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Natebishop3 said:
Of all the people doing "I told you so" posts, I am not one of them. There are people bumping threads from years ago and you throw that at me?
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Well, that's because you're hardly ever right. :MARIS61:
 
blue9 said:
Nope. But there is absolutely no logic behind the statement that "changing Wright to Crabbe will...have no net positive effect...in the best case scenario".
We have VERY limited data points on Crabbe, yet somehow it's already been determined that there is NO possibility for him to have a positive effect - and that would actually be the BEST CASE scenario that we could hope for.
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Unless Crabbe is the next incarnation of Kobe Bryant, I'll stand by my assessment.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
Unless Crabbe is the next incarnation of Kobe Bryant, I'll stand by my assessment.
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So the only way Crabbe could have a positive effect on the team is if he's as good as the best SG of the past 15 years?
 
blue9 said:
So the only way Crabbe could have a positive effect on the team is if he's as good as the best SG of the past 15 years?
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With the 5-6 minutes we insert him into the game for the hell of it? You'd have to reduce Wright's rotation time to zero for Crabbe to play enough minutes to make any difference at all. And when we're in the playoffs, this will definitely hurt since Wright is an experienced veteran who's won an NBA championship.

Yes.

Also you can look at historical 31st pick in the draft.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/history-of-the-nba-draft-pick-number-31
 
hmm...looking at his playoff totals, he's actually only scored 5points in the playoffs in 7 games. lol. oh well, still doesn't change the fact he's way more experienced overall than Crabbe. Also, there's no real reason to do it, coaches know how Crabbe plays in practice.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
hmm...looking at his playoff totals, he's actually only scored 5points in the playoffs in 7 games. lol. oh well, still doesn't change the fact he's way more experienced overall than Crabbe. Also, there's no real reason to do it, coaches know how Crabbe plays in practice.
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No real reason, other than Wright playing like shit right now? :dunno:
 
Natebishop3 said:
No real reason, other than Wright playing like shit right now? :dunno:
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I can live with it. He is struggling, but with vets you just don't bench them for unproven 2nd year guys who've played 12 minutes in their career. Especially when you are the hottest team in the league and the coach has a system in place. To call this coaching philosophy Bush league would be insulting to George W. Bush.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
Actually you do with minor things (i.e. Mo Williams).
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I thought Williams was going to be much more effective for us. I wasn't right about Mo, and I'm not happy that he's struggling right now. I thought Mo and Dorell would be better off the bench for us.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I thought Williams was going to be much more effective for us. I wasn't right about Mo, and I'm not happy that he's struggling right now. I thought Mo and Dorell would be better off the bench for us.
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"Its a process". Just have to have patience with them. They're underperforming, but I think its more systemic than their individual skills as a player. They'll click eventually, its still fairly early in the season and we're sitting pretty.
 
Does anyone know of a stats site that has season long player +/- ?
I think the bench is negative big.
 
Just give Barton's minutes to Crabbe.

Does Crabbe play Wright's position, or guard? If Crabbe's a forward, give him Batum's time.
 
Olshey gave up two good #2s to get Crabbe. Crabbe better produce.
 
Have those who think "Wright is fine" have you been watching the games??? Sober???

He's been terrible! I looked at some threads about him from prior teams, and he's developed quite a few haters in his prior stops, for doing the same shit we've seen so far this year. Blowing layups, not boxing out, making goofy plays, being a streaky shooter etc...

One guy quipped that he was going to set an NBA record for passing out of open layups.

I know Wright looks good at first glance, he's long, athletic and can shoot, but he's really not a good player at all aside from being a solid shooter (and he's barely been adequate at that for us).

Why do you think we got him so cheap?

I'd actually like to see what Claver can do...he's no shooter, but he'd be better in all other areas I think.
 
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Being a 1-dimensional player, just a shooter, put Rudy, Batum, Webster, etc. to sleep.

Batum used to look uninterested until Stotts got him active without being a featured shooter.

Stotts should do the same for Wright. Give him several nonshooting responsibilities. This will awaken his inner tiger.
 
Wright has been in the league for 8 years, he is what he is. He's basically earning minimum wage for a player his age, so that shows you what the rest of the NBA thinks of him.
 
Crabbe seems to me a carbon copy of Wright. But Wright has experience and Crabbe doesn't. You would probably get a lot more mistakes out of Crabbe. I would like to see him get some burn but not if it cost us wins. I'm with the others that said if we lost a few and Wright is obviously sucking then give Crabbe a shot. Otherwise I would stick with Wright.

I'm actually a little suprised Will Barton hasn't played. I would like to see what a Mo/Barton back court can do. It seems like Stotts has no faith in him.
 
Sinobas said:
I'd actually like to see what Claver can do...he's no shooter, but he'd be better in all other areas I think.
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I second this. And, as Wright isn't shooting all that well, Claver can't be that much worse. And Claver actually shot very well from three in Spain.
 
These types of threads are dumb.

It's as if games are the only time a coach gets to see his players skills, strengths and weaknesses and has to use that to make a decision about their playing time. Stotts has a lot more information than we do to make this decision.

Posters calling for giving Crabbe 4 minutes per game just want the chance to play internet coach and act like the Blazers owe them the opportunity to see Crabbe play so they can make the decision about how much playing time he should get.

If you are so bored with this team that you need to see Crabbe play 4 minutes per game to give yourself something to discuss, go ask if you can attend a couple practices.
 
blazerboy30 said:
These types of threads are dumb.

It's as if games are the only time a coach gets to see his players skills, strengths and weaknesses and has to use that to make a decision about their playing time. Stotts has a lot more information than we do to make this decision.

Posters calling for giving Crabbe 4 minutes per game just want the chance to play internet coach and act like the Blazers owe them the opportunity to see Crabbe play so they can make the decision about how much playing time he should get.

If you are so bored with this team that you need to see Crabbe play 4 minutes per game to give yourself something to discuss, go ask if you can attend a couple practices.
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No, this type of post is dumb. This is a forum where fans discuss the specifics of everything blazers. If one player is playing subpar, it's completely normal to discuss possible solutions. If a draftee is not seeing any playing time, it's expected that fans will discuss this.

Otherwise if we take your logic, there isn't anything to ever question because obviously the coaches have more info, are experts and have final say. Can't talk about Mo getting too many minutes, that's Stotts purview. Can't talk about match ups, defensive assignments, because we don't have 100% of the information. Denny, close this forum down, it turns out threads about anything team related aside from smily emoticons is dumb. Bull-fucking-shit.
 
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No, this type of post is dumb. This is a forum where fans discuss the specifics of everything blazers. If one player is playing subpar, it's completely normal to discuss possible solutions. If a draftee is not seeing any playing time, it's expected that fans will discuss this.

Otherwise if we take your logic, there isn't anything to ever question because obviously the coaches have more info, are experts and have final say. Can't talk about Mo getting too many minutes, that's Stotts purview. Can't talk about match ups, defensive assignments, because we don't have 100% of the information. Denny, close this forum down, it turns out threads about anything team related aside from smily emoticons is dumb. Bull-fucking-shit.
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Further again
 
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No, this type of post is dumb. This is a forum where fans discuss the specifics of everything blazers. If one player is playing subpar, it's completely normal to discuss possible solutions. If a draftee is not seeing any playing time, it's expected that fans will discuss this.

Otherwise if we take your logic, there isn't anything to ever question because obviously the coaches have more info, are experts and have final say.
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If you think that is "my logic", you don't follow logic very well.

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Can't talk about Mo getting too many minutes, that's Stotts purview.
Can't talk about match ups, defensive assignments, because we don't have 100% of the information. Denny, close this forum down, it turns out threads about anything team related aside from smily emoticons is dumb. Bull-fucking-shit.
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This is ridiculous. There are plenty of things to discuss based on what we can see. If you can't tell the difference between intelligent basketball discussion and guess-and-check, fantasy-league internet coach, baseless suggestions, I don't know what to tell you.

Instead you want to have threads like this one which amount to:

Hey guys, one of our guys that plays 12 mpg isn't shooting well. Should we give his minutes to a player none of you have ever seen play? His name is John.

Yeah! Great idea! We should give him 4 mpg and see what happens. Surely it will turn around our bench production.
 
Dorrell 3 for 3 on threes at half time
 
Watch Crabbe break the record in garbage time. lol
 
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