Aldridge a me first player????

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toutlaw25

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I'm one of the biggest Aldridge fans on this board, but this guy is really starting to piss me off. I understand nate wants to try and get him going early, but what the fuck. The guy had Oden waving his arms wildly under the basket for an easy dunk and he fucking shoots the ball every time. Most the guys on the team look Oden off, but Aldridge is the worst. Oden needs to get in his face if he wants the ball, because Aldridge is all about getting his. He needs to figure out how to pass the ball to Greg.
 
Aldridge doesn't strike me as a me-first player at all. He's a good guy who wants to do what the coach says will help the team win. Do they need to get Oden more involved? Yes. But that's on everyone. Not just LaMarcus. When Oden came back from the injury, he would set picks, roll to the basket with his arm in the air, and got ignored by the guards every fucking time. Eventually, he gave up. I think they just need more practice together. They'll get three more full days off after the Phoenix game. Maybe they can work on getting our big guy the ball so that he can dominate Denver which, in my opinion, he should do.

All of that said, I can't wait for Greg's first start against Shaq on Thursday.
 
I think what I love more than anything else is that someone with the nickname toutlaw calls someone a me first player.

Aldridge was going well early, and he is anything but a me first guy. he is also our only low post threat and Nate has said in interviews that LaMarcus needs to be more agressing early to get the team going.
 
He is DEFINITELY not a me first player, but we shouldn't give this guy a hard time. He has the right to say w/e he wants.
 
C_note said:
Crying much for your first post here?
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geez... who pissed in your Cheerios?

Welcome to the board toutlaw25. You're right that LA and Greg need to develop better chemistry. Lucky for us that they both seem to be smart/team oriented players and time is really on their side.

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We really have it good...

I think people forget the days of a true me first player

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Lots of players have missed Oden open under the middle. They don't understand, that when he is standing next to somebody much shorter than him, he is open. Steve Blake is starting to get it, I saw him lob a few in over the last couple of games. Just throw it up, he will get it.

As for Aldridge, no he is not a me first guy. He is a guy that is depended on to produce for his team, and as such, is supposed to shoot. Sometimes not taking a shot when your are supposed to, can be worse than taking a bad shot.
 
C_note said:
Crying much for your first post here?
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Stop editing my posts Zohan.

LMA is the 2nd best player on our team. Oden is no where near LMA. If Oden wants teammates to pass him the ball, then he needs to CATCH IT and not flop around like a freaking butterfinger when we DO pass to him. I have seen 9 year olds with better ball control then Oden.

Don't get me wrong, I love Greg. But I would be hesitant to throw him the ball too when he treats it like a hot potato everytime someone throws him the ball.
 
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hasoos said:
Lots of players have missed Oden open under the middle. They don't understand, that when he is standing next to somebody much shorter than him, he is open. Steve Blake is starting to get it, I saw him lob a few in over the last couple of games. Just throw it up, he will get it.
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:check: Last night, (FINALLY!) he realized that if you give the ball to Oden while he's rolling to the hoop with a head of steam, the results can be impressive and almost unstoppable. Once.

Also, on Miller's second foul (I had to rewind this b/c I couldn't believe it), we'd just gotten an offensive rebound and kicked it to Blake. Oden was INSIDE THE RESTRICTED CIRCLE with Miller just trying to stay upright, and Blake's staring right at him, but doesn't throw him the ball (instead starting to call a play). Mercifully, they called Miller for a loose-ball foul, but it just cemented in my mind that no one on this team has an idea what an open big man in good offensive position is. :sigh:
 
You got issues if you think LA would deliberately NOT give G.O. the ball if open like you say he was. He is not selfish at all!
 
I think Aldridge is more unsure of his role than selfish. Sometimes he plays too passively, other times he seems to try and fix that by being aggressive and shooting a lot. He still hasn't found his comfort zone, so he has plenty of games where he seems invisible or shot-happy.
 
BrianFromWA said:
Also, on Miller's second foul (I had to rewind this b/c I couldn't believe it), we'd just gotten an offensive rebound and kicked it to Blake. Oden was INSIDE THE RESTRICTED CIRCLE with Miller just trying to stay upright, and Blake's staring right at him, but doesn't throw him the ball (instead starting to call a play). Mercifully, they called Miller for a loose-ball foul, but it just cemented in my mind that no one on this team has an idea what an open big man in good offensive position is. :sigh:
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I should record and watch a game just to count the number of times Oden flashes to the middle, with his hands up, ready to catch the ball within 6 feet of the basket... and doesn't get a pass.

Oden's ability to draw two quick fouls on Miller helped set the stage for the blowout last night. His presence down low often drew two guys to block him out. I think he's being drastically underused, and I look forward to the day when he starts getting the ball more when he establishes position... he's going to get to the line a lot and get a lot more dunks.

Ed O.
 
I think a lot of guys miss Oden at times, so Aldridge shouldn't be singled out. I kind of think one of the reasons guys are a little hesitant to throw it down to Oden is because he has a tendancy to make himself smaller, by allowing his defender to jump around him and tip the ball away. He needs to seal them off. He's also not the quickest and most adept at catching and making moves in traffic yet, which is why he gets stripped so often. So I can see why some might shy away from making those passes at times. He's improving, and as he does I think guys will continue to look to him more.

But if we want to point at anyone not getting Oden the ball in scoring positions, lets point at our guards, not our PF.
 
BatumKaboom said:
Stop editing my posts Zohan.
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stop insulting posters and you won't have issues with mods having to clean up your crap. The answer to this problem certainly isn't to lash out at the mod who is just doing their job.

STOMP
 
Rasheed wasn't enough of a me first player and now Aldridge is too much of a me first player.

Portland fans are the worst. Pathetic.
 
Drink Your Milkshake said:
Rasheed wasn't enough of a me first player and now Aldridge is too much of a me first player.

Portland fans are the worst. Pathetic.
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Yea it is also weird how fans want to see one player do better over another. I just want the Blazers to do well.
 
Drink Your Milkshake said:
Rasheed wasn't enough of a me first player and now Aldridge is too much of a me first player.

Portland fans are the worst. Pathetic.
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Gross generalizations are the worst. Pathetic.

You need to remove the "s" from fans. ONE poster called Aldridge selfish and then 11 responded refuting that claim. I'll take the passionate, intelligent Blazer fan base over any other in professional sports any day. Based on the large data set, there's bound to be a few who trend toward clueless, but the majority rise up and correct their erroneous ways.

BNM
 
Drink Your Milkshake said:
Rasheed wasn't enough of a me first player and now Aldridge is too much of a me first player.

Portland fans are the worst. Pathetic.
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no matter what sports team or what season, some fans are going to be upset about something. They'll find one or two tag team partners on their favorite chat site, form a complaining brotherhood on their issue and soon feel they're representing the masses. I'm recalling the much hyped (Canzano) Jail Blazer protest rally back in the day when literally 5 people showed up to protest and 20,000 (or so) bought tickets to the actual game.

So expect people to complain no matter what. No matter the heat of the bluster, don't assume that a few complainers are anywhere close to representing the pulse of the masses. After years of truly awful teams, heres guessing that a vast majority of Blazer fans here and overall are pretty happy with this young team going 16-10 with their tough schedule. I'd guess that if you were to start a rah rah go Blazers! thread, few would respond as there is little to discuss. Threads that express views outside the those felt by the masses are generally the ones with the most legs.

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toutlaw25 said:
I'm one of the biggest Aldridge fans on this board, but this guy is really starting to piss me off. I understand nate wants to try and get him going early, but what the fuck. The guy had Oden waving his arms wildly under the basket for an easy dunk and he fucking shoots the ball every time. Most the guys on the team look Oden off, but Aldridge is the worst. Oden needs to get in his face if he wants the ball, because Aldridge is all about getting his. He needs to figure out how to pass the ball to Greg.
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He has been looking like a mini ZBO lately...plus he takes way to long in the post sometimes, repost it dude!
 
I did not say ALL Portland fans are the worst, I just said Portland fans are the worst AND IT'S TRUE! Portland fans in general are the most ridiculous sports fans I've come across. Constantly overrating bad players and underrating good players. Thinking the average-at-best coaches the team has had are actually good. Rooting for pedophiles who call themselves the Kobe Stopper. I guess, in general Portland fans just don't have very much self respect. If you don't feel that applies to you than it doesn't, but it sure as hell applies to a lot of Portland fans.
 
Mediocre Man said:
I think what I love more than anything else is that someone with the nickname toutlaw calls someone a me first player.

Aldridge was going well early, and he is anything but a me first guy. he is also our only low post threat and Nate has said in interviews that LaMarcus needs to be more agressing early to get the team going.
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Agreed. I'd rather have LaMarcus continue to be aggressive and looking for shot than thinking all the time "should I pass it? Should I shoot it?" That's what got him into that slump awhile back.
LaMarcus is fine. Don't know why we're busting on the guy. We want LaMarcus shooting 15-20 times a game.
 
I'll make this super easy. Selfish players don't play both ends of the court.
 
1. If Aldridge were more me-first, we would've won the Magic game. We lost because we stopped going to him.

2. No one on the team knows how to throw the ball to Oden. Part of that is learning how to play with a big guy. Part of that is not having confidence in his ability to not turn the ball over. And unfortunately, part of that is probably just being selfish.
 
The offense runs through two players. Our best two offensive players. We need to get them going in every game becasue we depend on them in the 4th.
Keep shooting LMA! But work on the freaking hook shot, it needs to be money.
 
Another thing... if LA is establishing his J rather then dumping into the low post, doesn't that mean that Portland's dominant rebounder is probably the most likely guy on either squad to gather a miss? Aldridge establishing his J early pulls his man out of the paint leaving either Joel or Greg with only their Big to battle inside. Last night the Blazers pulled half as many offensive boards (19) as the Kings gathered overall (38).

I see LA's high post game providing spacing/balance to Portland's attack... me likey

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