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“Omsi District” masterplan
 
SlyPokerDog said:
They need to bury I-5. Why does the westside get parks along the river and the eastside gets a freeway?
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Im thinking due to the river right there, they would have to swing out towards mlk and that would be an extremely expensive thing to do. Plus going from the marcum to then a tunnel? The grade is likely not safe or practical.
 
BlazerBender said:
Im thinking due to the river right there, they would have to swing out towards mlk and that would be an extremely expensive thing to do. Plus going from the marcum to then a tunnel? The grade is likely not safe or practical.
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Need to tear the bridge down and put it in a tunnel under the river.

barfo
 
SlyPokerDog said:
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Much bigger city to be able to handle that and much flatter in that area than the zone of portland we are speaking of.
barfo said:
Need to tear the bridge down and put it in a tunnel under the river.

barfo
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I just dont see it from an engineering standpoint unless were speaking of an express lane without exits. In order to fit under the river on the west side it would have to start way back and with the slope, i just don't see it happening. The costs would far exceed the benefit l, due to how much would have to be torn down on the west side to make room for all the shoring up, etc., i think.
 
BlazerBender said:
Much bigger city to be able to handle that and much flatter in that area than the zone of portland we are speaking of.

I just dont see it from an engineering standpoint unless were speaking of an express lane without exits. In order to fit under the river on the west side it would have to start way back and with the slope, i just don't see it happening. The costs would far exceed the benefit l, due to how much would have to be torn down on the west side to make room for all the shoring up, etc., i think.
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I'm no highway engineer, but I've seen tunnels built in much tougher spots. Whether it's worth the money or not is of course a value judgement.

barfo
 
BlazerBender said:
Much bigger city to be able to handle that and much flatter in that area than the zone of portland we are speaking of.

I just dont see it from an engineering standpoint unless were speaking of an express lane without exits. In order to fit under the river on the west side it would have to start way back and with the slope, i just don't see it happening. The costs would far exceed the benefit l, due to how much would have to be torn down on the west side to make room for all the shoring up, etc., i think.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Side_Big_Pipe
 
SlyPokerDog said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Side_Big_Pipe
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From the article you posted:

“ It lies at an average of 150 feet (46 m) below the surface along the east bank of the Willamette River from the intersection of Southeast 17th Avenue and McLoughlin Boulevard to Swan Island. The pipe in the tunnel has an inside diameter of 22 feet (6.7 m).[3]”

Keep in mind this is for a two lane highway. We would need three.



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_Highway_standards
From this article:

“The Bobby Hopper Tunnel on I-49in Arkansas was built with a 25 ft (7.6 m) height total clearance, leaving plenty of room for lighting and signs hanging from the ceiling and still exceeding the 16 ft (4.9 m) minimum for rural highways“

Again for a two lane highway. We would need three
That is quite a difference in size. And to get 150ft down leaves little to zero Ability to have any exits.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
They need to bury I-5. Why does the westside get parks along the river and the eastside gets a freeway?
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Back in the day Jack Burns aka Burns Brothers had their main truck stop on Grand Ave. and as a member of the Eastside Industrial Council was an outspoken member against disrupting the neighborhood. So were some of the other business owners in the area as I recall such as Jimmy Corno owner of Corno's Market!
 
Kano John said:
Back in the day Jack Burns aka Burns Brothers had their main truck stop on Grand Ave. and as a member of the Eastside Industrial Council was an outspoken member against disrupting the neighborhood. So were some of the other business owners in the area as I recall such as Jimmy Corno owner of Corno's Market!
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Corno's Market. Wow, that brings back memories, great market.

Near the end, was this the market that had a scandle? Something about a secret bedroom in the building were kinky stuff went on?
 
oldfisherman said:
Corno's Market. Wow, that brings back memories, great market.

Near the end, was this the market that had a scandle? Something about a secret bedroom in the building were kinky stuff went on?
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Yes - there was an apartment - I was able to see it when they were auctioning off the inventory. As far as the rumors go I have no idea what was true and what wasn't although I had my suspicions.
 
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