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Boob-No-More said:
Why is anyone who disagrees with your opinions labeled a hater?

I've been labeled a Crabbe hater because I think he's grotesquely overpaid based on his level of production, but I've never once expressed any kind of hatred or dislike for Allen Crabbe personally. I can hate the contract without hating the man. He actually seems like a pretty good guy.

You seem to have some need to label people who disagree with you. They are either retarded, haters, or both.

BNM
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Sure.
 
chzbrgr said:
I cant help you if you think the Harden trade of all things was smart. They never made it back to the finals after that year. We must live in opposite worlds cause that trade was and still is widely seen as a blunder.
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Yeah, that's totally what I said.

I'm still waiting.
 
Nate said:
Well if you want to be technical, the thunder had a better record the year after they traded harden away. And they didn't get shit in return, so that's not even comparable to trading CJ for Cousins. Kevin Martin, isn't even in the league anymore.

Well that was easy.

When was the last time that a team traded one player, for an all-star, in his prime, and got worse?

Go head I'll wait.
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So in this thread, you've compared CJ to Kevin Martin, suggested that the Thunder trading Harden was a good thing, tried to validate yourself be saying you wanted Whiteside when the majority of the board did, as well as well as suggested anyone who would take CJ/Plumlee over Cousins/Crabbe "might be retarded".

Nice work.
 
BonesJones said:
So in this thread, you've compared CJ to Kevin Martin, suggested that the Thunder trading Harden was a good thing, tried to validate yourself be saying you wanted Whiteside when the majority of the board did, as well as well as suggested anyone who would take CJ/Plumlee over Cousins/Crabbe "might be retarded".

Nice work.
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I said it's not even comparable. Can you read?

I definitely wasn't saying that it was a good thing, I said technically, they won more games the next year.

You were the person that said getting Whiteside would be the biggest mistake in trailblazers history, so idk why you're talking about him.

And We're talking about sports, try not to get too butt hurt. I'm pretty sure we all know, that couldn't make someone retarded.
 
And I only brought up Whiteside, because people are saying the same shit about Cousins, as they said about Whiteside.

"Headcase"

"Overrated"

And they play the same position.
 
Nate said:
I said it's not even comparable. Can you read?

I definitely wasn't saying that it was a good thing, I said technically, they won more games the next year.

You were the person that said getting Whiteside would be the biggest mistake in trailblazers history, so idk why you're talking about him.

And We're talking about sports, try not to get too butt hurt. I'm pretty sure we all know, that couldn't make someone retarded.
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I was? Lolol where?

I'm not gonna wade through shitpost lake and look at things that thoroughly.
 
Nate said:
Yeah, that's totally what I said.

I'm still waiting.
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In what world did the Harden trade work out for OKC? Is this really the argument you are making rn? cause its indefensible idk what else you could be waiting for? maybe just your mom to come home and make you dinner? Im not sure.
 
chzbrgr said:
In what world did the Harden trade work out for OKC? Is this really the argument you are making rn? cause its indefensible idk what else you could be waiting for? maybe just your mom to come home and make you dinner? Im not sure.
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Going back, he never really answered the question at all. He threw the Harden deal out as a technicality, not saying that the team got better, simply that they posted a better record. But if you read his entire post, rather than really answering your question--which isn't really relevant to the Blazers (since CJ isn't an all-star)--he responded with a question of his own which is more relevant to the Blazers, which is (I assume) why he continues to say he's waiting.

So to clarify--you two are presently talking about two completely different things (you about your question about trading an all-star away, he about his question regarding bringing an all-star in), and you will never actually progress this conversation unless you both begin talking about the same thing.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Going back, he never really answered the question at all. He threw the Harden deal out as a technicality, not saying that the team got better, simply that they posted a better record. But if you read his entire post, rather than really answering your question--which isn't really relevant to the Blazers (since CJ isn't an all-star)--he responded with a question of his own which is more relevant to the Blazers, which is (I assume) why he continues to say he's waiting.

So to clarify--you two are presently talking about two completely different things (you about your question about trading an all-star away, he about his question regarding bringing an all-star in), and you will never actually progress this conversation unless you both begin talking about the same thing.
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I gave up on having any semblance of a real conversation with him a while ago.

He's desperately trying to grab at the James Harden straws. Either he knows it's bullshit, and he's trolling, or he really doesn't understand, in which case, I don't really care.
 
BonesJones said:
This dude has been pretty passive aggressive to me in the past. I treat people how they treat me (except Tunchi lol)
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Passive aggressive?

I think every time I've disagreed with anyone on this board, I've been very direct.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
So to clarify--you two are presently talking about two completely different things (you about your question about trading an all-star away, he about his question regarding bringing an all-star in), and you will never actually progress this conversation unless you both begin talking about the same thing.
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not really tho as I understand it I said when was a team BETTER for trading away a BUDDING all-star the james harden is a very relevant example (that nate brought up in his great wisdom) he wasnt an allstar in OKC iirc but 6moty (budding all-star level player tho) got traded for spare parts IN HIS PRIME (we can all see how that is turning out) to act as if I was the one incoherently grasping at straws about harden i didnt even bring it up! So IDK about all that.

Now to hold that up as an example WHY WE SHOULD trade CJ I mean.... if anything it should deter us from doing such a thing. We should want to be Houston in that scenario not OKC . Im all for bringing in an all-star level player we need another one but this nate is a stupid motherfucker for saying we will be better without CJ and deserves to be called out as such.

had to add a motherfucker so these ignorant people feel me.

lookin at you nate
 
If I'm a stupid motherfucker for thinking that this would make us better. I think I can live with that.

29.1 PPG
10.5 TRB
3.3 AST
1.2 STL
1.4 BLK
.455 FG%
.383 3P% - On 4.7 attempts per game
.558 TS%
 
chzbrgr said:
not really tho as I understand it I said when was a team BETTER for trading away a BUDDING all-star the james harden is a very relevant example (that nate brought up in his great wisdom) he wasnt an allstar in OKC iirc but 6moty (budding all-star level player tho) got traded for spare parts IN HIS PRIME (we can all see how that is turning out) to act as if I was the one incoherently grasping at straws about harden i didnt even bring it up! So IDK about all that.

Now to hold that up as an example WHY WE SHOULD trade CJ I mean.... if anything it should deter us from doing such a thing. We should want to be Houston in that scenario not OKC . Im all for bringing in an all-star level player we need another one but this nate is a stupid motherfucker for saying we will be better without CJ and deserves to be called out as such.

had to add a motherfucker so these ignorant people feel me.

lookin at you nate
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People should have to pass some sort of basic literacy test, before they can join this forum.

Thank you, for clarifying that you were looking at me though. I couldn't tell.

Also, I'm still waiting.
 
Nate said:
If I'm a stupid motherfucker for thinking that this would make us better. I think I can live with that.

29.1 PPG
10.5 TRB
3.3 AST
1.2 STL
1.4 BLK
.455 FG%
.383 3P% - On 4.7 attempts per game
.558 TS%
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There's multiple problems I'd have with trading CJ for Cousins.

In no particular order

1.) Cousins contract is expiring in a year. If we traded CJ for him and he left, we'd be absolutely screwed.
2.) Is Cousins insane stats translate into a winner? For as good of stats as he puts up, why can't he lead his team to wins? Ever year he does less with more.
3.) Is he as good as he looks while playing on a winner? Kevin Love was considered at the level Cousins is now while playing for the lowly Timberwolves. He went to the Cavs, a winning franchise, and he was barely an all star. Is Cousins just a stat guy on a bad team as well?
4.) We still have no 3rd option. I know Harkless has been outstanding this year, but on a championship winning team he's the 4th or 5th option, not the 3rd.
5.) Locker room problems. You all know that story.

I don't think Cousins would make us nessecarily worse, I just don't think he improves us enough to justify that trade, and to take on the risks associated with it.
 
KingSpeed said:
Trading for Cousins only makes sense if we keep Dame & CJ and if Cousins signs extension.
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For us. Does it make sense for SAC? Is a package including any/all of Mo, Aminu, Leonard, Crabbe, etc. plus picks that's enough for them to pull the trigger?

BNM
 
BonesJones said:
2.) Is Cousins insane stats translate into a winner? For as good of stats as he puts up, why can't he lead his team to wins? Ever year he does less with more.
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Related to this, people tend to just look at his raw PPG/RPG numbers and proclaim him THE BEST! But for a PF/C he has a rather poor FG%. That's something that always bugged me about LMA, and one of several reasons (which you pretty much outlined) why I wouldn't trade CJ for DMC. I do want DMC, but CJ is a much more valuable commodity and therefore we either shouldn't trade him for DMC, or if we do we need to get more in return (draft picks).
He also doesn't have a particularly good DRtg.
 
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