Aldridge not worthy of an all-star appearance?

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http://wagesofwins.com/2012/01/15/lamarcus-aldridge-should-know-hell-be-an-all-star/

Interesting read. For the record, I think he's worthy, but there's some interesting analysis in this article and the comments.

So far this season, Aldridge’s number are nearly identical to his numbers last season. He is an above average player, but just not by much. In fact, he hovers right around average with respect to nearly every single stat, with one big exception. You guessed it, points! And so goes the story of Aldridge’s career: lots of scoring, pretty average everywhere else. Patrick Minton (the NBA Geek) has hypothesized that Aldridge is so well regarded not only because he scores so much, but also because it looks so pretty when he does it.

Well, Aldridge will probably be an all-star this year. But he shouldn’t be. Not that he is a bad player; on the contrary, he is above average. But he’s just not great. And there are other power forwards in the West that have been great this year. It’s nothing new though that playing well isn’t what sways the All-Star voters (the fans and the coaches). The strategy of scoring a lot of points on a good team is the best way to get an All-Star berth and that’s something Aldridge will know after this season.
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B-Roy said:
Patrick Minton (the NBA Geek) has hypothesized that Aldridge is so well regarded not only because he scores so much, but also because it looks so pretty when he does it.
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McMillan makes his players play defense consistently throughout the game. That gives Aldridge some respect to make up for his anemic rebounding. A second reason is that Aldridge maintains a stoic look worthy of Abraham Lincoln and plays with his mouth closed, gaining him respect from all who peruse pictures of players taking shots.
 
I'd be interested (but not enough to actually do some digging) to know how WP48 is calculated, as that seems to be about the only stat that matters in that list. As has been pointed out, what separates Aldridge from other players is his versatility.

Also: what the stats do NOT show, is whether or not a player commands a double-team. That is SO important to an offense, because it increases the % of everybody else (provided that player can pass, and Aldridge can). Ibaka? Don't be ridiculous. Millsap? I honestly don't know, but I'd bet that it's Al Jefferson if anyone in the Jazz frontcourt who is being double-teamed. And I'd like to see Millsap try to guard a guard on a switch.

In fact, the more I think about it, the more the writer appears to be an ignorant moron. Ah: he writes for an OKC blog called "Shut Up and Jam".
 
As of now la doesn't deserve all star game. Last year he was better then love and Blake. This year no.
 
Carlito said:
As of now la doesn't deserve all star game. Last year he was better then love and Blake. This year no.
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Blake has no post game and still gets killed on defense. Love has never been nor is he even an average defender. Aldridge is the focal point of our offense and gets doubled and tripeled teamed while still putting up numbers and is an above average defender.
If you would trade aldridge for love or blake then we would not get any better we would be a worse team.
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I really hope he doesn't get in. I think it will put a fire under him and he will have a much better second half of the season.
 
Rhal said:
Blake has no post game and still gets killed on defense. Love has never been nor is he even an average defender. Aldridge is the focal point of our offense and gets doubled and tripeled teamed while still putting up numbers and is an above average defender.
If you would trade aldridge for love or blake then we would not get any better we would be a worse team.
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Love has a DRtg of 97.
 
LA has all the tools but NOOOOOOOO Killer Instinct! You can't teach being a bad ass! He'll never have it, and that's why he doesn't deserve to be an allstar! The rest DO!

Love-Yup
Griffin-Yup
Garnett-mhmmm
Amare- Yep
Boozer- Sure
Bosh- Yep
Randolph- Oh this guy beats up his own teamates!


I'd say LA if very much like Gasol.... Gasol is an allstar because Kobe has enough killer instinct for both of them!
 
MickZagger said:
Are you disagreeing with a stat that is commonly used to judge a players defense because you don't agree with it?
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Great rebounders always have high DRtg just like great scorers always have high PER. He is a bad help and one on one defender, great box out guy and rebounder while being possibly the best passing big in the NBA.
 
DRtg has never been a good statistic to use to judge a player's defense
 
Well in the end if Aldridge gets in it will be because the coaches voted him in. So no matter what the stats say (and for the record I love stats) thats a good enough endorsement for me. Just like getting invited to try out for the Olympic squad says a lot. I understand its a different beast all together but the point is if coaches who are the most critical people out there feel he is good enough then that says to me he is one of the best at his position in the west and deserving of an all-star appearance.
 
He is an above average player, but just not by much.
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He has a PER of 22.5 and plays defense. That's 12th in the NBA for guys playing starter minutes (30+).

I guess Russell Westbrook and his 21.5 PER is a lesser player than LMA. I wonder if this OKC clod thinks Westbrook should be an All-Star.

Blake Griffin is 0.5 ahead of LMA in PER. Is he just barely above average?

Silly article.
 
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They look for defensive players for the all star team. /green font
 
MickZagger said:
Explain to me what rebounding has to do with DRtg?
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Offensive rebounds allowed lead to easy scores; good defensive rebounders prevent that, thereby improving their Drtg.

That's the best support I could come up with for that incredibly lame argument.

PapaG said:
Love has a career DRTG of 108.

12 game samples are fun, though.

Let's check back after 40 games before we all start slobbering over Love's defense.
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Should be noted that despite being at 108 & 109 the past two years, Love was tied for the second-best Drtg on his team each year. It's tough to have a good Drtg when your whole team is terrible defensively.
 
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Using that as a given, four power forwards out West stand out as better choices for the coaches than our friend LaMarcus: Kevin Love (did I even have to mention his name?), Pau Gasol, Paul Millsap, and Serge Ibaka
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This writer is on drugs, right?

Serge Ibaka??? LMAO! 6 ppg/6 rpg/24mpg/16.2 PER ... SERGE FUCKING IBAKA as an All-Star??

I think I'm going to have to troll this clod to point out his idiocy.
 
PapaG said:
NBA players this year with at least 22 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 2 apg, 1 spg

LeBron James
Blake Griffin
LMA

Yep, that LMA is barely above average.

http://www.basketball-reference.com...comp=gt&c6mult=1.0&c6stat=&order_by=pts_per_g
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Even crazier, there are only 8 players averaging 20pts/5rebs or better:

http://bkref.com/tiny/xvJYu

To say that LMA, who also gives you a steal and two assists, isn't All Star material this year, when 6 of the other 7 are complete locks for the ASG... that dude's a knucklehead.
 
I really don't understand the Kevin love bashing. His defense is much improved over last year.
 
Mediocre Man said:
I really don't understand the Kevin love bashing. His defense is much improved over last year.
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Small sample size? 13 games isn't easily called a fluke, but many realists didn't call LMA legit after 13 "LaMonster-era" games last year.

Love is probably the real deal, though. Dude's working hard out there, but he lacks the support around him to translate that effort into wins.
 
Mediocre Man said:
I really don't understand the Kevin love bashing. His defense is much improved over last year.
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Having the opinion that Kevin Love is mediocre, at best, defensively is now "bashing" him.

I just want to see him perform for more than 13 games before I say he's now a decent defender. LMA has abused him in the past. That should be a good barometer.
 
PapaG said:
Having the opinion that Kevin Love is mediocre, at best, defensively is now "bashing" him.

I just want to see him perform for more than 13 games before I say he's now a decent defender. LMA has abused him in the past. That should be a good barometer.
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Unlike most everyone on the board when it comes to me and Nate, I didn't single anyone out. Never said I was referring to you. If you read posts regarding Love, some bash him
 
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