Aldridge ranked #1 Power Forward

[jlprk]

Every time you read a quote from Aldridge, what is he talking about? His scoring. Never his rebounding.

Check it yourselves. I have been for a long time. That's why I say, our PF thinks of nothing except scoring points. Any team has about 3 positions who can score plus 2 positions who can rebound. The PF helps his team the most by focusing on rebounds more than points.

For example, Batum could earn his big money better if Stotts would allocate some of Aldridge's shots to Batum. The team would get the same points but more rebounds (with Aldridge's changed priorities).

 

[Pinwheel1]

Travis Outlaw is the ultimate example of how you don't want to bring along Leonard. With his athleticism and length, Trout could've been a very good help defender. But we tried to make him into Tracy McGrady 2.0 by telling him he could shoot whenever he wanted. He never learned to play a lick of defense. He's now a fringe player.

Good defenders usually have good basketball IQ. They tried to make Trout a better defender and they got more out of him then anyone else did. But as we know he had limitations.

 

[magnifier661]

Yeah they led their teams, but it was Stockton who hit the big shot to put them in the finals one year. He always came up big when they needed him.

As for Webber, that team was loaded with talent. He and Vlade (Who I see all the time at the grocery store) were great passers. It was Peja and Bibby who hit the big shots late in games. I think Sacramento is who we should copy.
But we would need a passing center who can play D (I would kill for Sabas)

Shaq was the leading scorer in L.A. when they won their titles, Kareem was theirs during their day, WIlt was too. They all had guards or wings that had the shot creating clutchness to win the ball games.

But you think that the Lakers of 2000+ with Shaq could have won without Shaq?

 

[magnifier661]

Every time you read a quote from Aldridge, what is he talking about? His scoring. Never his rebounding.

Check it yourselves. I have been for a long time. That's why I say, our PF thinks of nothing except scoring points. Any team has about 3 positions who can score plus 2 positions who can rebound. The PF helps his team the most by focusing on rebounds more than points.

For example, Batum could earn his big money better if Stotts would allocate some of Aldridge's shots to Batum. The team would get the same points but more rebounds (with Aldridge's changed priorities).

I just can't respect your takes. I mean you said no PF leading scorer team has ever won a playoff series; which wasn't the case. You flip flop until you drop!

 

[mook]

LMA is averaging 10.5 boards/game in March. It feels like he's playing closer to the rim and trying harder at rebounding right now. Maybe he's realized it's our only chance at making the playoffs and so he's going all-in.

LMA is the kind of guy who gives you 85% every night, and 100% most of the time the chips are down like they are now. (At least on offense and man defense. He's significantly less motivated on team defense/rebounding.)

It'd be nice if he were like Hickson or Matthews and his motor ran at 99% every possession. But he's just not wired that way. He isn't ever likely to change. Still a better option than almost any other PF in the game over 38 minutes/82 games.

 

[Natebishop3]

I don't know. I suspect the dye is cast and he is what he is.

But I look at what Aldridge has become and I totally get why they are bringing Leonard along slowly. On a different team I think Leonard would be in second or third place for ROY. Not that he's anything that special in most facets of basketball, but the guy can score if you give him the ball and tell him to shoot. If you watch him he doesn't just take no-brainer shots. He throws up and makes some shots that are a pretty advanced degree of difficulty for a rookie big. He has some nifty passes to boot. Not a ton of this stuff, but a shit-load more than you'd expect out of a Przybilla-type rookie big man. On a really bad team, you give him 14-18 shots and he'd put up 17 or 18 points. Easily. He's got really nice range, he's so big that he's hard to block, and he is a good finisher around the rim.

Of course your team would lose most nights because Leonard sucks at defense and is just now learning how to do little things in an offense that help teams succeed.

I think the team is trying to inculcate in him defense as much as possible now, because once the genie of his offense gets out of the bottle it's not going back in again.

Travis Outlaw is the ultimate example of how you don't want to bring along Leonard. With his athleticism and length, Trout could've been a very good help defender. But we tried to make him into Tracy McGrady 2.0 by telling him he could shoot whenever he wanted. He never learned to play a lick of defense. He's now a fringe player.

Good defenders usually have good basketball IQ. They tried to make Trout a better defender and they got more out of him then anyone else did. But as we know he had limitations.

I agree with Pinwheel on this. I knew Trout. I knew him pretty well. His limitations were his understanding of the game of basketball. I think they gave him a green light and let him play outside the system because that's the best he could do.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Shaq was the leading scorer in L.A. when they won their titles, Kareem was theirs during their day, WIlt was too. They all had guards or wings that had the shot creating clutchness to win the ball games.

But you think that the Lakers of 2000+ with Shaq could have won without Shaq?

Nope. We are in agreement. You have to have both. I think it was Pat Riley who said it takes 12 players to win a championship.

 

[jlprk]

I just can't respect your takes. I mean you said no PF leading scorer team has ever won a playoff series; which wasn't the case. You flip flop until you drop!

Nonsense. Link?

Many times, posters inform you that you get details wrong like that. You just skip forward on your merry way. You lose their respect, and now you use that very word.

 

[mook]

I agree with Pinwheel on this. I knew Trout. I knew him pretty well. His limitations were his understanding of the game of basketball. I think they gave him a green light and let him play outside the system because that's the best he could do.

Yeah, it's definitely true he wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed. Still, I think they could have tried harder at instilling some fundamentals in him. At the time, though, we had a really terrible team and were casting about in all directions for a guy who could score.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

That is an interesting way of looking at it. I didn't think of it like that. I wonder if Aldridge will get to a point in his career where he feels comfortable going back to being a fantastic defender.

Alternatively, maybe it's easier to be a fantastic defender in college than in the pros, and this is as fantastic as he ever was.

 

[Hobbesarable]

Aldridge has owned Duncan for six years and counting.

Huh? Prove it.

 

[julius]

Huh? Prove it.

ooh don't ask him to prove something, just smile and wave.

 

[Hobbesarable]

ooh don't ask him to prove something, just smile and wave.

LMAO! Perhaps I should abide your advice.

 

[PapaG]

Huh? Prove it.

I'm not the one who posted the "ownage", but LMA's stats against Duncan are very impressive the last 4 years, especially.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=aldrila01&p2=duncati01

 

[Hobbesarable]

I'm not the one who posted the "ownage", but LMA's stats against Duncan are very impressive the last 4 years, especially.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=aldrila01&p2=duncati01

I'll agree with impressive. However, "ownage" is a far cry from that.

 

[mook]

Looking at that link I'd say he's easily owned Duncan since the beginning of 2010.

 

[Hobbesarable]

Looking at that link I'd say he's easily owned Duncan since the beginning of 2010.

Two games in that span is ownage.

Yet, their teams are 9-9 during that 18 game sample. Call me crazy, but I'd rather have a win than ownage in stats.

 

[PapaG]

Two games in that span is ownage.

Yet, their teams are 9-9 during that 18 game sample. Call me crazy, but I'd rather have a win than ownage in stats.

How many NBA teams are 9-9 against the Spurs over the past 6 seasons when Duncan plays in the game? I went to a Blazers/Spurs game last season (I think it was last season) where Duncan, Ginobli, and Parker didn't play. The Blazers won that game handily.

 

[magnifier661]

Nonsense. Link?

Many times, posters inform you that you get details wrong like that. You just skip forward on your merry way. You lose their respect, and now you use that very word.

Link? If you don't know that Karl Malone was the leading scorer for the jazz when they never missed the playoffs and reached the finals twice.

And if you need a link to prove webber was the leading scorer the as town years; then you completely lost your mind.

 

[Hobbesarable]

How many NBA teams are 9-9 against the Spurs over the past 6 seasons when Duncan plays in the game?

I don't know. Do you?

I went to a Blazers/Spurs game last season (I think it was last season) where Duncan, Ginobli, and Parker didn't play. The Blazers won that game handily.

I would hope so!

 

[PapaG]

Link? If you don't know that Karl Malone was the leading scorer for the jazz when they never missed the playoffs and reached the finals twice.

And if you need a link to prove webber was the leading scorer the as town years; then you completely lost your mind.

jlprk is, and always has been, a gimmick account. Kind of the court jester, if you can accept it. Don't take him seriously at all.

 

[PapaG]

I don't know. Do you?

I asked you the question.

 

[PapaG]

*Originally Posted by PapaG *
I went to a Blazers/Spurs game last season (I think it was last season) where Duncan, Ginobli, and Parker didn't play. The Blazers won that game handily.

I would hope so!

The Heat almost lost to the Spurs without those three this year. Do you even watch the NBA, or do you just hobble over here from Olive once in a while to get your ass handed you with stats?

 

[jlprk]

I just can't respect your takes. I mean you said no PF leading scorer team has ever won a playoff series; which wasn't the case. You flip flop until you drop!

Nonsense. Link?

Many times, posters inform you that you get details wrong like that. You just skip forward on your merry way. You lose their respect, and now you use that very word.

Link? If you don't know that Karl Malone was the leading scorer for the jazz when they never missed the playoffs and reached the finals twice.

And if you need a link to prove webber was the leading scorer the as town years; then you completely lost your mind.

I asked for a link to where I said that no playoff series winner ever had a PF as its leading scorer. Because I didn't!

 

[magnifier661]

That the dumbest position to make your leading scorer is PF. The PF and C exist to rebound and defend, the wings to score, and the PG to facilitate. A PF who thinks of nothing but scoring sinks the ship.

Pretty easy find jlprk. What happens when a ship sinks buddy? They win playoff series?

 

[Hobbesarable]

I asked you the question.

Yes, and I said, "I don't know."

I then asked you in kind, "Do you?" It's ok to say you don't know.

 

[Hobbesarable]

The Heat almost lost to the Spurs without those three this year. Do you even watch the NBA, or do you just hobble over here from Olive once in a while to get your ass handed you with stats?

Are you upset about something?

 

[PapaG]

Yes, and I said, "I don't know."

I then asked you in kind, "Do you?" It's ok to say you don't know.

It's also OK to say "I won't pay you to research for me". You asked the question, the answers are out there for you, rookie.

 

[PapaG]

Are you upset about something?

Just that Olive trolling is becoming accepted here. Up your game.

 

[jlprk]

Pretty easy find jlprk. What happens when a ship sinks buddy? They win playoff series?

That's all you got? Like I said, you're slipping, better hold back on not respecting me when you make so many mistakes!

Are you upset about something?

PapaG thinks he's toking in Pioneer Square as he posts. Just put up with this stoner wannabe.