All things Jalen Duren

[Duckhook]

Duren at 19 years old stands to grow another inch or two before he comes into his own (crazy to think). I imagine his quick feet and mobility won't diminish too much as he's been growing into his body. He has all the tools you can't teach IMO. If he's available at #7 I'd take him. I'm all in on Duren.

 

[TBpup]

Duren at 19 years old stands to grow another inch or two before he comes into his own (crazy to think). I imagine his quick feet and mobility won't diminish too much as he's been growing into his body. He has all the tools you can't teach IMO. If he's available at #7 I'd take him. I'm all in on Duren.

If he was able to play PF....

 

[Mediocre Man]

Duren at 19 years old stands to grow another inch or two before he comes into his own (crazy to think). I imagine his quick feet and mobility won't diminish too much as he's been growing into his body. He has all the tools you can't teach IMO. If he's available at #7 I'd take him. I'm all in on Duren.

Only 18. Even better

 

[Mediocre Man]

If he was able to play PF....

No reason he can’t. He has the foot speed. Nurk could easily pop up and open that key with just Duren down there

 

[Eastoff]

7 foot centers these days are growing up shooting 3’s instead of working on their footwork.

Shooting the long ball is all the rage these days with kids. Even the ones that should be dominating down low.

Banging down low hurts and wears down your body more than a 3

 

[tykendo]

Banging down low hurts and wears down your body more than a 3

I actually thinking some "banging down low" is pretty advantageous to our mental well being. Hurts so good.

 

[blazerfan11]

Duren at 19 years old stands to grow another inch or two before he comes into his own (crazy to think). I imagine his quick feet and mobility won't diminish too much as he's been growing into his body. He has all the tools you can't teach IMO. If he's available at #7 I'd take him. I'm all in on Duren.

Duren won't be 19 years old until November 18.

 

[blazerkor]

Duren won't be 19 years old until November 18.

I would absolutely love it if we traded back and he was available at 11. The trade would be Bledsoe, 7 and 36 for 11, Randle and the Mavs first rounder next year. We could then give the Pistons the Mavs pick and Bucks pick for Grant who would fit into the TPE. We'd have to figure out if we wanted to re-sign Nurk but I think we would.

 

[HoopsFanAZ]

If he was able to play PF....

So you're saying if Duren was able to play PF, that would be the equivalent of Pon farr for Spock?

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Robert Williams is the type of role Duren will thrive in.

Rim-running, paint patrolling big.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Robert Williams is the type of role Duren will thrive in.

Rim-running, paint patrolling big.

I basically posted this in the playoff thread. If you wanna see what Duren would add to Portland, watch Robert Williams. Very similar. I know we need more than that, and desperately need wings, but sheesh

 

[TBpup]

I basically posted this in the playoff thread. If you wanna see what Duren would add to Portland, watch Robert Williams. Very similar. I know we need more than that, and desperately need wings, but sheesh

Both Looney and Williams stay pretty close to the paint area. It's the wings around them that allow them to play that way....although with Draymond not being able to hit the broad side of a barn, they have 2 bigs that can't shoot.....and still made the Finals.

 

[BankTeller]

I would absolutely love it if we traded back and he was available at 11. The trade would be Bledsoe, 7 and 36 for 11, Randle and the Mavs first rounder next year. We could then give the Pistons the Mavs pick and Bucks pick for Grant who would fit into the TPE. We'd have to figure out if we wanted to re-sign Nurk but I think we would.

I would do #7 and Keon for #10 and Hachimura, then trade down from #10 to get something along with drafting Duren. That way you can at least fill the starting PF spot while getting Duren.

Don’t think I’d want Nurk in all honesty if we draft Duren. If you’re confident that Duren can develop quickly at making reads and playmaking, let Nurk walk and try to sign Portis. Portis and Duren are different players at C and will be able to contribute in different ways.

Dame/Ant/____/Hachimura/Portis with Hart, Little, and Duren on the bench and Bledsoe’s contract, $20m TPE, #36, #57, and the MIL pick to get better.

Grant would be a last resort for me, I’m sure there will be better fits for the roster. Two 1sts for Grant would make me throw up.

 

[STOMP]

Banging down low hurts and wears down your body more than a 3

running, jumping & falling on the hardwood (or if you're me, concrete) is what generally wears a hooper's body down more then any player contact. Gravity is a bitch

STOMP

 

[STOMP]

I would do #7 and Keon for #10 and Hachimura, then trade down from #10 to get something along with drafting Duren. That way you can at least fill the starting PF spot while getting Duren.

I'm pretty much positive that Duren won't make it out of the top 8. Your speculation seems fantastical.

STOMP

 

[BankTeller]

I'm pretty much positive that Duren won't make it out of the top 8. Your speculation seems fantastical.

STOMP

Plenty of people think he’ll be outside the top 8. At some point, it’s not our speculation that’s fantastical, it’s probably yours lol.

I don’t really root against anyone though, so I’d be happy to be wrong. Just hoping it’s not to us.

 

[RR7]

I basically posted this in the playoff thread. If you wanna see what Duren would add to Portland, watch Robert Williams. Very similar. I know we need more than that, and desperately need wings, but sheesh

And what I responded, Williams was picked 27th. He doesn't matter at all if not for Tatum and brown. Find a Williams at 36. Hope for. 2 way wing at 7. Drafting Williams at 7 is an overdraft

 

[illmatic99]

And what I responded, Williams was picked 27th. He doesn't matter at all if not for Tatum and brown. Find a Williams at 36. Hope for. 2 way wing at 7. Drafting Williams at 7 is an overdraft

This logic seems so straightforward to me. Not sure why others are not seeing this.

It's also partly why im getting more and more interested in Sharpe this week. We need someone with a high ceiling. High risk yes, but the reward could be just as great.

Ive spent approx 4 hrs watching every youtube video there is on Sharpe. He looks terrific but his competition was high schoolers. Its impossible to know how that will translate but i see why people ranked him so high.

 

[STOMP]

Plenty of people think he’ll be outside the top 8. At some point, it’s not our speculation that’s fantastical, it’s probably yours lol.

Could be, though I've a pretty stellar record of being proven correct on things I take a stand on like I have on Duren. He's not going to be available lower in the draft, bank on it.

STOMP

 

[STOMP]

Williams was picked 27th. He doesn't matter at all if not for Tatum and brown. Find a Williams at 36. Hope for. 2 way wing at 7. Drafting Williams at 7 is an overdraft

If the 2018 draft was done with 20/20 hindsight Williams would go near the top not 27th, Bagley wouldn't go #2 etc. This sort of miscalculation isn't exclusive for Bigs... Wings and & PGs are drafted too high and too low all the time as well. Hell, 2 way wing Josh Jackson went #4

also, Tatum and Brown don't win shit without Williams just like Curry doesn't advance without Draymond. I think Portland should find a Draymond at 36 lol! You should hear the Bay Area media gush about Williams as the prototypical modern Big & being the difference maker on the Celts.

STOMP

 

[handiman]

And what I responded, Williams was picked 27th. He doesn't matter at all if not for Tatum and brown. Find a Williams at 36. Hope for. 2 way wing at 7. Drafting Williams at 7 is an overdraft

Kawhi, PG, Giannis ... those guys weren't drafted as high as 7, either. Talent is routinely found later in the draft, regardless of position. It's all about figuring out which ones will be late bloomers or continue developing longer than others.

 

[RR7]

IMO, stars win in this league. If you think Duren could be a star, then sure, 7 is fine. I don't see Robert Williams ever being a true "star" player. Extremely valuable, sure. But those aren't guys you overdraft for. So if Williams is the comp for duren , I don't love it.

 

[Mediocre Man]

IMO, stars win in this league. If you think Duren could be a star, then sure, 7 is fine. I don't see Robert Williams ever being a true "star" player. Extremely valuable, sure. But those aren't guys you overdraft for. So if Williams is the comp for duren , I don't love it.

I agree with all of this. At 7 we aren’t likely to get a player that’s going to come scoring 15 or so ppg. That doesn’t fit the timeline that the Blazers have so foolishly set. Trading it for that 18-20 ppg guy is dumb also because that player won’t be a star either

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

I would absolutely love it if we traded back and he was available at 11. The trade would be Bledsoe, 7 and 36 for 11, Randle and the Mavs first rounder next year. We could then give the Pistons the Mavs pick and Bucks pick for Grant who would fit into the TPE. We'd have to figure out if we wanted to re-sign Nurk but I think we would.

It's a little dreary today; could you give the plan for how we get Collins, Anunoby and Ayton? All three!

 

[Mediocre Man]

It's a little dreary today; could you give the plan for how we get Collins, Anunoby and Ayton? All three!

Fantasy league?

 

[STOMP]

IMO, stars win in this league. If you think Duren could be a star, then sure, 7 is fine. I don't see Robert Williams ever being a true "star" player. Extremely valuable, sure. But those aren't guys you overdraft for. So if Williams is the comp for duren , I don't love it.

Williams is a load for sure. Lots of length and bounce. Duren is reportedly longer, bouncier & is coming into the league 30 lbs bigger and over 2 years younger. He's Hakeem sized. Of course comparisons are never literal, they 're never the same guy. Duren is raw and it will probably take him a couple years to figure it out, but by the time he's 21 he could be a complete monster with a decade + before him. He's coordinated catching the ball, his shot mechanics are actually solid, that video highlighting his passing shows off some budding BBIQ/feel & he sure sounds like a smart solid kid in interviews. Few prospects are can't miss, but I think this kid just needs some time.

STOMP

 

[blazerfan11]

Williams is a load for sure. Lots of length and bounce. Duren is reportedly longer, bouncier & is coming into the league 30 lbs bigger and over 2 years younger. He's Hakeem sized. Of course comparisons are never literal, they 're never the same guy. Duren is raw and it will probably take him a couple years to figure it out, but by the time he's 21 he could be a complete monster with a decade + before him. He's coordinated catching the ball, his shot mechanics are actually solid, that video highlighting his passing shows off some budding BBIQ/feel & he sure sounds like a smart solid kid in interviews. Few prospects are can't miss, but I think this kid just needs some time.

STOMP

In his college season, Duren has made some really nice passes and some really bad passes. The important thing to me is that he is is showing he could be a good passer at some point.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Same age:

Robert Williams at 18:

 

[blazerkor]

Same age:

Robert Williams at 18:

He's a fucking monster. I want him on our team.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

He has a rare build for a big — only Zion and Oden were this freakish at 18