Amreicans believe country headed in right direction

[blazerboy30]

I mean, since you know we are on the wrong track, you must know with certainty what the right track is, right?

barfo

Sorry, that is an absolutely illogical sentence.

I'll tell you that my real name isn't Alibaba, so you must know with certainty what my real name is, right?

 

[blazerboy30]

People on this board use a saying "in KP we trust" . . . I understand why fans say that and why they are willing to accept any trade by KP without questioning it . . . i think it almost the same philosophy people have with Obama.

Sorry to ignore the rest of your post...

But did people have the "in KP we trust" mindset before he had actually made any trades or good and big decisions?

 

[barfo]

Sorry, that is an absolutely illogical sentence.

You don't know my real name, so you must know with certainty what my real name isn't, right?

Yes, I do know what your real name isn't. It isn't Rumpelstiltskin.

While you are correct about the logic of my sentence, you are also avoiding the question. Let me rephrase it. How do you know the current path is the wrong one?

barfo

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Right. But it seems as though it's_go_time has resigned to the idea that "we", collectively, can not do anything to influence our government.

I see the confusion. If I said we (as in all the American people) can't do anything about it, I didn't express myself correctly. I meant "we" as in you and me.

I get the whole grass roots thing and do think the majority of Americans, when banded together, can do something including influnefce government.

But the country isn't even close to taht . . . in fact the country is much more on the side of trusting Obama (if you believe the AP poll).

So I meant you and I can't do anything about Obama's decisions . . .thus we either follow "blindly" or "opened eye" but we follow until the majority speaks up loud enough to get gov't to listen or majority votes in new congress or president.

 

[blazerboy30]

Yes, I do know what your real name isn't. It isn't Rumpelstiltskin.

Dang, you beat me before my edit.

While you are correct about the logic of my sentence, you are also avoiding the question. Let me rephrase it. How do you know the current path is the wrong one?

barfo

Get out a calculator. We can't possibly pay for it, let alone trying to pay for it using 5% of the American people, while everybody else gets a tax break, as Obama promises.

 

[barfo]

Dang, you beat me before my edit.

Got to be lightning quick around here.

Get out a calculator. We can't possibly pay for it, let alone trying to pay for it using 5% of the American people, while everybody else gets a tax break, as Obama promises.

Get out a calculator. We can pay for it, while 95% of the country gets a tax break, as Obama promises.

There, convinced?

barfo

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Sorry to ignore the rest of your post...

But did people have the "in KP we trust" mindset before he had actually made any trades or good and big decisions?

Yes . . . Paul Allen. And anyone who heard KP talk, the background he came from and what his peers said about him, probably developed a lot of trust in him. KP wreaks of intelligence and understanding how to build a winning franchise. Some would say Obama wreaks of intelligence and where this country needs to go.

And for those who didn't trust in KP and questioned his decisons . . . they still had to follow KP as a Blazer fan and had no impact on KP's decisons . . . and more so, the ones that questioned his trades were, for the most part, wrong.

So when Obama's trades play out . . . maybe you too will be preaching "in Obama we trust' . . . I say just go ahead and get on the bandwagon now.

 

[blazerboy30]

Yes . . . Paul Allen. And anyone who heard KP talk, the background he came from and what his peers said about him, probably developed a lot of trust in him. KP wreaks of intelligence and understanding how to build a winning franchise. Some would say Obama wreaks of intelligence and where this country needs to go.

And for those who didn't trust in KP and questioned his decisons . . . they still had to follow KP as a Blazer fan and had no impact on KP's decisons . . . and more so, the ones that questioned his trades were, for the most part, wrong.

You said "people on this board", not Paul Allen. I would like to see some posts of "people on this board" claiming "In KP we trust" before we had seen him make big trades, and big decisions.

 

[blazerboy30]

Got to be lightning quick around here.



Get out a calculator. We can pay for it, while 95% of the country gets a tax break, as Obama promises.

There, convinced?

barfo

I understand that you are just trying to be contradictory for fun, but if you don't want to do any math for yourself, just look at both the CBO's projections, and Obama's own projections.

Obviously we can't afford it, otherwise the deficit would not be projected to keep growing at astounding levels.

 

[barfo]

I understand that you are just trying to be contradictory for fun, but if you don't want to do any math for yourself, just look at both the CBO's projections, and Obama's own projections.

Obviously we can't afford it, otherwise the deficit would not be projected to keep growing at astounding levels.

Well, yes, literally we cannot afford it. On the other hand, we couldn't afford the deficits Bush ran up either.

The real question is, what's a better alternative. It's fine to say this is bad, but we are in a bad situation. The goal is to choose the least unpleasant path. If you aren't willing to do painful things, and every alternative is painful, then you aren't going to get anywhere.

barfo

 

[The_Lillard_King]

You said "people on this board", not Paul Allen. I would like to see some posts of "people on this board" claiming "In KP we trust" before we had seen him make big trades, and big decisions.

OK . . . you and I just think on two different levels(I can't believe you thought when I said "we" I was talking about all of Ameican citizens instead of you and me . . . you're picking words and not getting my over all thoughts . . . but probably a me problem) . The point about KP is people trust what he does without questioning it. Did they do it at the begining, like PA, or after the draft of Roy and Aldridge or a year later after the trade of Zach or a year after that when KP brought in Rudy, Nic and Bayless in one year . . . I don't know. But at some point, people, such as the owner, fans and even some media started believeing in KP and not questioning his moves.

Back to Obama . . . there are people who, based on whatever factors are important to them, decided to trust the man's judgement in running the country. I guess that is hard for you to understand . . . because (I get your side) all gov't decisions should be questioned.

I just can't believe you don't understand why some choose to trust Obama . . .

 

[The_Lillard_King]

OK BB . . . I hate going back and reading threads, but in this case I had to because apparently I am bad at expressing what I am really trying to say.

I never said "we" as in collectively could change things. It never read that way, I refer to we as in us "both."

So when you misquote me and say that I said we, collectively, can't do anything, you are either not taking the time to read my posts or purposefully trying to mischaracterize my posts.

Either way . . . I'm done. You have no interest in trying to see my side, you just want to try to win some wierd word game.

Peace . . . which really means peace . . .

 

[boatsandstars]

I'm a complain-y republican. I'm a complain-y republican! everyone look at me. I don't do anything all day so I can rebut EVERY post with nonsense and catch phrases. That means I win. I'm a winner! Woo hoo! Not a failure. I proved it on internet.

 

[blazerboy30]

I'm a complain-y republican. I'm a complain-y republican! everyone look at me. I don't do anything all day so I can rebut EVERY post with nonsense and catch phrases. That means I win. I'm a winner! Woo hoo! Not a failure. I proved it on internet.

I have to give you credit: You aren't even embarrassed to flaunt around an incredible lack of intelligence. Congrats.

 

[DaRizzle]

Hey Blazerboy, you do realize Obama was elected by the majority of the American people right? Its almost as if we elected him to do a job. "We" hired him because we think he is a good presidential choice in peoples minds. How about we let him do his job. If we see something glaringly bad happening, like when alcoholic/cokehead Bush was in office then we can question what they are doing...

We can question them and get straight answers since they are working for us...oh wait...

 

[maxiep]

Hey Blazerboy, you do realize Obama was elected by the majority of the American people right? Its almost as if we elected him to do a job. "We" hired him because we think he is a good presidential choice in peoples minds. How about we let him do his job. If we see something glaringly bad happening, like when alcoholic/cokehead Bush was in office then we can question what they are doing...

We can question them and get straight answers since they are working for us...oh wait...

By all means, we should never question authority. If we see something amiss, we should just keep our mouths shut. Sorry, but we're not yet ruled by the Baathists.

 

[boatsandstars]

By all means, we should never question authority. If we see something amiss, we should just keep our mouths shut. Sorry, but we're not yet ruled by the Baathists.

Burn. Baaathists are the offical mouthpiece of this thread.

 

[maxiep]

Burn. Baaathists are the offical mouthpiece of this thread.

Obsession is not a good color on you.

 

[boatsandstars]

People generally feel a more intense emotional reaction when an action leads to a bad outcome than when inaction results in the same outcome. It's a fact. Factified. Officially a fact.

 

[DaRizzle]

By all means, we should never question authority. If we see something amiss, we should just keep our mouths shut. Sorry, but we're not yet ruled by the Baathists.

Oh yeah...we were really questioning our Gov when they decided to put us in a bullshit war costing us billions we could really use right now.

Forget the last 8 years! Lets just tear the new guy an asshole in his first 3+ months! Punish this guy cause the last guy sucked!

 

[boatsandstars]

Obsession is not a good color on you.

It's not even a color. Can't you say anything true?

 

[maxiep]

It's not even a color. Can't you say anything true?

Oh, but it is. And you're bathed in it. My God, I've owned you without lifting a finger. You can't get me out of your head.

 

[blazerboy30]

Hey Blazerboy, you do realize Obama was elected by the majority of the American people right? Its almost as if we elected him to do a job. "We" hired him because we think he is a good presidential choice in peoples minds.

Of course he was elected by the majority of Americans. And like I said, the majority of Americans also think they are of above average intelligence. (Think about that for a second, it is impossible, given a normal distribution, and shows that, in fact, Americans are dumb)

Further, when Obama was campaigning, did he let the American people know that he wanted to quadruple the deficit and take our national debt to 85% of our GDP, and NOT end the Iraq war? Nope.

How about we let him do his job. If we see something glaringly bad happening, like when alcoholic/cokehead Bush was in office then we can question what they are doing...

Uh, quadrupling our deficit, and running our debt to 85% of GDP, with communist China being the largest holder of our crippling debt, IS glaringly bad.

If you think our country took a hit due to Bush's bad leadership and policies, just wait until you see how bad things can get when our dollar is worth nothing, our economy has stalled, and each American owes China over $100,000 in today's dollars.

 

[DaRizzle]

If you think our country took a hit due to Bush's bad leadership and policies, just wait until you see how bad things can get when our dollar is worth nothing, our economy has stalled, and each American owes China over $100,000 in today's dollars.

The old Boss took 8 year to fuck it up this bad and you want the new boss to fix everything in his first few months...ok dude

And no the new boss isnt the same as the old boss

 

[maxiep]

The old Boss took 8 year to fuck it up this bad and you want the new boss to fix everything in his first few months...ok dude

And no the new boss isnt the same as the old boss

Okay, be specific. What did the Bush Administration "fuck up"? Please respond with more than bumper sticker answers.

 

[DaRizzle]

Okay, be specific. What did the Bush Administration "fuck up"? Please respond with more than bumper sticker answers.

Go find out for yourself...There are plenty of experts you could tell you more eloquently than I can...that and i dont want to write a 20 page essay

 

[maxiep]

Go find out for yourself...There are plenty of experts you could tell you more eloquently than I can...that and i dont want to write a 20 page essay

So you have no answers other than what is fed to you?

 

[DaRizzle]

So you have no answers other than what is fed to you?

Oh omnipotent one please grace me with how you get your info...I can only assume you are in the meetings and have top secret clearence.

Please go ahead and tell me how Bush was a great President...If thats not what you are trying to do then fuck off and stop jerkin my chain prick

 

[maxiep]

Oh omnipotent one please grace me with how you get your info...I can only assume you are in the meetings and have top secret clearence.

Please go ahead and tell me how Bush was a great President...If thats not what you are trying to do then fuck off and stop jerkin my chain prick

Wow, why so excitable? It was just a question. If you make a statement like, "The old Boss took 8 year to fuck it up this bad...", you should be able to back it up. I thought President Bush was an excellent president in terms of prosecution of the War on Terror, a great president when it came to Africa and a pretty bad president in almost every other area.

And as for your language, you used "fuck off", "jerkin' my chain" and "prick". One doesn't have to be a Freudian to see there's a subtext to your post. While I'm flattered, DaRizzle, I'm married.

 

[boatsandstars]

Oh omnipotent one please grace me with how you get your info...I can only assume you are in the meetings and have top secret clearence.

Please go ahead and tell me how Bush was a great President...If thats not what you are trying to do then fuck off and stop jerkin my chain prick

It's pretty clear that his life sucks. I mean, the dude sits around and posts all day long. He equates having the time to respond to everything with winning the argument. It's sad, really.


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