country and has nothing to do with their economy, other than energy.

These are problems we need to solve just as much as the Nordic countries do.
 
And this is where the conversation breaks down. I don't believe in leveling judgements on people without evidence.

behavior and tone is evidence. Your analytics arent viable in every situation.

sometime the only evidence is opinion.


there is not factual evidence Trump is racist but people use his behavior as evidence.
So you are correct. It breaks down here because some people understand numbers cant be put to everything. Some things are only evident through observation without any quantifiable evidence or proof.

so as long as there is no evidence she is anti police there is also no evidence Trump is racist.
Its funny how evidence or proof must be had for some opinions but not others.

only required when it fits the narrative.

so i could care less if there is or isnt provable evidence. Her tone and behavior has supplied enough evidence for those who look beyond graphs and analytics.
 
behavior and tone is evidence. Your analytics arent viable in every situation.

sometime the only evidence is opinion.


there is not factual evidence Trump is racist but people use his behavior as evidence.
So you are correct. It breaks down here because some people understand numbers cant be put to everything. Some things are only evident through observation without any quantifiable evidence or proof.

so as long as there is no evidence she is anti police there is also no evidence Trump is racist.
Its funny how evidence or proof must be had for some opinions but not others.

only required when it fits the narrative.

so i could care less if there is or isnt provable evidence. Her tone and behavior has supplied enough evidence for those who look beyond graphs and analytics.
Well, she has proposed solutions to improve policing, where as Trump has a long history of saying racist things and treating minorities terribly.
https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history

If you want to make a stand right there defending Trump have at it.
 
Trump called the Unite the Right rally with swastikas, confederate flags and antisemitic chants very fine people. He has been repeatedly sued for racial discrimination. He called Mexicans rapists and referred to Haiti and countries in Africa as shitholes. He called COVID China virus and kung flu. How much evidence for racism do you need?
 
behavior and tone is evidence. Your analytics arent viable in every situation.

sometime the only evidence is opinion.


there is not factual evidence Trump is racist but people use his behavior as evidence.
So you are correct. It breaks down here because some people understand numbers cant be put to everything. Some things are only evident through observation without any quantifiable evidence or proof.

so as long as there is no evidence she is anti police there is also no evidence Trump is racist.
Its funny how evidence or proof must be had for some opinions but not others.

only required when it fits the narrative.

so i could care less if there is or isnt provable evidence. Her tone and behavior has supplied enough evidence for those who look beyond graphs and analytics.
The only tone or behavior that I have seen from her have been in response to police abuses of power. So I understand why she feels that way. I am sure she is opposed to police abuse, I would hope we all are. But that's not the same as being opposed to police or "anti police".
 
Trump called the Unite the Right rally with swastikas, confederate flags and antisemitic chants very fine people. He has been repeatedly sued for racial discrimination. He called Mexicans rapists and referred to Haiti and countries in Africa as shitholes. He called COVID China virus and kung flu. How much evidence for racism do you need?

and im sure there are some very fine people in the police force
And im sure there are very fine people who vandalized downtown portland.
Making that claim doesn't prove one is racist.

Been sued or been convicted? I can sue you for being racist does that make you racist?


Meh. See there are opinions but if it fits a narrative its proof of racism.


Perfectly validating my point.

Thanks!
 
and im sure there are some very fine people in the police force
And im sure there are very fine people who vandalized downtown portland.
Making that claim doesn't prove one is racist.

Been sued or been convicted? I can sue you for being racist does that make you racist?


Meh. See there are opinions but if it fits a narrative its proof of racism.


Perfectly validating my point.

Thanks!
There are no very fine Nazis.
Anyone who says Nazis are very fine people is a racist.
He paid huge fines for race discrimination.
His comments on Mexicans, Haitians, Africans, Muslims are fact.

Bringing up police and Portland demonstrators is just your well known attempt to change the subject.
 
and im sure there are some very fine people in the police force
And im sure there are very fine people who vandalized downtown portland.
Making that claim doesn't prove one is racist.

Been sued or been convicted? I can sue you for being racist does that make you racist?


Meh. See there are opinions but if it fits a narrative its proof of racism.


Perfectly validating my point.

Thanks!
Define: Denialism
 
They've had over half a century.

drop in the bucket. Two generations. Give it 4-5.
I also pointed out the downfalls the nordic article pointed out. But that drew silence around here.

man this place is funny.
 
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