Al Harrington screw-ups

[SportsTicker]

Al Harrington is no superstar or all-star. He is a very good basketball player.

That said, I am trying to think of a good player whose trade value has been so diminished so quickly by the very people who should be trying to enhance it, starting with Harrington himself.

First, he goes public with his trade demand, then Nelson trashes him for going public. Mullin's situation is made less tenable when in the midst of trade discussions, the owner fires his top assistant. Nellie then puts Wright in the lineup and praises his effort while publicly criticizing Harrington's. To make matters worse, Harrington complains about his back, gets an MRI and gives the Warriors an opportunity to put him on the inactive list until he is traded.

Whatever value Harrington had is now considerably diminished and whatever Golden State gets for him will be less than what it could get for him last month.

 

[soul driver]

I don't want someone like that on our team, especially since we're building a "character" team.

 

[SportsTicker]

I don't want someone like that on our team, especially since we're building a "character" team.

What's his character flaw? He complains, but so do a lot of players. No drugs or violence against women that I can recall. No gun play. No contributions to the Republican Party or Nation Of Islam.

 

[soul driver]

heh. I suppose you're right. I mean, he'll get the playing time here, and I personally think he'll be a good fit in our system, but I'm just hoping he's ok in the locker room or behind the scenes.

So his value has dropped, supposing we are still talking with the Warriors or will again begin talks with them, what should we give? Sean, Ager, and Hassell?

 

[Run BJM]

What's his character flaw? He complains, but so do a lot of players. No drugs or violence against women that I can recall. No gun play. No contributions to the Republican Party or Nation Of Islam.

Hes actually a really classy guy. Everything I've ever heard about him is positive and he seems like a genuinely nice, down to earth guy. Coaches, other players, analysts, etc. all rave about how good of a guy he is in general. You also have to give him props for giving 100% effort on the court, lots of guys in the league don't.

That being said, he probably does think he's better than he really is. And hes NOT a "very good basketball player" on the NBA level. He sucks. Hes lost a lot of athleticism, has terrible hops and hes a bit slow to play SF. He can't score inside, his post game sucks, his handle isn't that good, hes a poor rebounder, hes not usually a good defender though he can do ok in certain matchups. Hes a good spot up shooter. Thats about all he does well. He can drive against bigger, slower players but hes a crappy finisher so its not productive anyway.

BTW he had been requesting a trade for over a year behind closed doors. The Warriors had plenty of time to move him but got no good offers- indicating that other GMs don't think hes very good either. I guess it looks bad whenever an athlete demands a trade but he did give it plenty of time behind closed doors and hes still handling it relatively professionally.

 

[BrooklynBound]

No contributions to the Republican Party

What?

 

[isrus]

I'd be all for getting Harrington if it's a good deal. But there would probably be many teams looking to get him.

 

[ghoti]

What?

It's a joke. Imagine being surrounded all day by the fine folks at NBC News.

 

[SportsTicker]

I'd be all for getting Harrington if it's a good deal. But there would probably be many teams looking to get him.

Here's the problem...the only reasonable way to get him is by trading Swift and someone else (Ager preferably) to the Warriors along with their 2011 draft pick. Harrington IS an upgrade over Swift but Harrington makes $10 million next season...unless he opts out and he is not that stupid. With Swift and Ager having expiring contracts, the Nets could very well be under the cap next season, affording them some additional rebuilding opportunities. And with the economy the way it is, and getting much worse, teams are going to be cutting like other employers. I can see the Nets trading for a third PG, someone like Crittenton (who has yet to play) or Sergio Rodriguez, but not taking on $10 million next season.

(One thing that could put the Nets over the cap is a very high draft choice...like top two or three).

 

[xflavioVC15x]

Al HArrington is a nnice guy but we dont need him on the nets. Its not like were making a run for the championship

 

[Joey FistPump]

I'd send Sean Williams, Trenton Hassell, Stromile Swift and the conditional pick we recieved from the Marcus Williams trade for Al Harrington.

 

[SportsTicker]

I'd send Sean Williams, Trenton Hassell, Stromile Swift and the conditional pick we recieved from the Marcus Williams trade for Al Harrington.

Under that scenario, the Nets would send $12.8 million in this year's contracts to the Warriors for Harrington's $9.2 million contract, which for starters doesn't work unless the Warriors add a player to the mix. Marcus Williams perhaps? The Warriors would also have to eat a contract since they are at a maximum of 15 (16 if you count Monta Ellis on the suspended list). Also, the additional $3.6 million the Warriors would accept in contracts would put them perilously close to the luxury tax threshold. If a team goes over the threshold, it has to pay the dollar for dollar tax AND give up the $3.6 million the NBA will distribute this year to teams that don't go over the threshold.

The Warriors don't want to get rid of him THAT bad. Does not compute.

 

[SUPERB]

I'd send Sean Williams, Trenton Hassell, Stromile Swift and the conditional pick we recieved from the Marcus Williams trade for Al Harrington.

Too much imo.

i would keep either stro or swift and send simmons instead.

 

[xflavioVC15x]

Too much imo.

i would keep either stro or swift and send simmons instead.

Isn't stro and swift the same player lol

 

[kdub]

Isn't stro and swift the same player lol

 

[isrus]

Isn't stro and swift the same player lol

 

[xflavioVC15x]

No seriously arent they

 

[#1_War_Poet_ForLife]

No seriously arent they

No.

 

[isrus]

No seriously arent they

I would have to say yes

 

[GMJ]

No seriously arent they

lmao no they're different dude.

 

[SUPERB]

meant swat. i was doing 2 many things while typing that.

 

[networks]

That was funny.

Anyway, I wouldnt mind getting him.

The only problem I see is that with Frank he will take more PT from the young guys. Frank is already limiting Anderson's PT.

 

[Dumpy]

That was funny.

Anyway, I wouldnt mind getting him.

The only problem I see is that with Frank he will take more PT from the young guys. Frank is already limiting Anderson's PT.

he'll get a chance to play. These things are in flux. It's a long season. If healthy, Najera and Yi are going to play. I guess it is possible that Najera could play some SF if Simmons and/or Jarvis Hayes get hurt.

 

[FOMW]

In principle, I don't have a problem with Frank's logic in sitting Ryan to give Najera a chance. As Frank said, the guy was signed for 4 years for a reason, and the bad luck of his training camp injury means that game time is the only way for him to really catch up. There's a goal there of getting all the players familiar with one another and with the system, and no one has more time to make up than Najera.

I do have a problem, however, with Frank continuing to let Ryan rot on the bench in the late 3rd and 4th quarter of the Indiana game, when the Nets were starved for SOMEONE playing the forward position to be able to make a shot or contribute on the offensive end in any way. That's where he has to say, "I've given Yi most of 3 quarters to do something, I've given good minutes to Najera, and he's not producing. So I've gotten the vet some needed minutes and I've gotten the young stud some deep minutes. Now it's time to try to win the game. Let me get Ryan in there, and see if he can provide the missing spark for a last run."

I just don't understand how you don't do that as a coach.

 

[Netted]

In principle, I don't have a problem with Frank's logic in sitting Ryan to give Najera a chance. As Frank said, the guy was signed for 4 years for a reason, and the bad luck of his training camp injury means that game time is the only way for him to really catch up. There's a goal there of getting all the players familiar with one another and with the system, and no one has more time to make up than Najera.

I do have a problem, however, with Frank continuing to let Ryan rot on the bench in the late 3rd and 4th quarter of the Indiana game, when the Nets were starved for SOMEONE playing the forward position to be able to make a shot or contribute on the offensive end in any way. That's where he has to say, "I've given Yi most of 3 quarters to do something, I've given good minutes to Najera, and he's not producing. So I've gotten the vet some needed minutes and I've gotten the young stud some deep minutes. Now it's time to try to win the game. Let me get Ryan in there, and see if he can provide the missing spark for a last run."

I just don't understand how you don't do that as a coach.

I agree... was surprised Anderson didn't get a run in the 4th. They desperately needed someone that could score and it was a prime opportunity to give him some court time.

 

[Claud]

What I want for Xmas is a new coach