And the name of his book is "Touched" / Paterno fired! (1 Viewer)

[SlyPokerDog]

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. (AP)—A former defensive coach who was integral for decades to Penn State’s football success was accused Saturday of molesting eight boys, and two school administrators were charged with failing to tell police when a witness told them he saw a boy being sexually assaulted in the shower.

Former defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky, 67, was arrested Saturday and released on $100,000 bail after being arraigned on 40 criminal counts, according to the office of the state attorney general, Linda Kelly. She called Sandusky “a sexual predator who used his position within the university and community to repeatedly prey on young boys.”

Though reports surfaced months ago that Sandusky was being investigated, the case took on an added dimension Saturday when Penn State’s athletic director, Tim Curley, 57, and vice president for finance and business Gary Schultz, 62, were charged with perjury. Both were expected to turn themselves in on Monday in Harrisburg.

Longtime head coach Joe Paterno, who has more victories than any coach in the history of Division I football, was not charged, authorities said, and the grand jury report did not appear to implicate him in wrongdoing. It said that when Paterno first learned of one report of abuse, he immediately reported it to Curley, but Sandusky was no longer coaching at the time and it’s not clear whether Paterno followed up with Curley.

For Penn State and the large community of alumni that surrounds it in Pennsylvania and beyond, the allegations represent a devastating blemish. Led for more than four decades by Paterno’s strong and unique public persona, the athletic program has prided itself on being clean and unsusceptible to the scandals that have tarnished other major schools.

Sandusky, closely identified with the school’s reputation as a defensive powerhouse and a program that produced top-quality linebackers, retired in 1999 but continued to work with at-risk children through the nonprofit Second Mile organization he founded in 1977, where authorities say all of the accusers first encountered him.
The allegations against Sandusky range from sexual touching to oral and anal sex, and the young men testified they were in their early teens when some of the abuse occurred, and there is evidence even younger children may have been victimized. Defense attorney Joe Amendola said Sandusky has been aware of the accusations for about three years and has maintained his innocence.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-pennstateex-coach-allegations

 

[Haakzilla]

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...when you continue to abuse your children, then you can expect tragedies like this to continue for the rest of time.

 

[Ed O]

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A story from a few years ago:

http://pennstate.scout.com/2/630302.html

It includes this unfortunate line:

"Jerry Sandusky says The Second Mile touches “over 100,000 kids” every year."

Eek!

Ed O.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

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HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP)—Just hours after stepping down, two high-ranking Penn State administrators face arraignment Monday on charges they lied to a grand jury investigating former defense coordinator Jerry Sandusky and failed to properly report suspected child abuse, a case that has left fans reeling.

Late Sunday, after an emergency meeting of the Board of Trustees, university President Graham Spanier announced that Athletic Director Tim Curley and Gary Schultz, the school’s senior vice president for business and finance, would be leaving their posts.

Curley requested to be placed on administrative leave so he could devote time to his defense, and Schultz will be going back into retirement, Spanier said. Both men have maintained they are innocent of any wrongdoing in connection with the probe into whether Sandusky sexually abused eight boys over a 15-year period.

State Attorney General Linda Kelly and state police Commissioner Frank Noonan are expected to hold a 1 p.m. news conference about the case Monday a few miles from the Harrisburg district court. The arraignment is scheduled for immediately after that.

Sandusky was arrested Saturday on charges that he preyed on boys he met through The Second Mile, a charity he founded for at-risk youths. The charity said in a statement Sunday that Sandusky has had no involvement with The Second Mile programs involving children since 2008, when Sandusky told the foundation that he was being investigated on child-sex allegations.

The case has rocked State College, a campus town routinely ranked among America’s best places to live and nicknamed Happy Valley. Under head football coach Joe Paterno—who testified before the grand jury and isn’t considered a suspect—the teams were revered both for winning games, including two national championships, and largely steering clear of trouble.

In a statement issued Sunday, Paterno said the charges were “shocking.”

“The fact that someone we thought we knew might have harmed young people to this extent is deeply troubling,” he said. “If this is true we were all fooled, along with scores of professionals trained in such things, and we grieve for the victims and their families. They are in our prayers.”

Sandusky, whose defenses were usually anchored by tough-guy linebackers, spent three decades at the school. The charges against him cover the period from 1994 to 2009.

Sandusky retired in 1999 but continued to use the school’s facilities, but university officials said Sunday they were moving to ban him from campus in the wake of the charges.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-pennstate-abuse

 

[SlyPokerDog]

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Penn State coach Joe Paterno issued a statement Sunday concerning his knowledge of the Jerry Sandusky child molestation case and while heartfelt and appropriately toned, it raised as many questions as answers.

Most notably for Paterno, it did nothing to quell debate over whether the legendary coach fulfilled his moral obligation when a then-graduate assistant presented a chilling allegation of a potential sexual assault of a 10-year-old boy inside the Penn State locker room by Sandusky, the team’s former defensive coordinator.

Legally, Paterno did the right thing; he summoned his boss, athletic director Tim Curley, to his home the next day and passed along the information.

That Paterno apparently didn’t follow up on the investigation or call the police himself remains a hotly debated topic of this ugly scandal.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footba...paterno_statement_raises_more_questions110611

 

[SlyPokerDog]

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Time for Joe Pa to retire.

 

[BrianFromWA]

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Time for Joe Pa to retire.

Signed, 1989.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

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Sandusky was still using Penn State facilities as recently as last week.

 

[Nikolokolus]

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The sickest part is the coverup by the grad assistant, Joe Paterno and the administration.

Furthermore if you catch a 50 year old man in a shower with a ten year old boy there are two (and only two) appropriate responses by the grad assistant 1. Immediate and violent intercession to stop the offender and protect the child. 2. Dragging the corpse of the offender to the police.

 

[porkchopexpress]

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The sickest part is the coverup by the grad assistant, Joe Paterno and the administration.

Furthermore if you catch a 50 year old man in a shower with a ten year old boy there are two (and only two) appropriate responses by the grad assistant 1. Immediate and violent intercession to stop the offender and protect the child. 2. Dragging the corpse of the offender to the police.

The GA not doing more right then and the ensuing coverup is bad and all, but the sickest part, by a mile, has to be the actual pedophilia.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

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The GA not doing more right then and the ensuing coverup is bad and all, but the sickest part, by a mile, has to be the actual pedophilia.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

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PHILADELPHIA — A former Penn State assistant football coach accused of sexually abusing boys operated a series of youth sports camps at a satellite campus for six years after he was prohibited from taking youths onto the school’s main campus by the athletics director and the senior vice president, who have been charged with failing to tell police about him.

The ban against Jerry Sandusky was imposed in 2002, the year a graduate student claimed to see him assault a child in a locker room shower. But Sandusky held summer football camps through his Sandusky Associates company at the satellite campus just outside Erie from 2000 to 2008, Penn State Behrend spokesman Bill Gonda said.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...-main-campus/2011/11/07/gIQAFFwUxM_story.html

 

[Nikolokolus]

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The GA not doing more right then and the ensuing coverup is bad and all, but the sickest part, by a mile, has to be the actual pedophilia.

Evil people do evil shit, that's a given ... and yes the actual sexual assault is the sickest part, but when bystanders are complicit in allowing it to happen they're just as guilty as the predator in my opinion.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

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STATE COLLEGE, Pa. — Joe Paterno’s tenure as coach of the Penn State football team will soon be over, perhaps within days or weeks, in the wake of a sex-abuse scandal that has implicated university officials, according to two people briefed on conversations among the university’s top officials.

The board of trustees has yet to determine the precise timing of Paterno’s exit, but it is clear that the man who has more victories than any other coach at college football’s top level and who made Penn State a prestigious national brand will not survive to coach another season. Discussions about how to manage his departure have begun, according to the two people.

Paterno was to have held a news conference Tuesday but the university canceled it less than an hour before it was scheduled to start.

At age 84 and with 46 seasons as the Penn State head coach behind him, Paterno’s extraordinary run of success — one that produced tens of millions of dollars for the school and two national championships, and that established him as one of the nation’s most revered leaders, will end with a stunning and humiliating final chapter.



http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/09/s...aid-to-be-planning-paternos-exit.html?_r=2&hp

 

[tlongII]

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I read some of the indictment and that is some sick shit.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

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Exclusive: Victims Double In Penn State Case

UNIVERSITY PARK, Pa. - Fox 29 has learned the number of child-abuse in the Penn State sex-abuse scandal involving ex-coach Jerry Sandusky has more than doubled in the past day, and is closer to 20 victims.

There were eight victims named in the grand jury presentment and 40 charges leveled against Sandusky, a long-time assistant to Penn State head football coach Joe Paterno. Paterno was not named in the grand jury finding as violating any laws.

Sources tell Fox 29 since a press conference on Monday, the number of potential victims has more than doubled in the case.

http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/spor...ive:-victims-double-in-penn-state-case-110811

 

[MickZagger]

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PSU fans rallying outside of Paterno's house in support of him. His son Scott Paterno is saying that nobody has asked him to step down.

 

[MickZagger]

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Matt Millen's emotional take on the situation:

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[SlyPokerDog]

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So Matt Millen knew about this for years and didn't say a fucking thing?!?

 

[MickZagger]

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Oh, thats what you got from it.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

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Oh, thats what you got from it.

He said he's on the board of Sandusky's charity and that the board has known about these allegations for years. So sure, he cried, boo hoo. Meanwhile kids were being abused and he did nothing. Didn't even distance himself from the pervert. But again, he cried on national TV so that makes everything alright. Poor Matt Millen, the oldest victim in this tragedy.

 

[MickZagger]

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He said he's on the board of Sandusky's charity and that the board has known about these allegations for years. So sure, he cried, boo hoo. Meanwhile kids were being abused and he did nothing. Didn't even distance himself from the pervert. But again, he cried on national TV so that makes everything alright. Poor Matt Millen, the oldest victim in this tragedy.

Board has known about the allegations. Key word allegations. It wasn't until now that they found enough substance to move forward and charge him.

I dont think he was getting emotional out of pity for himself. I think he got emotional, because a school he went to and a coach that he played for is a sick and twisted pervert.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

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Board has known about the allegations. Key word allegations. It wasn't until now that they found enough substance to move forward and charge him.

Would you sit on the board of a charity if you heard rumors that the leader of that charity was molesting children, especially when the mission/purpose of the charity gives him easy access to children?

 

[MickZagger]

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Would you sit on the board of a charity if you heard rumors that the leader of that charity was molesting children, especially when the mission/purpose of the charity gives him easy access to children?

Makes you wonder how involved he was with the charity, or if it was just a charity for Millen to get involved in. Makes you wonder if he even caught wind of the rumors since it was being covered up. How long have these allegations been public knowledge?

I find it hard to believe that Millen is just using his Sportcenter interview as a platform of pity for himself. Kinda laughable.

He was emotional because some sick and twisted shit happened way too close to home. I'd be kind of angry and emotional too.

 

[The Sebastian Express]

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Would you sit on the board of a charity if you heard rumors that the leader of that charity was molesting children, especially when the mission/purpose of the charity gives him easy access to children?

Any responsible adult on that charity board would have called for Sandusky to have no involvement with children until a thorough investigation had been completed and he had been cleared of allegations/charges. And if they continued to allow him to have access to children involved in the charity afterwards then every single adult in every institute that knew about these allegations are responsible for the continued abuse of children. Pedophiles do not stop at one victim.

Hiding behind 'I fulfilled my legal obligations' line in a case like this is pathetic.

 

[PapaG]

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That pep rally outside of Paterno's house last night was disgusting. Are these people living in a bubble?



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[BrianFromWA]

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this really belongs in my "young Americans today" rant in the other thread, but this is from Geoff Baker, columnist for Seattle Times (and born in Canada, so that's where the hockey reference comes from):

But the people in this country also have to understand that no other place in the world spends as much time and money as we do here obsessing over teams and athletes that are still amateurs. Yeah, they get a bit crazed over junior hockey in Canada from time to time. But not to the extent that I've seen drooling parents and boosters here get when it comes to 15-year-old high school football players, never mind their college brethren.

It is what it is, but now, that obsession we have with pre-pro sports is playing a part in the Penn State scandal. The recurring theme that keeps coming up is how Paterno had amassed so much power at his university that he essentially answered to nobody. That people were fearful of making independent decisions on-the-spot because of the political ramifications of not discussing them with Paterno first.

This type of thinking has been spotlighted for decades when it comes to NCAA violations. Only now, we've got something a lot more serious. Now, we've got police allegations that defenseless boys were sexually assaulted while the adults around them did little more than stand around talking about it.

So, yeah, this is way worse.

This cuts to the very core of what we believe as a society. We believe it's wrong to rape little boys. And yet, this system we've created, where a football coach can become the most powerful figure at a publically-funded university, allegedly helped enable egregious acts to go unpunished for over a decade.

That's just plain wrong. And the people now cheering Paterno like a rock star are an embarrassment.

There's been a ton of talk the past decade about how we, as a country, have lost our way. We've been devastated by the housing crisis and the subsequent economic collapse due largely to fraudulent practices. Are being eclipsed internationally in business, education and health care, while getting bogged down domestically by partisan politics. We obsess over celebrities while showing minimal interest in the political process and changes to laws that could impact us greatly down the road.

Hey, nobody's perfect. And we're not going to reverse it all overnight.

But the one thing we can do right now is to try to reclaim our moral compass. We can do a better job of understanding the difference between right and wrong. That the ends don't always justify the means. That we need to do more than the minimum. That looking the other way isn't always an option. That there isn't one set of rules for Wall Street, or Capitol Hill, or football coaches and assistants, and different ones for everybody else.
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It may never change a system where we make college coaches some our highest-paid state employees, or analyze high school football players on national television as if they're NFL veterans. But it can lead to a place where supposedly intelligent college students aren't standing outside a coach's home cheering him on for doing as little as possible to stop an alleged predator of young boys.

Those cheering students are the future of this country. They may turn out to be in a minority, but they're still attending a highly-regarded academic institution subsidized by taxpayers. And they just failed their biggest test yet.

But no, it's not a surprise. Just look at their role models.

 

[The Sebastian Express]

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Please don't act like this is a generational thing. People in the 50s and 60s ignored and outright threw alleged victims under the bus for trying to bring to light the crimes of their friends/famous people, etc. For decades people having been getting fired for bringing up allegations against high-ranking employees such as rape, molestation, etc.

It is because they can't imagine they would cheer for someone who would do such evil things so they continue to defend them to defend themselves. It is not a 'young Americans today' thing, it is a human being thing that has happened since the dawn of time. It is disgusting now, and it has been disgusting forever.

 

[BrianFromWA]

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So what you're telling me is that a multi-generational following supports things like Real World, Kim Kardashian/Paris Hilton, rallying for football coaches but not victims' rights? That no one comes out against pastors, Boy Scout leaders, etc.? I completely disagree. Maybe there were different things decades ago that people didn't speak up about. But for decades there have been whistleblower protections for bringing up allegations against anyone.

To put it in perspective, Occupy Penn State got this response:

Some of the Occupy Penn State students participated in “Corbettville,” a HUB campout last semester in protest of tuition increases and Gov. Tom Corbett’s education funding cutbacks, said senior Brian Flowers, of Indiana. Before Occupy Wall Street galvanized them, they had been considering another demonstration, he said.

Flowers, a rally organizer, said Penn State isn’t a hotbed of activism, but he hopes the rally helps raise awareness of social and economic injustice.

Read more: http://www.centredaily.com/2011/10/17/2953588/occupy-movement-comes-to-penn.html#ixzz1dELBANR6

 

[The Sebastian Express]

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My mother is 62, and her boyfriend is 67, and they know far more about the Kardashians and Paris Hilton, and all the other reality shows than I do, and I am 26. All their friends do as well. Ranging from 50-70. Oddly, most of my friends range 20-32 and only know what they see when watching or reading the news. Do you really think the demographic for Real HouseWives: whatever city, a reality show with people aged 30-50 is really that of "young Americans"? I'd wager it is probably for people aged 30-50, because I don't know anyone my age that watches it. But I do know a good number of people older than me who do.

You do understand what kind of culture we live in right? Where rape victims are questioned and told they deserved it, maybe if they had dressed differently, they must have been looking for it with a skirt that low. Where a ten year old girl can be gang-raped by over a dozen men ages 14-24 and people said well, she was dressed far older than she was, where were her parents, what did they teach her, those poor boys they had their entire lives ahead of them. This said by people of all ages in the community. How often do you hear "S/he seemed like such a nice person, I can't really imagine this being true, I -hope- not". This isn't a new culture - this is a culture that has existed since the beginning of time. It isn't everyone, of course, but it is a good number.

That is why a bunch of dumb kids went and rallied outside of Paterno's house, because they can't imagine the man they so admire doing something so vile as to not report child molestation to the cops and they rally around his "fulfilled his legal obligation" spiel. Part of the same reason, I imagine, Paterno didn't report it to the cops - because he couldn't imagine his friend doing something so vile as to molest a kid. Clearly the guy who told him must have been making it up, or heard wrong. Why get the cops involved? Just tell the person above you and let them handle it. Because really, he seems like such a nice guy, I can't imagine him doing that, he's my friend afterall, right? I wouldn't be friends with a child molester.


And by the way, decades ago there were people that didn't speak up about child molestation, or shrugged it off because "he's such a good man he'd never hurt any kids, they just must be confused." Not many people want to believe bad things about their friends until they see it with their own eyes. Devastating for the kids involved - past, present, and future.

What those students did rallying outside Paterno's home and treating him like he's innocent or did what he was supposed to is disgusting, of this there is no doubt. It makes me angry. But it isn't a generational thing, please don't try to comfort yourself by thinking only young people defend him earnestly. I've seen people of all ages do it.