Anfernee Simons trade destinations

[Strenuus]

A great day it will be when he's traded.

Unfortunately, this is Cronins CJ - He won't trade him.

 

[Boomchakalaka2]

I agree about SA. Look what Pop did with Patty Mills. But 4 will get them Castle and 8 probably will get them Knecht. So that will make it tough in my mind.

As for the Knicks, you really think Ant is a Thibs kind of guy? I agree Hart is not a shooter, and I agree the other guys did not show up, but for the most part wasn't that because they were sitting in street close. At least that was the narrative the media was leading with. I can see them trading Randle though as I don't think he is a Thibs kind of guy either.

PS: I also think that Grant would flourish with Pops….

 

[Boomchakalaka2]

Nets need incoming picks. They bloarfed all their picks, and are trying to rebuild with other teams picks.

Brooklyn would easily take Anfernee and some Blazers secondary picks for Ben. Then we can wait for Simmons to hopefully someday, maybe, perhaps be healthy enough to help Portland win games.

If not... Cronin can tank for a new rookie, while explaining that he doesn't have enough data to calculate any sort of immediate improvements. Because obviously the Blazers have had too many unfortunate injuries.

Simmons will be in his final year of his contract.

 

[blazerkor]

A great day it will be when he's traded.

Unfortunately, this is Cronins CJ - He won't trade him.

 

[Whyachi]

Simmons will be in his final year of his contract.

even better !! Wipe Cronin's luxury tax problems off the board with a 1 year Ben Simmons rental and walk. Make sure to catch him saying he wants to stay in Portland. That way fans can use the Aldridge narrative. It's not the GM's fault if Ben said he would stay, then bails out without draft compensation.

 

[Whyachi]

A great day it will be when he's traded.

Unfortunately, this is Cronins CJ - He won't trade him.

the Vulcans & Cronin chose Anfernee to lead this new era of Blazers basketball. This decision was well before Scoot. It was part of the teardown process. Build a new squad through losing. Push Dame out the door. Lose and draft draft draft and lose and draft draft draft draft with Anfernee as team captain.

How's it looking so far ??
COMPLICATED
Winning is for losers, and losing is winning. Be a winner by enjoying the losing. Only losers complain about the losing. Stop whining, and be a winner. Let Cronin lose for winning.

 

[wizenheimer]

the Vulcans & Cronin chose Anfernee to lead this new era of Blazers basketball. This decision was well before Scoot. It was part of the teardown process. Build a new squad through losing. Push Dame out the door. Lose and draft draft draft and lose and draft draft draft draft with Anfernee as team captain.

How's it looking so far ??
COMPLICATED
Winning is for losers, and losing is winning. Be a winner by enjoying the losing. Only losers complain about the losing. Stop whining, and be a winner. Let Cronin lose for winning.

you obviously went to the Baghdad Bob School of Creative Writing...but I think you missed a semester

 

[BIG Q]

the Vulcans & Cronin chose Anfernee to lead this new era of Blazers basketball. This decision was well before Scoot. It was part of the teardown process. Build a new squad through losing. Push Dame out the door. Lose and draft draft draft and lose and draft draft draft draft with Anfernee as team captain.

How's it looking so far ??
COMPLICATED
Winning is for losers, and losing is winning. Be a winner by enjoying the losing. Only losers complain about the losing. Stop whining, and be a winner. Let Cronin lose for winning.

Not to be argumentative, but Lillard led the team to a sweep in the WCF his best season. I don’t envision Ant getting close to even that failure. Time to cut bait there and yes, draft, draft and draft until you have two stars that can score at will and are not defensive liabilities. Then fill out the team around them. I like Scoot/Sharpe and Ayton. Interested in what they draft and send out this summer and looking forward to the first pick next year. Dreaming is free, buying tickets is expensive.

 

[Hoopguru]

Think POP's wants to win now, he's old and Wemby is ready.

This trade helps both teams:
SA gets - Ant Simons in a three for 1.
PTB's get - Jeremy Sochan, Julian Champagnie & Devonte Graham (salary with 1 year) buy out? We get two young forwards 4&3

 

[SharpesTriumph]

According to the poll, 8 people have fallen in love with Simons and hold him untouchable.

The poll is a question of where people think Ant ends up - has nothing to do with their personal opinion of Ant being held or traded.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

A great day it will be when he's traded.

Unfortunately, this is Cronins CJ - He won't trade him.

It'll be great if we get a great asset in return.

If all we get is luxury tax relief and a weak asset because of also signing Thybulle and Grant... it will be a big waste.

 

[theprunetang]

Apparently he’s a colorectal surgeon in Portland and Vancouver WA

https://www.legacyhealth.org/providers/anthony-simons

Sounds like a crappy job

I bet he wishes he was an NBA player

He would be unstoppable the way he gets to the hole.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Simmons will be in his final year of his contract.

If the Blazers trade for Ben Simmons he's totally irrelevant here... just sit on the IR until the trade deadline and either flip or buyout.

Should be zero concern of how Ben would or wouldn't fit in a Blazers rotation. Only concern is what assets Blazers can get for absorbing his deal.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

I’m a past season ticket holder of the Knicks and follow them closely. Watching the playoffs was miserable as the only (and quite predictable) scorer was Brunson. Hart is not a “scorer” and the rest of that bunch didn’t step up. Ant would be a perfect fit next to Brunson (offensively but not defensively) and NY has plenty of picks. We’d have to take back a contract or two in any case. Personally, I would take Randle and bolster our front court while we give Scoot and Sharpe a year to grow together.

When trading Ant and Thybulle to the Nets for Simmons…I have delusions that Simmons will ever play; this would be a trade in order to obtain draft capital from the Nets for doing them the favor of taking Simmons off their hands. I would try my very best to turn right around and flip him to any taker and pick up additional draft capital and get him off our books - but I have no fantasies about playing Simmons.

The team (and coach) that would covet Ant more than any other, in my opinion, would be the Spurs and Pops. Ant is coachable and boy could he spread the court for Wemby. I think Ant can land us the 8th pick - not so certain about landing the 4th - and this trade doesn’t really require a draft night move as it could certainly happen over the Summer. I don’t recall seeing so many “draft pick for player” trades on draft night as trades are mostly about trading and swapping picks.

Ant to NY for Randle makes a ton of sense. Now I think its a stupid strategy for the Blazers to acquire a more win now guy like Randle over youth/picks - but I don't expect good long term strategies from the Blazers. I agree it gives NY a scoring dynamic they need, they also have the defense to hide Ant fine. Hart started at PF for them in the playoffs so I think they can still fit all their guards together. They probably plan to eventually flip some players and picks for more of a star upgrade anyways (Bridges/etc).

 

[SharpesTriumph]

I am OK with trading Ant for a player/position of need. I can understand trading him if we needed cap space help. I can see trading him if he doesn't want to come off the bench. (Although there has been no indication that he would be upset with that) But this whole inhibiting the growth of Scoot /Sharpe reasoning has never seemed logical to me.

If Sharpe plays well he will continue to get huge minutes. He has the most well rounded skills on the team. The Blazers are dependent on him in order to succeed. His 33 minuets per game are not going to go down. He was playing close to 40 minutes before he got hurt.

As for Scoot, he was not ready last year but got big minutes regardless. I don't think playing him 25 minutes instead of 35 minutes is all that bad until he proves he deserves more. Let him ease in to it. 25 minutes/game this next year when he is still only 20 is not going to hinder his development. If he improves this summer, and through out the season, than great he will get more minutes.

Totally agree. Trading Ant for a useful return is fine. Trading him so Scoot/Sharpe have more room to play 40+ mpg with no backups and both being injury prone seems extremely stupid.

We literally had 0 healthy games with all 3 of these guys last season.

 

[theprunetang]

I chose "other" in the poll. I think Detroit is getting tired of finishing the season in last place and drafting 5th. They want to start winning some games and desperately need shooting. I think Anfernee would fit in well as a SG next to Cade at the point. They kind of cover eachother's weaknesses (at least offensively). I have no idea what the possible pieces could entail. That is not my bailiwick. I think the motivation could be there for both teams though.

 

[blazerkor]

Think POP's wants to win now, he's old and Wemby is ready.

This trade helps both teams:
SA gets - Ant Simons in a three for 1.
PTB's get - Jeremy Sochan, Julian Champagnie & Devonte Graham (salary with 1 year) buy out? We get two young forwards 4&3

Graham wouldn't need to be part of that deal. The Spurs are just under the salary cap if they opt in on Graham, Champagnie and Bassey and sign all of their 4 draft picks but one of those four or both second rounders could be two ways because the three opt ins and two first rounders put them at 14 players on the roster. I know they could have 15. All that I'm saying is we'd only have to take Graham if we wanted him.

As far as the trade goes, I love it for us but I think the Spurs likely value Sochan and Champagnie more than both picks 4 and 8 in this draft. I'm pretty sure they could get Ant easily for the 4th pick and might be able to pry him away for the 8th... allowing them to keep Sochan, Champagnie and at least one lotto pick. I'd love to be wrong... Champagnie and even more so Sochan are definitely the type of guys we need and they have proven they can already play decently at the NBA level.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

I chose "other" in the poll. I think Detroit is getting tired of finishing the season in last place and drafting 5th. They want to start winning some games and desperately need shooting. I think Anfernee would fit in well as a SG next to Cade at the point. They kind of cover eachother's weaknesses (at least offensively). I have no idea what the possible pieces could entail. That is not in bailiwick. I think the motivation could be there for both teams though.

Yeah I think no trade or the field of 23 not listed teams is certainly the two most likely outcomes.

 

[blazerkor]

Yeah I think no trade or the field of 23 not listed teams is certainly the two most likely outcomes.

I agree but if I had to pick two teams out of the whole league who both have the assets to get Ant and likely would want him the most... I'd probably pick Orlando and San Antonio.

 

[Strenuus]

It'll be great if we get a great asset in return.

If all we get is luxury tax relief and a weak asset because of also signing Thybulle and Grant... it will be a big waste.

I mean, he's a waste on this team so I see it as a wash.

 

[wizenheimer]

It'll be great if we get a great asset in return.

If all we get is luxury tax relief and a weak asset because of also signing Thybulle and Grant... it will be a big waste.

since Ant isn't a great asset, it's pretty unlikely his trade value is that of great asset. Ant is like a lot of NBA players: he does a couple of things well and does a couple of things poorly. He's an average player and average players don't normally get traded for great returns. Often it's for another average player that fits better; or for some salary relief and draft asset(s)

 

[Hoopguru]

Graham wouldn't need to be part of that deal. The Spurs are just under the salary cap if they opt in on Graham, Champagnie and Bassey and sign all of their 4 draft picks but one of those four or both second rounders could be two ways because the three opt ins and two first rounders put them at 14 players on the roster. I know they could have 15. All that I'm saying is we'd only have to take Graham if we wanted him.

As far as the trade goes, I love it for us but I think the Spurs likely value Sochan and Champagnie more than both picks 4 and 8 in this draft. I'm pretty sure they could get Ant easily for the 4th pick and might be able to pry him away for the 8th... allowing them to keep Sochan, Champagnie and at least one lotto pick. I'd love to be wrong... Champagnie and even more so Sochan are definitely the type of guys we need and they have proven they can already play decently at the NBA level.

Yeah, SA prob wouldn't go for it but if we could get either Sochan or Chapagnie and some? Graham was in the deal to make salaries work.

 

[Reep]

since Ant isn't a great asset, it's pretty unlikely his trade value is that of great asset. Ant is like a lot of NBA players: he does a couple of things well and does a couple of things poorly. He's an average player and average players don't normally get traded for great returns. Often it's for another average player that fits better; or for some salary relief and draft asset(s)

I don't completely agree with this. Ant is very athletic and has shown the ability to make clutch shots. Last year he shot above 38% on threes at almost 9 attempts/game. A team looking for outside shooting from a player with some ability to distribute and not be totally embarrassing on defense could want him. I do agree his higher contract subtracts from his value.

 

[Tince]

After Ant gets traded, when do we start speculating where Sharpe will be traded?

 

[RR7]

After Ant gets traded, when do we start speculating where Sharpe will be traded?

next offseason, I imagine.

 

[Hoopguru]

next offseason, I imagine.

Yep, we are a junior training ground for NBA players. GPlus team.

 

[wizenheimer]

I don't completely agree with this. Ant is very athletic and has shown the ability to make clutch shots. Last year he shot above 38% on threes at almost 9 attempts/game. A team looking for outside shooting from a player with some ability to distribute and not be totally embarrassing on defense could want him. I do agree his higher contract subtracts from his value.

I'm not sure what you aren't agreeing with...?

I basically said Ant is an average player who does some things well and other things poorly, and that would control his trade value. I can certainly make a strong statistical case for Ant being average

 

[Rastapopoulos]

After Ant gets traded, when do we start speculating where Sharpe will be traded?

Given that we want Ant traded to free up the SG spot for Shaedon, I'm curious to know what player is making us want to trade Sharpe in this scenario.

 

[Tince]

Given that we want Ant traded to free up the SG spot for Shaedon, I'm curious to know what player is making us want to trade Sharpe in this scenario.

We were good letting Wes go to make room for CJ, before we wanted to trade CJ to make room for Ant, whom we are not wanting to trade to make room for Sharpe.

I'm noticing a pattern.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

We were good letting Wes go to make room for CJ, before we wanted to trade CJ to make room for Ant, whom we are not wanting to trade to make room for Sharpe.

I'm noticing a pattern.

But you're not answering the question.