All-Star Game Purists get their wish...Yi out for 4 Wks

[Mr. J]

You were the one that said benching bad underperforming players to give your team a chance to win, or was that not you? You're a hypocrite, giving Nate a free pass. Also, I used your reference on Galo being soft, but you also give him a free pass too. So, if you wear a Knicks uniform, everything is a free pass.

You're losing credibility, that's all I have to say. I can tolerate your view if you share that view on all the players, but you're just jabbing lemming style. That's lame, I get plenty of that from the parrots at Realgm.

How about posting a Knicks game threads consistently on your forum? Also, Lopez and boone are not currently playing as Center/PF. They don't share minutes with PFs, not unless it's due to some uncontrollable foul trouble.

You just don’t get it. During Nate’s first 20 games he averaged 15+ points shooting 48% from the field and over 40% from downtown. In fact, in December he averaged 20 PPG. Clearly, Nate’s history shows he is capable of having a consistent string of good games. In addition, Nate has been good for most of the season. Yi, however, has been terrible for most of the season and rarely has multiple games where he is consistently playing solid basketball. Further, in November, Yi averaged 11/6 shooting a woeful 39%; in December he averaged 8/6, shooting an even worse 37%. In January Yi has been solid averaging 16/7 on 46% shooting, but let’s not forget he only played 5 games this month (3 against sub .500 teams). Nate is on a brief cold streak. Yi has been on a season-long cold streak. Big difference.

I never said Gallo is getting a free pass. You said Yi “pulled a Gallo”, which is just stupid since every player gets injured in the league, and Gallo is not the first player to ever get injured. I understand it was a “shot” back at me; it just didn’t make sense.

The Knicks forum isn't "my" forum, it's everyone's.

 

[thedude9990]

lol. Nate has been putting up solid numbers the majoirty of the year, while Yi put up solid numbers in like 3 games. And back to the whole Brook is just a post player and can't step out, last time i checked the majority of PF's in this league can't step out beyond the 3 point line and shoot it. Brook has some offensive game where he can play the four, hes not like Boone or Ben Wallace who can only hit a shot if its a dunk

 

[BrooklynBound]

I never said Lopez plays PF. I simply said Yi being out means there's more minutes available in the froncourt. In those available minutes, Lopez can get more time.

I also said because Lopez isn't a PF doesn't mean he matches up with other PFs on various occasions during the game. Similarly, VC is a SG but there are several times during a game when he matches up against the oppositions SF. I think you understand this, though Malorkayel fails to realize this.

Sorry, but you're wrong. There's no more minutes for Lopez. He and Boone are the ONLY centers on the roster. Williams played a little center but obviously he's not here.

And Boone isn't a PF. He just can't shoot well enough for the job. He has never played PF with Lopez at center. Anderson, Najera, Swift and Hayes will get extra minutes.

So where are these extra minutes for Lopez coming from?

 

[PhilNYC]

in November, Yi averaged 11/6 shooting a woeful 39%; in December he averaged 8/6, shooting an even worse 37%. In January Yi has been solid averaging 16/7 on 46% shooting, but let’s not forget he only played 5 games this month (3 against sub .500 teams). Nate is on a brief cold streak. Yi has been on a season-long cold streak. Big difference.

Btw - you do understand that most 7fters have a high shooting percentage because they usually play in the post and get high-percentage shot opportunities, right? The Nets use Yi primarily at the perimeter, so most of his shots are long jumpers or 3pt attempts. The fact that his FG% and 3pt% are nearly identical gives you a pretty clear indication that most of his attempts come from long range. In his last three games before his injury, his shooting percentage went up because the Nets were using him in the post more...

 

[Mr. J]

Sorry, but you're wrong. There's no more minutes for Lopez. He and Boone are the ONLY centers on the roster. Williams played a little center but obviously he's not here.

And Boone isn't a PF. He just can't shoot well enough for the job. He has never played PF with Lopez at center. Anderson, Najera, Swift and Hayes will get extra minutes.

So where are these extra minutes for Lopez coming from?

I was thinking of something like kobimel said. Considering the circumstances, Frank might have no choices but to do that. I don't know when Swift is coming back and Najera and Hayes are somewhat of a liability being undersized for PF.

Regardless, if he isn't getting more minutes, Brook should have more of an impact with Yi gone, and the Nets should be better. That was my main point.

 

[Mr. J]

Btw - you do understand that most 7fters have a high shooting percentage because they usually play in the post and get high-percentage shot opportunities, right? The Nets use Yi primarily at the perimeter, so most of his shots are long jumpers or 3pt attempts. The fact that his FG% and 3pt% are nearly identical gives you a pretty clear indication that most of his attempts come from long range. In his last three games before his injury, his shooting percentage went up because the Nets were using him in the post more...

This doesn't make Yi any less of a liability. Yi averages only one made three-pointer per game. The fact that his 3-point percentage has been higher than his FG% for most of the season indicates that he is shooting a worse percentage from a closer distance. In fact, he shoots .397 from close range. So, whether Yi goes into the post or not seems to be irrelevant, as he is statistically lackluster from there, as well. And consistent long two-pointers aren't really a good thing either. They are made at around the same percentage as a 3-pointer, but count for less. Further, Yi's TS% is also unspectacular.

 

[BrooklynBound]

I was thinking of something like kobimel said. Considering the circumstances, Frank might have no choices but to do that. I don't know when Swift is coming back and Najera and Hayes are somewhat of a liability being undersized for PF.

Regardless, if he isn't getting more minutes, Brook should have more of an impact with Yi gone, and the Nets should be better. That was my main point.

Kobimel said Boone would play more with Lopez. However, Boone has never been on the court with Lopez at the same time. Frank likes to go small, anyway.

 

[Malorkayel]

This doesn't make Yi any less of a liability. Yi averages only one made three-pointer per game. The fact that his 3-point percentage has been higher than his FG% for most of the season indicates that he is shooting a worse percentage from a closer distance. In fact, he shoots .397 from close range. So, whether Yi goes into the post or not seems to be irrelevant, as he is statistically lackluster from there, as well. And consistent long two-pointers aren't really a good thing either. They are made at around the same percentage as a 3-pointer, but count for less. Further, Yi's TS% is also unspectacular.

You need to stop comparing Yi to Nate. I notice Nate had another great game tonight... but oh wait, he gets another free pass because he's Nate.

 

[golancer]

the reality tells us Yi is useless. without him, Nets is a awesome team, Nets won all recently three games without Yi and we can totally tell Nets will get in play off if Yi wont play rest of games at this season.

 

[AhLian]

the reality tells us Yi is useless. without him, Nets is a awesome team, Nets won all recently three games without Yi and we can totally tell Nets will get in play off if Yi wont play rest of games at this season.

I most certainly hope that is sarcasm.

 

[Mr. J]

You need to stop comparing Yi to Nate. I notice Nate had another great game tonight... but oh wait, he gets another free pass because he's Nate.

For what it's worth, Nate is averaging 20 PPG the past 4 games and shooting over 50% from the field.

Brook Lopez is also averaging 35 MPG since Yi went down - 5 more minutes than his average.

 

[Malorkayel]

For what it's worth, Nate is averaging 20 PPG the past 4 games and shooting over 50% from the field.

Brook Lopez is also averaging 35 MPG since Yi went down - 5 more minutes than his average.

So, more minutes for Brooks = bad record for the Nets? They won 1 game after Yi got injured.

Back to Nate, that guy is like a mascot. My point was Nate is up and down, just like Yi is up and down. However, because Nate doubles as the Knicks mascot, he get a free pass to every bad game. His stats for the month of Jan is terrible.

 

[Mr. J]

So, more minutes for Brooks = bad record for the Nets? They won 1 game after Yi got injured.

Back to Nate, that guy is like a mascot. My point was Nate is up and down, just like Yi is up and down. However, because Nate doubles as the Knicks mascot, he get a free pass to every bad game. His stats for the month of Jan is terrible.

The Nets would likely have a similar record even if Yi never got injured.

Every player in the league has up and down games. The difference is Nate has more good games than bad games and Yi has more bad games than good games. You mention his January stats as if they sum up the whole season, neglecting his averages of 15 and 20 PPG in the previous month. Nate's cold streak was in January, hence his stats are going to look unattractive. He is the main reason why the Knicks have been playing well of late. It's no surprise why he's a serious candidate for Sixth Man of the Year.

 

[rox fa sho]

the nets could have a winning record if they ddint lose yi. yi is having a good year for his 2nd season. every part of his game is better. with brook lopez able to score inside and man the paint, yi can help brook by spreading the defense to the 3pt line. brook's offense is limited but for a rookie hes doing really good. next season the both of them could potentially be 15pt scorers with good defense.

 

[Mr. J]

Nate Robinson is definitely looking like a bust these days, Malorkayel.