Aldridge for Horford?

[Minstrel]

I've been thinking about what may happen to Roy. The nearest comparison I can make is he'll go from being a Wade to being a Rip Hamilton. That's still not bad.

I liked the comparison someone else made earlier, to Vince Carter. Roy wasn't as spectacular as a young VC, but he also relied on his ability to beat any defender and get to the hoop. Like Roy, Carter could always shoot...he just wasn't a shooting specialist. Carter has evolved his game into more of a jump shooter and still makes plays for others. If Roy can undergo a similar transformation (and he goes in with at least similar jump shooting proficiency and superior passing skills), he'll still be a major asset to the team.

 

[LittleAlex]

I think Steve Smith or Vince Carter would be a better comparison. Rip was pretty quick off those screens. Can Roy be that quick? Or, better yet, will he actually run off screens?

I was actually thinking of Bernard King except he was absurdly athletic before he blew out both knees and completely retooled his game.
B-Roy doesn't have nearly the same learning curve as King did.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I was actually thinking of Bernard King except he was absurdly athletic before he blew out both knees and completely retooled his game.
B-Roy doesn't have nearly the same learning curve as King did.

Someone else mention King in a different thread....was that you? I thought it was a pretty good comparison then too.

 

[LameR]

The grass is always greener on the other side...

 

[LittleAlex]

Someone else mention King in a different thread....was that you? I thought it was a pretty good comparison then too.

Yeah, a good comparison should be spread around.

 

[Natebishop3]

I liked the comparison someone else made earlier, to Vince Carter. Roy wasn't as spectacular as a young VC, but he also relied on his ability to beat any defender and get to the hoop. Like Roy, Carter could always shoot...he just wasn't a shooting specialist. Carter has evolved his game into more of a jump shooter and still makes plays for others. If Roy can undergo a similar transformation (and he goes in with at least similar jump shooting proficiency and superior passing skills), he'll still be a major asset to the team.

Oh sure, stiff me on the cred for comparing him to Carter

 

[MickZagger]

you do realize dude is still on his rookie deal right? He's from the same rookie class as Greg. The last time you made this same empty point this was pointed out to you by multiple posters... are you choosing to overlook this fact or did you just forget? Rest assured with the way the market for decent Bigs has gone since LA signed, when Al signs his next deal shortly it will exceed LA's.


while you're at it, why don't you tell us all which is your favorite college hoops team? We're all on the edge of our seats dying to know

STOMP

Wow, a little butt hurt because your boy LA keeps showing us how soft he is night in and night out?

November 10th, Horford signed a 5 year 60 million deal. Aldridge is at 5 years 65 million.

5 millions dollars in savings over the course of the contract, despite Horford clearly being a better player. I suggest next time doing your homework before looking like a flaming douche to all of us.

 

[MickZagger]

Stop.

I can't help it. My imagination to help this team get better is running wild.

 

[MickZagger]

Don't worry. If we traded for Horford, I'm sure his act would grow old to you in short order.

I doubt it. I've always been partial to PF's who play the position like it was meant to be played. Horford is shooting almost 65% from the field this year and is one of the best defensive big men in the game. The guy can be the anchor of a defense.

 

[STOMP]

Instead of trying to be condescending, why not look up any information from the last two weeks. Horford signed a 5 year, 60 million dollar extension. Rest assured. You're wrong. Next time, if you don't know something, don't make a huge attempt to make someone else feel stupid, because you just make yourself look bad.

When I'd informed Zags a month ago that his point about contracts didn't hold water in the thread I linked, I wasn't being condescending. Multiple posters then chimed in confirming the same thing. Then he comes back in this thread a month later claiming the same nonsense that everyone corrected him on and I'm not aloud to say something? And pot meet kettle on your condescending callout.

While I missed Al resigning (I was on vaca for a week in Oregon surrounding the UCLA game) at least I checked the S2 salary link before I posted this morning before work. Feel free to check the link yourself... it's at the top of this page and there is no mention of Al's new deal. Do you really think a guess at what a guy might resign for is something makes me look bad or is something I'd have an iota of pride about? The main point I was making is that dude is still on his rookie deal so it's apples to oranges to hold LA's 2nd deal up in comparison. Next year the two guys contracts will be more or less the same except that AH will be base year and basically untradable. Al's new deal isn't "a lot more reasonable than LMA's" which was pretty obviously the whole point of my response.

why not correct the OP who was wrong a month ago and then even more wrong today?

STOMP

 

[STOMP]

Wow, a little butt hurt because your boy LA keeps showing us how soft he is night in and night out?

November 10th, Horford signed a 5 year 60 million deal. Aldridge is at 5 years 65 million.

5 millions dollars in savings over the course of the contract, despite Horford clearly being a better player. I suggest next time doing your homework before looking like a flaming douche to all of us.

seriously dude, you insulting me is always good for a laugh. You didn't know about the Horford resigning either hypocrite, and now you're blasting me for it and thinking you have an insult opening

keep it up and please grace the board with yet another suspension breaking the only rule the board has

STOMP

 

[VanillaGorilla]

I declare this STOMP vs. MickZagger battle a draw. The war is not over.

 

[RR7]

When I'd informed Zags a month ago that his point about contracts didn't hold water in the thread I linked, I wasn't being condescending. Multiple posters then chimed in confirming the same thing. Then he comes back in this thread a month later claiming the same nonsense that everyone corrected him on and I'm not aloud to say something? And pot meet kettle on your condescending callout.

While I missed Al resigning (I was on vaca for a week in Oregon surrounding the UCLA game) at least I checked the S2 salary link before I posted this morning before work. Feel free to check the link yourself... it's at the top of this page and there is no mention of Al's new deal. Do you really think a guess at what a guy might resign for is something makes me look bad or is something I'd have an iota of pride about? The main point I was making is that dude is still on his rookie deal so it's apples to oranges to hold LA's 2nd deal up in comparison. Next year the two guys contracts will be more or less the same except that AH will be base year and basically untradable. Al's new deal isn't "a lot more reasonable than LMA's" which was pretty obviously the whole point of my response.

why not correct the OP who was wrong a month ago and then even more wrong today?

STOMP

What do I give a shit what he said a month ago? A month ago, he had not signed an extension. Now, he has. He came back a month later making a statement, and the situations had changed. So sure, you're aloud to say something. Say all you want. And others are allowed to point out that you're the one who is wrong. The whole point of your response was to call him out, and say we don't know what Al's new deal is yet. And we do. because he signed it. Two weeks ago. I don't need to look at the little link up wherever.

What is there to correct him on? That a month ago he made a comment that might have been inaccurate, but the same comment made today is in fact accurate? Sure, I'll hop into my internet time machine and scold him for his comments a month ago. But as of the post he made here, nothing to correct.

 

[MickZagger]

seriously dude, you insulting me is always good for a laugh. You didn't know about the Horford resigning either hypocrite, and now you're blasting me for it and thinking you have an insult opening

keep it up and please grace the board with yet another suspension breaking the only rule the board has

STOMP

I knew about the signing, I follow the NBA. You saying I didn't know about is your easiest way out from being completely wrong and looking like a fool? Uh okay. I've liked Horford for a while and knew they were in negotiations, I read realgm everyday and check the news. I saw that he had been signed last week. Before you become a clueless flamer you should get your information straight.

Are you delusional? When have I ever been suspended from here? Thought so. Quit always acting like a jilted lover towards me. It will be good for you.

 

[MickZagger]

When I'd informed Zags a month ago that his point about contracts didn't hold water in the thread I linked, I wasn't being condescending. Multiple posters then chimed in confirming the same thing. Then he comes back in this thread a month later claiming the same nonsense that everyone corrected him on and I'm not aloud to say something? And pot meet kettle on your condescending callout.

While I missed Al resigning (I was on vaca for a week in Oregon surrounding the UCLA game) at least I checked the S2 salary link before I posted this morning before work. Feel free to check the link yourself... it's at the top of this page and there is no mention of Al's new deal. Do you really think a guess at what a guy might resign for is something makes me look bad or is somethinpoint I was making is that dude is still on his rookie deal so it's apples to oranges to hold LA's 2nd deal up in comparison. Next year the two guys contracts will be more or less the same except that AH will be base year and basically untradable. Al's new deal isn't "a lot more reasonable than LMA's" which was pretty obviously the whole point of my response.
g I'd have an iota of pride about? The main
why not correct the OP who was wrong a month ago and then even more wrong today?

STOMP

Uh, you said earlier in this thread that when "Al signs his next deal shortly it will exceed LA's".

Backpedaling now? Face it dude, Aldridge is not worth his contract. The guy disappears and is soft, this isn't some sort of new reality either.

 

[STOMP]

What do I give a shit what he said a month ago? A month ago, he had not signed an extension. Now, he has. He came back a month later making a statement, and the situations had changed. So sure, you're aloud to say something. Say all you want. And others are allowed to point out that you're the one who is wrong. The whole point of your response was to call him out, and say we don't know what Al's new deal is yet. And we do. because he signed it. Two weeks ago. I don't need to look at the little link up wherever.

clicking a link at the top of this page or one I took the time to provide in my thread is too much for you but you'll post paragraphs blasting me for being wrong on a guess obviously you've a personal ax to grind with me that has nothing to do with this thread. If I hurt your little bitty feelings before, I'm sooo sorry

The OP also didn't know he had signed a new deal and made a new thread popping off on a tired rant he'd already been politely corrected on by me and others. I don't know about you, but when someone is wrong and continues to post the same thing again and again after polite corrections, it becomes annoying.

What is there to correct him on? That a month ago he made a comment that might have been inaccurate, but the same comment made today is in fact accurate? Sure, I'll hop into my internet time machine and scold him for his comments a month ago. But as of the post he made here, nothing to correct.

please explain how "His contract is also a lot more reasonable than LMA's" when it's 12M a year vs 13M a year. Then explain how it's even possible to trade for LA for Horford before 2012-13. To say that there is nothing to correct here shows that you lack a basic understanding of how NBA contracts work... time to do your homework!

STOMP

 

[MickZagger]

clicking a link at the top of this page or one I took the time to provide in my thread is too much for you but you'll post paragraphs blasting me for being wrong on a guess obviously you've a personal ax to grind with me that has nothing to do with this thread. If I hurt your little bitty feelings before, I'm sooo sorry

The OP also didn't know he had signed a new deal and made a new thread popping off on a tired rant he'd already been politely corrected on by me and others. I don't know about you, but when someone is wrong and continues to post the same thing again and again after polite corrections, it becomes annoying.


please explain how "His contract is also a lot more reasonable than LMA's" when it's 12M a year vs 13M a year. Then explain how it's even possible to trade for LA for Horford before 2012-13. To say that there is nothing to correct here shows that you lack a basic understanding of how NBA contracts work... time to do your homework!

STOMP

Whats with this whole, I didn't know he signed a new contract thing? I knew he signed a new contract. I read NBA news outlets, it wasn't some kind of secret signing with magic ink or anything. Your argument that I didn't know he signed a new contract is just sour grapes on your part for looking like a fool.

 

[STOMP]

Uh, you said earlier in this thread that when "Al signs his next deal shortly it will exceed LA's".

Backpedaling now?

backpedaling??? In the quote of mine that you posted I said I was wrong on my guess. Your stuff reads like angry blather

Face it dude, Aldridge is not worth his contract. The guy disappears and is soft, this isn't some sort of new reality either.

I was one of the few posters here who at the time LA resigned said it was too much $$$. It seems you're making strawman arguments trying to distract from your misstatements and displayed ignorance in this thread

you hate Aldridge... I'm sure most of the board is well aware of this by now. Can't wait for your next exciting thread about who you'd trade him for but can't because of the rules

STOMP

 

[STOMP]

Whats with this whole, I didn't know he signed a new contract thing? I knew he signed a new contract. I read NBA news outlets, it wasn't some kind of secret signing with magic ink or anything. Your argument that I didn't know he signed a new contract is just sour grapes on your part for looking like a fool.

Bullshit. It's obvious you didn't know he resigned because if you did you wouldn't say his contract is a lot more reasonable... because it's virtually identical. Blaming the Hawks lack of motivation as the reason this deal wouldn't happen also shows you were unaware or just ignorant. It isn't possible to trade LA for Horford because of base year contract stuff even if they wanted to... though judging from this and so much of your other threads thats probably something well over your head

STOMP

 

[MickZagger]

backpedaling??? In the quote of mine that you posted I said I was wrong on my guess. Your stuff reads like angry blather


I was one of the few posters here who at the time LA resigned said it was too much $$$. It seems you're making strawman arguments trying to distract from your misstatements and displayed ignorance in this thread

you hate Aldridge... I'm sure most of the board is well aware of this by now. Can't wait for your next exciting thread about who you'd trade him for but can't because of the rules

STOMP

Alright, you have crossed the line. Bash on anything, but once you bash me on my reading comprehension, that is enough. Its hard enough as a dyslexic person in this world, now I have geeks on message boards mocking my dyslexia. Thats low.

What are you talking about building a strawman because of misstatements? Where have I mis-stated anything in this thread? You called me out because, "Horford was on his rookie contract". Simply not true. Then you backpedal and say, "oh, well you didn't know that either". LoL the lamest comeback I've ever come across. Now you're saying, "oh, well I thought we overpaid for him at the time anyway".

Whatever dude. Just admit, you acted like a turd and can't handle that I posted a trade scenario for our "beloved" PF. I've made maybe 2 trade Aldridge threads and you act like its some kind of nervous twitch I have where I pop them out on a regular basis.

Go take a cold shower and think back on how much of an epic failure this thread has been for you.

 

[MickZagger]

Bullshit. It's obvious you didn't know he resigned because if you did you wouldn't say his contract is a lot more reasonable... because the new extension is virtually the same in dollars and years. It also isn't possible to trade LA for Horford because of base year contract stuff... though judging from this and so much of your other threads thats probably something well over your head

STOMP

reasonable, alot more reasonable. Now were arguing semantics?

You don't know what I know, and what I don't. You are coming off like a self-absorbed fool for trying to play the whole, "you didn't know he signed" game. Whatever floats your boat. You can't come to grips with the fact that sometimes your just flat out wrong.

 

[STOMP]

reasonable, alot more reasonable. Now were arguing semantics?

You don't know what I know, and what I don't. You are coming off like a self-absorbed fool for trying to play the whole, "you didn't know he signed" game. Whatever floats your boat. You can't come to grips with the fact that sometimes your just flat out wrong.

good grief

STOMP

 

[MickZagger]

good grief

STOMP

hyperbole doesn't exist in your black and white world?

 

[BGrantFan]

I love it when "experts" are proven wrong, and then they spend the next dozen posts not admitting their mistake and personally insulting the poster who made them look like a fool.

I notice that most of these "expert" posters like to 'tag' their own posts as well. Zagger was 100% correct in this thread about Horford's contract, and still some guy is trying to tell him he wasn't. It really does make me laugh. Watch out, Zags! Next you'll have some stupid PM post from the guy telling you how correct he really was, even in the glare of his ineptitude.

BGrantFan

 

[STOMP]

Alright, you have crossed the line. Bash on anything, but once you bash me on my reading comprehension, that is enough. Its hard enough as a dyslexic person in this world, now I have geeks on message boards mocking my dyslexia. Thats low.

again, what are you talking about? No where do I mention your reading comprehension and how would I have any idea that you're dyslexic? You're a trip dude

Go take a cold shower and think back on how much of an epic failure this thread has been for you.

STOMP

 

[STOMP]

hyperbole doesn't exist in your black and white world?

dude I've said it twice that I was wrong on a guess and you're still at it... whats wrong with you?

STOMP

 

[BGrantFan]

again, what are you talking about? No where do I mention your reading comprehension and how would I have any idea that you're dyslexic? You're a trip dude




STOMP

Hilarious! Seriously, this is some funny shit, considering this 'dude's' fail in this thread.

BGrantFan

 

[MickZagger]

again, what are you talking about? No where do I mention your reading comprehension and how would I have any idea that you're dyslexic? You're a trip dude


whatever dude...

STOMP

I'm hear to discuss sports with people. You're hear to call me out. It took one poster after your original post to notice that you were smarmy towards me about something that wasn't even true. Nothing I said throughout this thread wasn't factual.

 

[BGrantFan]

dude I've said it twice that I was wrong on a guess and you're still banging... whats wrong with you?

STOMP

I'm guessing it has something to do with you continually mocking him for actually knowing his shit, unlike you.

BGrantFan

 

[MickZagger]

dude I've said it twice that I was wrong on a guess and you're still at it... whats wrong with you?

STOMP

If you were wrong I can live with it and won't make anything out of it. But, you were wrong and you came off a pompous ass to me. I could careless about playing the "I told you so game". Thats not my M.O. around here, we've debated things without getting in a pissing match before, a lot of times I agree with you. It seems whenever I criticize Aldridge you take it as some kind of bash towards you or something and you need to "stick up for your guy".

Then later on you say now, "back to your regularly scheduled gloating of the Zags" or something of that nature. Which is untrue.

I have no beef with people around here, just stop acting like an ass.