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Natebishop3 said:
The fact is this - there are national endorsements, there are international endorsements, and then there are local endorsements.

A local endorsement in NY or LA is worth significantly more money than a local endorsement in Portland. Most guys aren't going to get national or international endorsements - doesn't matter where they play. As I said before, you have to have the right personality and play on the court to be a national brand like Dame. The thing is, Lillard is the only dude getting local spots as well. He has that goofy Standard TV and Appliance ad. I haven't seen CJ doing any local spots. And how much are those really worth?
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I agree completely. And Whitside does not have the personality to pull it off. Like I said before I rarely see any Lakers on Locals TV spots And I doubt he would jump ahead of his other teammates for local endorsements.

LA is a huge market, but look at the competition for those spots......players from the Clippers, Kings, Dodgers, Rams, movie stars, musicians ......Kardashians......... etc. etc. etc....
 
You don't have to have a personality to make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich without speaking like Draymond Green does
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I agree completely. And Whitside does not have the personality to pull it off. Like I said before I rarely see any Lakers on Locals TV spots And I doubt he would jump ahead of his other teammates for local endorsements.

LA is a huge market, but look at the competition for those spots......players from the Clippers, Kings, Dodgers, Rams, movie stars, musicians ......Kardashians......... etc. etc. etc....
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That's true about the fierce competition for local spots in LA.
 
JfizzleBlazer said:
And international endorsements are mostly going to come from guys that are:

1. From the international country
2. Already have national endorsements so the people likely know who they are
3. Are on a team that has a very strong brand internationally. Like the lakers. Or the rockets (pretty much solely from yao mings playing days)

It still makes a difference playing in portland vs. La.

Rubbing elbows with hollywood people can open other doors for you too. A guy like lebron is going to rub hollywood elbows regardless. Whiteside is not lebron. There are probably people in hollywood that dont even know who he is. If he became a blazer, they would probably continue to not know who he is. Signing with la, he is destined to make those connections and networks regardless of how awkward or suave he would be.
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One of the biggest misconceptions about big markets is that you're immediately going to make connections to movers and shakers. But you still have to be a star or at least have a level of fame already. They want you to make them money first. It's like the new Rams. Goff and Gurley will get all the national endorsements they can handle. The other players will get the all the local gigs..... store openings and car dealerships. And you can still get those in Portland just not as many. Where LA really makes the difference is in college recruiting. The exposure really makes the difference for potential pros.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
If you use this cap space calculator ; I think you'll find that even after dumping those four and Montero and Alexander, that we would only have $9 million to spend; I'm not sure there is anyone more interesting than Leonard in that price range? I do agree with you about going all in on Whiteside,
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Not that big of an expert on NBA cap rules but couldn't we just go into the luxury tax with players like Leonard and Crabbe?
 
I never said he immediately would make connections. He will at least have the opportunities to rub elbows with many involved in hollywood. Something he wouldnt be afforded in portland.
 
JfizzleBlazer said:
I never said he immediately would make connections. He will at least have the opportunities to rub elbows with many involved in hollywood. Something he wouldnt be afforded in portland.
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I have to admit. If I had a choice between doing blow with Kanye West while he discussed narcissism and eating vegan goat cheese pizza with hipsters.... I'd choose the former.
 
ripcityboy said:
I have to admit. If I had a choice between doing blow with Kanye West while he discussed narcissism and eating vegan goat cheese pizza with hipsters.... I'd choose the former.
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Larger variety of ladies in LA too.
 
JfizzleBlazer said:
Larger variety of ladies in LA too.
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That I can not argue with. We can't compete with larger markets. If you a star in LA you have a lot more options for hot women. Same with Miami. Our best hope is to find married FA's who want to stay married.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
That I can not argue with. We can't compete with larger markets. If you a star in LA you have a lot more options for hot women. Same with Miami. Our best hope is to find married FA's who want to stay married.
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Or win basketball games
 
Pinwheel1 said:
That I can not argue with. We can't compete with larger markets. If you a star in LA you have a lot more options for hot women. Same with Miami. Our best hope is to find married FA's who want to stay married.
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Dude. It's the entire Cal entertainment industry. When I was working in the music industry and going to school I was dating women thatt were just completely our of my league. I come up here and it's like no-where'sville. You just can't compare.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
That I can not argue with. We can't compete with larger markets. If you a star in LA you have a lot more options for hot women. Same with Miami. Our best hope is to find married FA's who want to stay married.
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All the more reason to go after Dwight Howard, as BlazerCaravan said there's lots of teenage runaways in Portland, and DH seems to like those.
 
Blazer509 said:
Not that big of an expert on NBA cap rules but couldn't we just go into the luxury tax with players like Leonard and Crabbe?
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Don't know if anyone answered this; they have capholds; Leonard about 7.7 million and Crabbe 2.7 million. Unless they are renounced, they count against the cap, when we are consdering signing free agents. They can be signed later for a lot more than their capholds and go over the cap.
 
He also said he absolutely loves msg and the staples center becauze he thinks they are special.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
Don't know if anyone answered this; they have capholds; Leonard about 7.7 million and Crabbe 2.7 million. Unless they are renounced, they count against the cap, when we are consdering signing free agents. They can be signed later for a lot more than their capholds and go over the cap.
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So just to clarify, if we re-sign them for more than their capholds without renouncing them, do they still count against the cap, or do we just outright have to renounce them then re-sign them?
 
Blazer509 said:
So just to clarify, if we re-sign them for more than their capholds without renouncing them, do they still count against the cap, or do we just outright have to renounce them then re-sign them?
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If we renounce them, they are free agents and anyone can sign them. If we subsequently did sign them; we would not be able to go over the cap to sign them. We can only go over the cap if they are still our restricted free agents. We would hope to sign someone else's free agent very quickly and then offer our restricted free agents or match offers that other teams make to them.
 
Miami was really no better than Portland this year, despite all their supposed star power. Maybe their center isn't really that good in a team game. His FT% is horrible, making him useless at crunch time.
 
MARIS61 said:
Miami was really no better than Portland this year, despite all their supposed star power. Maybe their center isn't really that good in a team game. His FT% is horrible, making him useless at crunch time.
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Hit FT% improved quite a bit the second part of the year. He started out very poorly but in the playoffs he shot 60% and in the last 20 games of the regular season he shot 72% from the FT line. After coming back from his mid-season stretch where he missed 6 games, he shot 69% from the FT line. Not great but not bad for most big men.
 
theprunetang said:
Anyone else worried at least a little about Hassan's ability or willingness to pass the ball? Even a little? I mean, the guy had 30 assists all season. I know that is not his primary job, but one would almost have to try to put up such paltry assist numbers.



http://hoopshype.com/2016/01/13/hassan-whitesides-assist-numbers-are-historically-bad/
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I mean yeah you could worry about it but he is still really young. He can improve so much offensively and with his passing. His defense is what is insane. The numbers he puts up. That's why I believe he is our number 1 target, not Horford
 
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