All Things Whiteside

[Cippy91]

Me too, but it has been posted all over other forums/social media, so I thought it may as well be posted here too.

damn, thought he was younger than 27. lol. Either way he is around the same ages as dame and them

 

[Hey]

Please no Whiteside. He's known for good defense yet advanced stats say otherwise.

 

[42N8Bounce]

Please no Whiteside. He's known for good defense yet advanced stats say otherwise.

Hassan Whiteside:

League Leader - Basic Stats
#1 Blocks per game, 3.7 (#2 was D Jordan, 2.3)
#3 Rebounds per game, 11.8
#3 FG%, 0.606

League Leader - Advanced Stats
#1 Block Percentage, 9.7
#1 Defensive Rating, 94.5
#2 Total Rebounding Percentage, 23.1
#3 True Shooting Percentage, 0.629
#3 Defensive Rebounding Percentage, 32.4
#5 Defensive Win-Share, 5.3
#7 PER, 25.7
#7 Win-Share per 48, 0.233
#7 Defensive Box Plus/Minus, 3.4
#9 Offensive Rebounding Percentage, 13.1
#11 Win-Share, 10.3
#16 Offensive Rating, 116.7

I'll let the Advanced Stats speak for themselves.

 

[jlprk]

I mean, the guy had 30 assists all season.
http://hoopshype.com/2016/01/13/hassan-whitesides-assist-numbers-are-historically-bad/

Still, you can’t overlook the fact that his assists numbers are staggeringly bad. Through 103 NBA games, Whiteside has 48.3 field goal attempts for every assist (721 to 15).

I played with this new stat.

FGA/assists >= 20
http://bkref.com/tiny/NsiBO

FGA/assists >= 30
http://bkref.com/tiny/h6eHT

FGA/assists >= 38
http://bkref.com/tiny/Uwk01

 

[Scalma]

 

[jlprk]

League Leader - Basic Stats
#1 Blocks per game, 3.7 (#2 was D Jordan, 2.3)
#3 Rebounds per game, 11.8
#3 FG%, 0.606

League Leader - Advanced Stats
#1 Block Percentage, 9.7
#1 Defensive Rating, 94.5
#2 Total Rebounding Percentage, 23.1
#3 True Shooting Percentage, 0.629
#3 Defensive Rebounding Percentage, 32.4
#5 Defensive Win-Share, 5.3
#7 PER, 25.7
#7 Win-Share per 48, 0.233
#7 Defensive Box Plus/Minus, 3.4
#9 Offensive Rebounding Percentage, 13.1
#11 Win-Share, 10.3
#16 Offensive Rating, 116.7

The upper-left quarter of this page appears to say that Whiteside ranked #319 in assists this season.

http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketbal...t/players/hassan-whiteside/rankings/16/15/239

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Here is a tweet from Whiteside yesterday; referring to Madison Square Garden and Staples Center.
" . . . I feel like those places are just special just because there are so many celebrities and everybody is there."
Could be a negative for us if it comes down to us or Lakers; and it also makes my stomach queasy as to who we would be getting in Whiteside, but I still think he is the strongest FA that we would have a chance of getting.

11:56 AM - 25 Jun 2016

 

[BBert]

Here is a tweet from Whiteside yesterday; referring to Madison Square Garden and Staples Center.
" . . . I feel like those places are just special just because there are so many celebrities and everybody is there."
Could be a negative for us if it comes down to us or Lakers; and it also makes my stomach queasy as to who we would be getting, but I still think he is the strongest FA that we would have a chance of getting.

11:56 AM - 25 Jun 2016

Simply a negotiating tactic by businessman Whiteside to keep the Blazers interested and ensure they offer the max. Nothing to worry about.

 

[Tunchi]

"Reports are emerging"

...only there aren't any, and I've looked.

Me too. Not one lol

 

[TBpup]

27 is still really young?

He's not that young anymore but the minutes played come out to something like a 2nd year player. Dwight Howard, at 4 years older, has almost 10x the amount of minutes played.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

He's not that young anymore but the minutes played come out to something like a 2nd year player. Dwight Howard, at 4 years older, has almost 10x the amount of minutes played.

Good point, not a lot of wear and tear.
Besides, he's 27.013 today according to basketball-reference.com, not like 27.8 or anything.
Damian Lillard is 25.347 today.

Al Horford is 30.023 today.

 

[Scalma]

"It's not about loyalty it's about the best situation for myself."







Gut feeling: he's leaving Miami.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

"I'm a businessman that plays basketball".

Yeah. Next.

 

[TBpup]

BIG difference between how Hassan is speaking in that interview and how DeRozan is going about his impending negotiations. Demar is really not even speaking with other clubs and has made it very well known that he wants to go back to Toronto. The Miami reporter was quick to jump in with, "why wouldn't the Heat continue to be the best situation?" after teams like LA, Portland and Dallas were named.

At least we made some reporters list.

 

[santeesioux]

If we could somehow get him to commit On July 1st that would give them enough time to bring the rfas back and figure out who they need to trade for a pf, that would be perfect.

 

[Cippy91]

I have the worst feeling we will lose this dude to the Lakers. I hope not though. I hope we pull this off. Everything he is saying tells me he is leaving

 

[Scalma]

I have the worst feeling we will lose this dude to the Lakers. I hope not though. I hope we pull this off. Everything he is saying tells me he is leaving

That's not a loss. That's a blessing in disguise.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

That's not a loss. That's a blessing in disguise.

Him and dangelo russell will be a ticking time bomb. There is absolutely no leadership on that squad.

Thats the advantage of portland, we have guys that can put whiteside in check.

 

[Nate]

Whiteside is a better version of deandre Jordan, and he's a better shooter... Not sure how it would be a blessing if he chose the lakers.

I haven't seen a single poster say something bad about him, that has any substance.

 

[Scalma]

Whiteside is a better version of deandre Jordan, and he's a better shooter... Not sure how it would be a blessing if he chose the lakers.

I haven't seen a single poster say something bad about him, that has any substance.

Because if he goes to the lakers winning isn't a priority for him, and that's not the type of guy we need.

Ps I don't think he's that stupid

 

[Cippy91]

I remember the last time we played the Heat, in the game thread I was talking about how Whiteside is the guy we need to go after this offseason and a lot disagreed at the time saying his passing was just so terrible and doesn't really have an offensive game, now everybody is on the wagon for this dude and rightfully so. Best defensive center in the league. Great rebounder. Exactly what we need. I say it would be a major loss if he went to the Lakers because it would be. Waste of talent on that team which wont even be good again for another couple years. Mavs are going at him too and honestly out of the three teams rumored to go after him, Portland to me is an obvious choice and I am not saying that because I am a fan, it's the truth. This team made the second round this past season, these other teams didn't come close. Why would a center not wanna play with CJ and Dame, be around a great organization and fan base where shit isn't fake like in Laker land.

 

[Trackjack]

One thing he already has connection with Dame and CJ even it on twitter there at least that connection. I don't care where he goes he not going get any endorsement especially if he doesn't having them already. Yes our tax is unreal but I still don't think that will be the turning point of his decision. The turning point will what players will he more comfortable playing with and are they winning team. I think we got great shot of signing him I am more worry about Dallas then LA. Cuban is great selling his product. So I believe it will between 3 teams Portland Dallas and Miami. Why I say Miami he already no the system even with less money it might be comfort level just my thought.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

One thing he already has connection with Dame and CJ even it on twitter there at least that connection. I don't care where he goes he not going get any endorsement especially if he doesn't having them already. Yes our tax is unreal but I still don't think that will be the turning point of his decision. The turning point will what players will he more comfortable playing with and are they winning team. I think we got great shot of signing him I am more worry about Dallas then LA. Cuban is great selling his product. So I believe it will between 3 teams Portland Dallas and Miami. Why I say Miami he already no the system even with less money it might be comfort level just my thought.

Well, he describes himself as a "businessman," so he may think he can get endorsements in LA.

 

[Trackjack]

Well, he describes himself as a "businessman," so he may think he can get endorsements in LA.

He might think that but me personal he not big name I don't care how much he makes he will not get the endorsement period. Now if he talking about his next contract that total different thing.

 

[Cippy91]

Whiteside needs to be real with himself. Can he really be endorsed and pushed in the LA market? I doubt it, somebody bigger will come along or they will be too busy pushing Ingram. Whiteside is a great player but not the type to get endorsements on that level. Dame gets huge endorsements and he is with us. Who knows. I don't know why he would want to play anywhere else. If you wanna win, you come to Portland out of the possible teams rumored to make runs out of him.

 

[Cippy91]

Another thing that would be great about getting Whiteside is that he could start center and we could use Plumlee exactly how GS uses Draymond in terms of ball handling and passing. Doesn't have the shot but in the Clippers series, he showed he could be very effective playing that way. He could toss some lobs to Whiteside

 

[H.C.]

Whiteside is a better version of deandre Jordan, and he's a better shooter... Not sure how it would be a blessing if he chose the lakers.

I haven't seen a single poster say something bad about him, that has any substance.

This must be a troll. Or you've not watched much of whiteside or DJ. The only thing they have in common is the ability to block shots, and set big screens....

 

[BonesJones]

Another thing that would be great about getting Whiteside is that he could start center and we could use Plumlee exactly how GS uses Draymond in terms of ball handling and passing. Doesn't have the shot but in the Clippers series, he showed he could be very effective playing that way. He could toss some lobs to Whiteside

Except Green can defend PFs and the only thing that opens up his drive is his ability to shoot. Without the shot, Green wouldn't be able to score. And then without his defense, he wouldn't be a starter... That's where Plumlee is...

 

[jlprk]

Whiteside is a better version of deandre Jordan, and he's a better shooter... Not sure how it would be a blessing if he chose the lakers. I haven't seen a single poster say something bad about him, that has any substance.

I know how you feel. I've never in my life heard any criticism of me that had any substance.

 

[TBpup]

Another thing that would be great about getting Whiteside is that he could start center and we could use Plumlee exactly how GS uses Draymond in terms of ball handling and passing. Doesn't have the shot but in the Clippers series, he showed he could be very effective playing that way. He could toss some lobs to Whiteside

Draymond without a shot is Plumlee but with better defense and shot-blocking ability. I don't see them as similar at all.

This must be a troll. Or you've not watched much of whiteside or DJ. The only thing they have in common is the ability to block shots, and set big screens....

To be fair, they are the same age within a month, they are of very similar height and weight, (HW is 1" taller) they have almost identical wingspans and are within 1/2" of the same standing reach. They played similar minutes last season (DJ 4 minutes more), neither one will ever shoot a 3-pt shot, both shoot a high FG% although DJ's is ridiculously high as he only dunks where HW has a little bit of a jump hook to go with all his dunks. HW is the much better FT shooter and shot-blocker even though DJ is 2nd in that category. They averaged similar points, DJ had a couple more rebounds, very similar steals and DJ gets and extra 3/4 of an assist a game.

I'm trying to find where they are very dissimilar except for the shot-blocking? DJ has a little more quickness on the perimeter where HW is more of a rim-protector.