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wizenheimer said:
not meaning to make excuses, but in the last 3 months Miller has had a groin injury and Mono. Having had both of those things I know it can take a long time to get over either. He may be over them, but it's at least worth considering

I've recently watched a lot of video on Miller. Sometimes I see the concerns about his game you're criticizing him for. Other times, maybe most of the time, I don't see those flaws.

Scoot may be the BPA. But if there is a gap between Scoot and Miller it's a small gap, IMO. And after watching Denver win the championship, and watching the NBA for decades, I think 6'3 has to have a big-gap advantage rather than a small-gap advantage to beat 6'9.
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I don't disagree at all. My goal isn't to make Miller seem like a bad pick.

Scoot, Miller, and Amen (and probably Ausar) are all on the same tier - great all around prospects with All-star talent but with one major weakness in their games.

It's just a matter of....if they're all on the same tier, which one will help Portland best contend in the future?

This draft is for the #2 option on a future Blazers playoff team. Whoever Portland takes in this draft is going to determine if Portland has a championship window and how long it lasts. Again, we both agree that height matters here and since Portland has a good third option in Simons and since Dame should still be good for another four years, that means a lengthy and versatile wing/forward is the key.

I personally think it's Amen Thompson but understand why people may think it's Brandon Miller.
 
MrDraftGuy said:
I don't disagree at all. My goal isn't to make Miller seem like a bad pick.

Scoot, Miller, and Amen (and probably Ausar) are all on the same tier - great all around prospects with All-star talent but with one major weakness in their games.

It's just a matter of....if they're all on the same tier, which one will help Portland best contend in the future?

This draft is for the #2 option on a future Blazers playoff team. Whoever Portland takes in this draft is going to determine if Portland has a championship window and how long it lasts. Again, we both agree that height matters here and since Portland has a good third option in Simons and since Dame should still be good for another four years, that means a lengthy and versatile wing/forward is the key.

I personally think it's Amen Thompson but understand why people may think it's Brandon Miller.
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If Miller is left at 3, we take him over Amenu.
 
MrDraftGuy said:
I don't disagree at all. My goal isn't to make Miller seem like a bad pick.

Scoot, Miller, and Amen (and probably Ausar) are all on the same tier - great all around prospects with All-star talent but with one major weakness in their games.

It's just a matter of....if they're all on the same tier, which one will help Portland best contend in the future?

This draft is for the #2 option on a future Blazers playoff team. Whoever Portland takes in this draft is going to determine if Portland has a championship window and how long it lasts. Again, we both agree that height matters here and since Portland has a good third option in Simons and since Dame should still be good for another four years, that means a lengthy and versatile wing/forward is the key.

I personally think it's Amen Thompson but understand why people may think it's Brandon Miller.
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I know Portland has to look to the future past the four years Dame should be good, but my thinking is that the four years of Dame with Amen in this scenario severely limits Amen's strengths. So much so that it constricts Amen because dame is soooo ball dominant and Amen is best with the ball in his hands. Would Amen's game evolve playing with Dame for the four years of prime Dame? I'm thinking no, but am open to alternative views. If Amen was a great shooter, then yes, he would thrive with four years of prime Dame. But Amen is not a great shooter at this time. Would he learn from Dame? Maybe, but is Dame interested in tutoring another young'in when he said he doesn't want to go that direction. This is what has always brought me to Miller. He fits from day one. He is a 6'9 unicorn like Durant. Shooters shoot. I'm sure Dame could tutor Miller better. As in, ball fakes and driving to the hoop better, more often if the defender closes out. That is prime Dame putting a defender in the blender. Thoughts?
 
blazerkor said:
I might do what your saying I do but that's a little bit of...
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it's been at least a year since I responded to anything you've written unless it's to you quoting me. So no, not even close.

STOMP
 
STOMP said:
it's been at least a year since I responded to anything you've written unless it's to you quoting me. So no, not even close

STOMP
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I don't know man, you've got a lot of people on here that you kinda feud with. Just sayin. I'm not mad at you though, we all do our thing.

And I already apologized to you for atting you when it wasn't about you.
 
TATUM & MILLER COLLEGE STATS

Tatum - 6'8"
Miller - 6'9"

Pts / Tatum - 16.8
Miller - 18.8

FG% / T - 45%
M - 43%

3P% / T - 34%
M - 38%

TRB's / T - 7.3
M - 7.2

Assist / T - 2.1
M - 2.1

Stl / T - 1.3
M - 0.9

BLK / T - 1.1
M - 0.9
 
Hoopguru said:
TATUM & MILLER COLLEGE STATS

Tatum - 6'8"
Miller - 6'9"

Pts / Tatum - 16.8
Miller - 18.8

FG% / T - 45%
M - 43%

3P% / T - 34%
M - 38%

TRB's / T - 7.3
M - 7.2

Assist / T - 2.1
M - 2.1

Stl / T - 1.3
M - 0.9

BLK / T - 1.1
M - 0.9
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I posted this earlier in this thread, but here it is again -

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I think Brandon Miller has similarities to both of these guys. And he favors on the high side of many of the advanced stats - Better PER, better ORating, better DRating.

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I'm hoping Charlotte drafts Scoot and the Blazers get and keep Miller. I think Sharpe and Miller together will make for a fun team to watch for many years to come.
 

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42N8Bounce said:
I posted this earlier in this thread, but here it is again -

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I think Brandon Miller has similarities to both of these guys. And he favors on the high side of many of the advanced stats - Better PER, better ORating, better DRating.

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I'm hoping Charlotte drafts Scoot and the Blazers get and keep Miller. I think Sharpe and Miller together will make for a fun team to watch for many years to come.
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Sweet, I missed it. Thanks
Man we need a potent forward thats tall and can shoot.
 
BIG Q said:
I swear, if Larry Bird was 19 y/o and in this draft he would not be drafted! Magic too, slow, could not jump.
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Larry Bird averaged 31 points, 21 rebounds, and 4 assists his senior year in high school and received a basketball scholarship to play at Indiana University under Bobby Knight.

Ervin Johnson was first dubbed "Magic" as a 15-year-old sophomore playing for Everett High School, when he recorded a triple-double of 36 points, 18 rebounds, and 16 assists.
In his final high school season, Johnson led Everett High to a 27–1 win–loss record while averaging 28.8 points and 16.8 rebounds per game, and took his team to an overtime victory in the state championship game.
Although Johnson was recruited by several top-ranked colleges such as Indiana and UCLA, he ultimately decided to attend Michigan State when coach Jud Heathcote told him he could play the point guard position.
 
blazerfan11 said:
Larry Bird averaged 31 points, 21 rebounds, and 4 assists his senior year in high school and received a basketball scholarship to play at Indiana University under Bobby Knight.

Ervin Johnson was first dubbed "Magic" as a 15-year-old sophomore playing for Everett High School, when he recorded a triple-double of 36 points, 18 rebounds, and 16 assists.
In his final high school season, Johnson led Everett High to a 27–1 win–loss record while averaging 28.8 points and 16.8 rebounds per game, and took his team to an overtime victory in the state championship game.
Although Johnson was recruited by several top-ranked colleges such as Indiana and UCLA, he ultimately decided to attend Michigan State when coach Jud Heathcote told him he could play the point guard position.
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Bird may have had an offer from Indiana, but he played at Indiana State
 
Bird actually attended IU, but hated it. Caught a ride home thinking he was done. Rest is history.
 
How many people followed Josh Jackson in college? Miller seems like a away better shooter but there are similarities there.
 
illmatic99 said:
I think we're taking Miller.
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Wouldn't be surprised. Don't see how CHA passes up on Scoot, but then, #OwnerJordan.

Then again, Miller fits what this team needs so much better than Scoot. Length, defense, shooting....it would seem like a perfect pick for the Blazers. And so far, the trade offers aren't blowing Mrs HCP's skirt up.
 
TBpup said:
Wouldn't be surprised. Don't see how CHA passes up on Scoot, but then, #OwnerJordan.

Then again, Miller fits what this team needs so much better than Scoot. Length, defense, shooting....it would seem like a perfect pick for the Blazers. And so far, the trade offers aren't blowing Mrs HCP's skirt up.
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Jordan is selling his ownership.

The drama for this draft is killing me, lol.
 
TBpup said:
Wouldn't be surprised. Don't see how CHA passes up on Scoot, but then, #OwnerJordan.

Then again, Miller fits what this team needs so much better than Scoot. Length, defense, shooting....it would seem like a perfect pick for the Blazers. And so far, the trade offers aren't blowing Mrs HCP's skirt up.
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Fun fact: If Ant is traded and we drafted and kept Miller, he would immediately become our 2nd best FT shooter (85.9%)
 
Wizard Mentor said:
Fun fact: If Ant is traded and we drafted and kept Miller, he would immediately become our 2nd best FT shooter (85.9%)
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FT rate (fta/fga): Ant .171....Miller .329

FTA/100-possessions: Ant 4.0....Miller 7.8

I actually believe drawing fouls and getting to the line is an extremely important skill for NBA players. And from what I've seen, if players arrive in the NBA without that skill, they rarely develop it. That doesn't necessarily mean Miller has that skill. Drawing shooting fouls against colleg players isn't the same as against NBA players. But at least Miller's numbers are a little encouraging
 
I am going to say this about Miller and I think this is why there is a legit debate between Scoot or him cause right now Scoot has a brighter upside BUT I think Miller does have a chance to be a stud like a Durant / George lite type player someone who can take over a game but I also think Miller has the biggest bust factor compared to Scoot too. I do not envy the Hornets front office cause this decision will shape that team's future for the next 5 years easy and the wrong choice will set them back they are kind of in the same situation as the Blazers only without the whole Dame thing .
 
Brandon Miller shots nearly identically to Bones Hyland

 
BIG Q said:
I swear, if Larry Bird was 19 y/o and in this draft he would not be drafted! Magic too, slow, could not jump.
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Not really, no.

He did exist as a prospect a few years ago and his name was Luka Doncic. I was pretty big on him, myself, and literally compared taking Bagley over him as this generation's Thompson over Bird (good job, Blazers).

Miller is not Bird. If Larry Bird existed today and played in college, his numbers would likely resemble Kevin Durant's college numbers. In fact, Luka already achieved something similar, in terms of absurd numbers. For reference, in the European leagues, Luka put up a higher PIR (Euro version of PER) than Jokic, Porzingis, Dragic, Domantas. He was surefire from Day 1.

Essentially, I would recognize Larry Bird, right away.
 
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