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Scalma said:
simons and his max contract ain’t coming off the bench next season. I think it’s more likely that Hart starts at SF with Nas off the bench.
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Then we wouldn’t win shit. How many got damn undersized teams does your ass want to run out there?

DERP!
 
TBpup said:
I would submit they are the exception that proves the rule. It was a one-off, and those two aren't like Dame/Ant other than in size. Thomas had maybe the tightest handle in NBA history (Kyrie is up there as well), and Dumars was a 1st team All-Defense player. Neither of Dame or Ant is either of those. I fear we could be back to a slightly better version of Dame/CJ. Two guards who take the bulk of the shots while the rest of the team has to play defense.

Dame has averages right at 20 shots per game for the last 7 seasons. That seems unlikely to change all of a sudden and it probably shouldn't. He's earned that and proved to be worthy of that amount of attempts.
In Ant's last 23 games where he has exploded, he is averaging 18+ shots per game. That is 38 shots per game between the two of them, and very similar to what Dame/CJ have done for years....which rendered us going no where in the Playoffs.

In the last 10 games, the Blazers are averaging 89.6 FGA's per game. And that is with Chauncey's emphasis on pushing the ball....which Dame very rarely does. Either Dame and Ant are going to have to have decreases in the amount of shots they get per game, or we are going to be back to 2 players taking 42% of the shots and everyone else dividing up crumbs and covering on defense. The problem is, you don't really want Dame taking less shots and Ant is shooting at an efficiency level since he became the lead guard that is off the charts....so you don't really want to take shots away from him either.

That leaves 51 shots for the remaining 6-7 players. Nurk wants his touches, as he is getting 13+ shots per game in his last 24. If he is going to remain at that level (and stay happy and productive) that now leaves 38 shots for Hart, Winslow, Nas, Grant?, McLemore?, and Watford. That is an average of 6 shots per game per player. Since coming to Portland, Hart is getting a VERY efficient 13+ shots per game. Grant is averaging 16 shots per game in his last 2 seasons.

Someone is going to have to take the hit. Unless they are winning at a high level, that can cause problems just like it did before. And does Dame suddenly after 10 seasons, start sprinting up and down the court? When CJ blew up and joined Dame in the backcourt, there were those who were dubious from the start and it completely proved out to be an ineffective style in contributing to being a contender. Not enough size or defense, and then asking teammates to cover for them when they were taking a large bulk of the shots.

Ant is a bit different than CJ, but combined with Dame, this seems eerily too similar. Hope I'm wrong, or Dame's career will continue to be one of being on a nice little team that isn't a threat to anyone of contender status.
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Plus, Thomas and Dumars could hand check/clothes line the shit out of their opponents.
 
blazerfan11 said:
We are talking about winning the finals ( I believe). Phoenix didn't win. They lost 4 games in a row. That is not a competitive series. I'm looking at the history of the champions, not the teams who lost in the finals. Because of the way the NBA is set up (like most leagues) the two best teams don't necessarily make it to the finals.
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I mean, if you want to ignore all context to make your point, sure. The reality is they were a couple of possessions away from winning it all, which is too close to a random amount of various to validate your arbitrary qualifications for a team being capable of winning a championship.
I do agree that All Star and All Defense selections are arbitrary. It may come later or earlier. Chris Paul is a 12 time All Star and a 7 time All Defensive first team member.
He's no longer an all-defensive team guy though.
Edit: Only by looking at history, it looks very very unlikely to win a championship with a team that has no All Defense Team members (whose selection may not be the year they win the championship).
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If you raise the number of qualifications enough, any roster construction will look unique enough to be "unlikely" to win based upon it's own uniqueness. The league is different now than it was 10 years ago. It's more wide-open now than it was 5 years, ago.
Edit 2: To win a championship. really what you want is your best player to be one of the best players in the league. The only team I can think of where the best player wasn't an All Defensive Team member is Golden State, if you consider Steph Curry to be their best player. Golden State may be the template for such a team. But they have Draymond Green, who is a 4 time All Defensive first team member, and the defensive player of the year in 2017. And Klay Thompson, he's made the All Defensive 2nd team once.
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The best players in the league are usually determined based on what they do offensively. Therefore, there's no correlation between having to have your best player being your best defender. I feel like you're looking at correlation and trying to establish causation that isn't there.

In the end, the team has to be good enough. If they build a roster that's unique but good enough, it works. If they build a team that has more similarities to teams of the past, it doesn't matter if they're not good enough. A Dame+Ant backcourt will be elite offensively. It's about getting them to play the best defense possible and surrounding them with good enough defenders to make the team good enough.
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Wizard Mentor said:
Lillard is pissed! He's still 31, but the video says he's approaching his mid-30s :)
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Is that not true? He will be 32 this Summer. Seems like he is "approaching his mid-30s". But, hopefully it makes him pissed and he comes back even stronger.
 
TBpup said:
Is that not true? He will be 32 this Summer. Seems like he is "approaching his mid-30s". But, hopefully it makes him pissed and he comes back even stronger.
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Mid 30's are 34-36. Saying 32 is approaching the Mid 30's is like saying, we're almost to Portland, when your in Grants Pass. Our society is way too consumed with the "down the line", instead of focusing on getting the most out of today. Dame has plenty to offer at an "Elite" level. A healthy Dame will probably extend that span. Enjoy the ride. Plus, Ant is a youngster. If Dame was to play another 6 years, Ant would only be 28. Who knows, by then, some of y'all might think he's ready for his AARP card.
 
MickZagger said:
Campazzo and Monte Morris played well above their averages and held Lillard and CJ in check.
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Ya, 55 pts, 34 pt. avg. per game was truly keeping Dame in check. Dame had 3-30+ games, 1- 40+, and the opus 55 point game, where if he had teammates who could hit a damn shot, would have led to a victory. The Nuggets held him in check ONE GAME out of 6. Held him in check. STOP IT!
 
KSF-ERIC said:
Wait what? Last I heard from you, we were going to lose 13 in a row! Like literally like a week ago.
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BTW, that reminds me, what happened to that guy who said we would lose 6 straight And I told him we had too much pride for that to happen and he said talent would overcome pride? Where is that guy?
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
BTW, that reminds me, what happened to that guy who said we would lose 6 straight And I told him we had too much pride for that to happen and he said talent would overcome pride? Where is that guy?
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I think more people should be held accountable for their nonsense on here, so I like this post lolol
 
SlyPokerCat said:
But you don't like it when people call out your bullshit so you block them.
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That reminds me! Tell us more about how Kanter is gonna be in the league next season HAHHAHANABA

I block stupid people, I don’t care about getting called out on anything, I can own being wrong.
 
Scalma said:
That reminds me! Tell us more about how Kanter is gonna be in the league next season HAHHAHANABA

I block stupid people, I don’t care about getting called out on anything, I can own being wrong.
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He still could be in the league next season. Last I checked, next season hasn't started yet.

And oooohhhhhhh if he isn't in the league next year, I would be wrong. Big fucking deal.

It isn't a coincidence that many people nowadays call you out. Being a bully isn't cool. Cut that shit out.
 
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I don't
blazerkor said:
Stop trolling me man. The team is better than I thought it would be. I'm not alone in that. You go extremely positive every time. You are wrong a helluva lot. Most people have just decided to tune out your nonsense. So when you go positive every time it's just like when Aldo goes negative every time, sometimes you will be right and most people that take an approach that is more nuanced than worshiping everything this team does will be wrong but if I took the time to find all of your Stotts loving bullshit, your Olshey is always right nonsense, your takes about what success for our team is, your terrible predictions about series that we would win... I would be spending all of my time showing you all of the times you're wrong. I have no interest in doing that.

Again, I was wrong. I get things wrong a lot but seriously your perspective on this team is fundamentally wrong, we can fuck up, we do fuck up, we're never as good as you say we are... if we were we would have won a shit ton more playoff series than we have over the past decade. I don't usually mind your reckless optimism but get the the fuck off of my back.
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The Trail Blazers are a different team from the one that lost to Orlando at home by 18 points.
All the predictions can be tossed in the trash bin and nobody should be held "accountable" for them.
 
tykendo said:
Ya, 55 pts, 34 pt. avg. per game was truly keeping Dame in check. Dame had 3-30+ games, 1- 40+, and the opus 55 point game, where if he had teammates who could hit a damn shot, would have led to a victory. The Nuggets held him in check ONE GAME out of 6. Held him in check. STOP IT!
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Seriously, what a clown shit take. In that series, Dame averaged 34.3 points, 10.2 assists and shot 44.6% from 3. He also had one of the GREATEST games in playoff history and you call that holding someone in check?!? GTFOH.

And in regards to CJ, with the exception of Game 7 vs Denver in 2019, he never showed up in the playoffs.
 
OneSport3 said:
Seriously, what a clown shit take. In that series, Dame averaged 34.3 points, 10.2 assists and shot 44.6% from 3. He also had one of the GREATEST games in playoff history and you call that holding someone in check?!? GTFOH.

And in regards to CJ, with the exception of Game 7 vs Denver in 2019, he never showed up in the playoffs.
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yeah and neither will Ant because they’re the same height or something, so this ain’t gonna work pal.
 
Board seems extra testy today. I’m just happy we are playing the right kind of basketball and have flexibility this offseason. I think it’s safe to say the future is way brighter with Joe/Chauncey than it was with Neil/Terry.
 
simons is a midget, but hes really athletic and elite shooter (better than dame & cj mccollum) and can develop further in playmaking, which is already impressive, given hes actually a shooting guard, converted into playmaker by trail blazers (dare i say, thank you neil olshey for never bringing in a point guard, he saw the potential in simons and he was right)
 
I am a propoent of the middle route: keep Ant and Dame and optimize defensive strategies/matchups. All teams have a shortcoming or two. Dame and Ant have to be accountable on defense. Surely they can do better than ~worst in the league? How about they become average defenders? That combined with using Hart more even down stretches will help. Another defensive specialist should be signed post haste.
 
LayneStaley said:
Board seems extra testy today. I’m just happy we are playing the right kind of basketball and have flexibility this offseason. I think it’s safe to say the future is way brighter with Joe/Chauncey than it was with Neil/Terry.
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Chauncey....yes. Still too soon to say with Joe.
 
The Suns are currently ranked #1 in most power rankings. The start a 6’0” PG and a 6’5” SG who is a well known defensive deficit player, particularly in defending P&Rs. Dame is 2” taller than CP3 and has a higher vertical. Ant is listed at just 1” shorter than Booker and has a 6” higher vertical. There’s nothing inherently wrong with a Dame/Ant pairing if they both work hard on defense. The fact that they can roll with the bigger Hart when needed makes this whole issue moot as far as I’m concerned.
 
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