Anderson Varejao

[Mediocre Man]

I think he would be a great vet big for us. 3 years with a team option in year 3. He makes 8.4 this year. I wonder if the Cavs would take a future 1st for him, then turn around and replace him with Scola?


What are your thoughts?

 

[magnifier661]

I am a big varejao fan. He is a hard hat defender and rebounder. You can't have too many of those. Plus he gets under players skin too.

 

[drexlersdad]

havent heard that he is on the block, but worth a look i guess

 

[RR7]

I think he would be a great vet big for us. 3 years with a team option in year 3. He makes 8.4 this year. I wonder if the Cavs would take a future 1st for him, then turn around and replace him with Scola?


What are your thoughts?

The future first is tricky, because of owing one to Charlotte, but I'd be all for adding him. We have little else we can realistically offer. Unless they had interest in Elliot Williams or Luke Babbitt, and the space of losing him.

 

[Sedatedfork]

After adding Hickson and Freeland, does it make much sense to pursue him?

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

After adding Hickson and Freeland, does it make much sense to pursue him?

No. Scola would be a better target and still not recommended.

 

[Nikolokolus]

After adding Hickson and Freeland, does it make much sense to pursue him?

I think so?

He's probably the most capable of that bunch at playing the 5, if only because he's got the most experience as a rebounder/defender, whereas Hickson is almost exclusively an offensive-minded 4 and counting on Freeland to play the five might be a stretch (not to mention Leonard who is pretty goddamned raw and probably shouldn't play much more than spot minutes).

 

[Rastapopoulos]

My thoughts are expressed here.

Varejao is a game-changer on defense, at 4 or (more importantly) 5. But last season he put up borderline all-star numbers, so the Cavs would want plenty in return. (The Cavs seemed playoff-bound before he went down, and then they entered a death-spiral. But that brings up my next point...)
And he does seem to be always injured. But if we got him without giving up too much, I would be ecstatic.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

After adding Hickson and Freeland, does it make much sense to pursue him?

He's a far better defender than either, and more suited to playing the 5, at which we are very thin, unless we plan to play Aldridge there, which I would be okay with, but he wouldn't.

 

[Sedatedfork]

He's a far better defender than either, and more suited to playing the 5, at which we are very thin, unless we plan to play Aldridge there, which I would be okay with, but he wouldn't.

I get that. I just think that if you were going to do this I have to scratch my head about signing both Freeland and Hickson. I guess you can't have too much depth of bigs?

 

[illmatic99]

Great vet? Why? What's your expectation for this roster? I don't see us winning more than 30 games. Don't need a mediocre, complementary player who will hurt our draft position.

 

[RR7]

I get that. I just think that if you were going to do this I have to scratch my head about signing both Freeland and Hickson. I guess you can't have too much depth of bigs?

Again, I think it all depends on the price of acquiring him, but

Lillard/vet?/Smith
Wes/Elliot/Barton
Nic/Claver/Babbitt
Aldridge/Hickson/Freeland
Varejao/Leonard/Thomas

With likely barton, Leonard seeing most of their time in the DLeague

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I now see where you're getting this, MM: Stein is tweeting about the Cavs wanting Scola bad and suggesting that Varejao might be movable. Presumably, though, the only reason they'd move him is to lower their salary commitments to be able to make a bid, so it would have to be (as you said) a pick or picks. And it would also have to be RIGHT NOW, before Batum is signed. It would be hard to believe that we could offer a better package of picks than any number of other teams, though.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Could we acquire Scola and then trade him for Varejao later? He's certainly an "asset", to use Olshey's term.

 

[Rhal]

Could we acquire Scola and then trade him for Varejao later? He's certainly an "asset", to use Olshey's term.

You can't trade players you picked up off the amnesty waiver.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Too expensive.

Amico would flip if his Cavs didn't receive LMA in return.

 

[BrianFromWA]

You can't trade players you picked up off the amnesty waiver.

This. For 1yr, iirc. Can't verify from my phone

 

[BrianFromWA]

I now see where you're getting this, MM: Stein is tweeting about the Cavs wanting Scola bad and suggesting that Varejao might be movable. Presumably, though, the only reason they'd move him is to lower their salary commitments to be able to make a bid, so it would have to be (as you said) a pick or picks. And it would also have to be RIGHT NOW, before Batum is signed. It would be hard to believe that we could offer a better package of picks than any number of other teams, though.

We can only trade our 2018 1st, or whatever we get from MIN

 

[magnifier661]

We can only trade our 2018 1st, or whatever we get from MIN

I was thinking more in the line of 2020-2022 first rounders.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Lol can't go past 18. Only next 6 drafts eligible to trade

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

I'm thinking more along the lines of a protected first-rounder that eventually turns into a second-rounder. A dick move, I know.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I didnt get it anywhere? Im in the middle of bumfuck Texas. My guess is stein got it from me...LOL. also, i dont think Leonard spends a second in the D leavue

 

[drexlersdad]

This. For 1yr, iirc. Can't verify from my phone

half right, until the next league year, july 1st

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q67

The waiving team may not re-sign or re-acquire the player for the length of his contract (which includes seasons following an ETO, but does not include seasons following an option), and the claiming team is prohibited from trading the player until the following July 1.

which is basically a year anyways

 

[Rhal]

This. For 1yr, iirc. Can't verify from my phone

Braniac answered that question it seems

 

[Rhal]

Last year Cavs wanted a kings ransom for Varejao I assume they would still want a young asset or two as well as multiple first round picks for him.

 

[drexlersdad]

Last year Cavs wanted a kings ransom for Varejao I assume they would still want a young asset or two as well as multiple first round picks for him.

cavs arent looking to cut salary, so no real incentive for them to dump sideshow bob right now

 

[Rastapopoulos]

cavs arent looking to cut salary, so no real incentive for them to dump sideshow bob right now

Can they bid on Scola without cutting salary?