Anfernee Simons trade destinations

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Where does Ant land?

  • Spurs

    Votes: 7 15.9%

  • Magic

    Votes: 14 31.8%

  • Nets

    Votes: 1 2.3%

  • Knicks

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Jazz

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Bulls

    Votes: 1 2.3%

  • Other

    Votes: 4 9.1%

  • Blazers 2024/25

    Votes: 17 38.6%
  • Total voters
    44
PtldPlatypus said:
I wouldn't be opposed to a Grant/Collins/Ayton frontcourt. My concern with that approach is basically that Scoot/Sharpe aren't ready to lead a team to the playoffs yet, so (as others have said), we'd still be a losing team, but not a losing-enough team for anything good to come of it.
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Any plan has its pitfalls. Our backcourt guys would have to hit a 3 year or so maturing window. But there’s Brogdon and Thybulle as reserves, so I think hitting the playoffs within a couple of years is not unrealistic. I’d rather take that shot than waste 3-4 years of Scoot’s and Sharpe’s young careers.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
According to a Jazz beat writer, the cost to acquire Markkanen is "Something like four or five first-round picks, and a star-level talent coming over". Brogdon and the picks we have available to deal (given the Chicago liability) likely won't get us there.
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So the cost is more than Donovan Mitchell, Paul George, Anthony Davis, or Kevin Durant all were traded for?

I highly doubt that Ainge shill is giving us a true cost - it's more like the opening negotiations.
 
e_blazer said:
I have to admit that Collins was my first thought. Also have to admit that there’s not a deep pool to draw upon at PF. I’ve always liked Bobby Portis’s game, but he’s 29 so not really the guy for the future.
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Teams just aren't going to give up a young two way starting level forward for a limited defense backup guard.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I wouldn't be opposed to a Grant/Collins/Ayton frontcourt. My concern with that approach is basically that Scoot/Sharpe aren't ready to lead a team to the playoffs yet, so (as others have said), we'd still be a losing team, but not a losing-enough team for anything good to come of it.
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I just don't understand any fans that think 10 months after trading away the teams franchise player to rebuild that the team would trade for veterans to win now.

Add to that an epic draft next year.

It makes zero sense.
 
e_blazer said:
Any plan has its pitfalls. Our backcourt guys would have to hit a 3 year or so maturing window. But there’s Brogdon and Thybulle as reserves, so I think hitting the playoffs within a couple of years is not unrealistic. I’d rather take that shot than waste 3-4 years of Scoot’s and Sharpe’s young careers.
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The Thunder committed 100% to a rebuild, and very aggressively, then had a stretch of only TWO major losing seasons.

Dipping toes in the water of a rebuild causes much more losing in the long run.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
So adding Markkanen raises our wins from 21 to 55?

Impressive how we added him without trading away salary.
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Markkanen coupled with a backup Center in Edey and using our 7th pick to get a wing (Holland) to play behind Grant. Our backcourt will need the experience of Ant and Brogdan to offer stability for Scoot and Sharpe’s maturation. I would consider combining our two second round picks and moving up some with a focus upon drafting either the best PF available or best true point guard available, however I was impressed with Banton’s play at PG and love his size. I would go as far as to start and groom Banton as our PG of the future and trade Scoot and #7 pick and move up to #2 and try to obtain Ricacher or Sarr! Alternatively, if Utah is not interested in a Markkanen trade with us, then consider trading Anfernee & Williams to the Knicks for Randle and one of NY’s two first round picks (24 or 25). Take 25 + 34 + 40 and trade up to to get best available between say 15-19th. We don’t need an overload of picks
 
Boomchakalaka2 said:
Markkanen coupled with a backup Center in Edey and using our 7th pick to get a wing (Holland) to play behind Grant. Our backcourt will need the experience of Ant and Brogdan to offer stability for Scoot and Sharpe’s maturation. I would consider combining our two second round picks and moving up some with a focus upon drafting either the best PF available or best true point guard available, however I was impressed with Banton’s play at PG and love his size. I would go as far as to start and groom Banton as our PG of the future and trade Scoot and #7 pick and move up to #2 and try to obtain Ricacher or Sarr! Alternatively, if Utah is not interested in a Markkanen trade with us, then consider trading Anfernee & Williams to the Knicks for Randle and one of NY’s two first round picks (24 or 25). Take 25 + 34 + 40 and trade up to to get best available between say 15-19th. We don’t need an overload of picks
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You really need to start adjusting your trade proposals to make them something you see as significant overpays on the Blazers' part if you want anyone in this forum to respond to them with any degree of seriousness.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
The Thunder committed 100% to a rebuild, and very aggressively, then had a stretch of only TWO major losing seasons.

Dipping toes in the water of a rebuild causes much more losing in the long run.
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If the Blazers in trading Dame had matched the haul the Thunder got for Paul George, that might be a good comparison. I don’t see any SGA plus 5 first rounders and two pick swaps in the Blazers asset list.
 
Boomchakalaka2 said:
I’m just confused - Anfernee Simons just turned 25 two weeks ago. We have invested in his grooming and he has become a lights-out shooter who can catch and shoot as well as create his own shot. He is light years better than Scoot and Sharpe - neither of whom don’t play any better defense than Ant…..and now he’s a “vet” that we need to move? Quite frankly Scoot is a bust and while I have seen bursts of exciting athleticism out of Sharp, I just don’t have interest, as a fan, to watch a team made up:
Scoot / Black / Banton
Sharpe / Brogdon / Thybulle
Camara / Knecht / Murray / Rupert
Walker / Buzelis / Walker
Duren / Carter / RW3

Speaking of “horrific,” this group will be seller dwellers for years to come, winning maybe 20 games a year until such time that if even one or two of these guys should rise after the baking, their contracts will be up and they will head off to greener pastures.

Rebuild to win. Bring along some young guys - like Ant, recognize when your draft pics are a bust and move them, and stop this fake-injury tanking shit that quite frankly is just awful to watch.
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Preach bro. You said exactly what I’m thinking. I don’t get people’s thoughts to move Ant for that Orlando package.

I get the notion some think the 3 guard line up isn’t ideal long term and one of the 3 out of Ant, Scoot and Sharpe need to go eventually.

But that package from Orlando with Black and WCJ is garbage and I don’t get it one bit.
 
e_blazer said:
If the Blazers in trading Dame had matched the haul the Thunder got for Paul George, that might be a good comparison. I don’t see any SGA plus 5 first rounders and two pick swaps in the Blazers asset list.
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Take out the Dame and George trades. Its all the other moves the Thunder did. They flipped Westbrook for CP3 and got extra draft picks. They later flipped CP3 to Phoenix and got draft picks. They added draft picks by taking on salary (instead of overpaying irrelevant players like Thybulle). They traded Danny Green for draft picks. They added Al Horford for a draft pick then traded him for value later. They somehow got in on Harden being traded to Philly and got draft picks. They acquired Derrick Favors for draft picks. They sent out Steven Adams for draft picks.

They also kept their cap sheet clean, so they have cap space to make things happen this summer while they were the #1 seed. Meanwhile the Blazers had the 3rd worst record in the league and are in the luxury tax from prioritizing irrelevant older role playing veterans.
 
Another one of my trade suggestions that nobody will like. Basically we unload Anfernee and Jerami and pick up Anthony Black and Houston's #3. We have to take on Fred VanVleet's massive salary, but (a) his contract has an out very soon, and (b) he's obviously an excellent veteran leader, given how the Rockets transformed when he arrived. So why would Houston want to unload him? Well, because they want to fast track Amen as a big PG? Because they don't need a traditional PG with the passing skills of Sengun and Green? Because they want to be able to start a huge defensive lineup of Green, Brooks, Grant, Jabari Smith, Sengun? I gave them a pick so they can draft one of the many PG prospects to develop if they want a trad. PG. Oh, and they also get the chance that Timelord is healthy, in which case they'd be scary.

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Orlando likes it because they offload Cole Anthony and keep their defensive bigs.
 

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Rastapopoulos said:
Another one of my trade suggestions that nobody will like. Basically we unload Anfernee and Jerami and pick up Anthony Black and Houston's #3. We have to take on Fred VanVleet's massive salary, but (a) his contract has an out very soon, and (b) he's obviously an excellent veteran leader, given how the Rockets transformed when he arrived. So why would Houston want to unload him? Well, because they want to fast track Amen as a big PG? Because they don't need a traditional PG with the passing skills of Sengun and Green? Because they want to be able to start a huge defensive lineup of Green, Brooks, Grant, Jabari Smith, Sengun? I gave them a pick so they can draft one of the many PG prospects to develop if they want a trad. PG. Oh, and they also get the chance that Timelord is healthy, in which case they'd be scary.

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Orlando likes it because they offload Cole Anthony and keep their defensive bigs.
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So at the end of the day, we would end up with Black, #3, #7, and #18. Depending on who is there at #3 and who we get for Van Vleet..... that's not bad at all.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Another one of my trade suggestions that nobody will like. Basically we unload Anfernee and Jerami and pick up Anthony Black and Houston's #3. We have to take on Fred VanVleet's massive salary, but (a) his contract has an out very soon, and (b) he's obviously an excellent veteran leader, given how the Rockets transformed when he arrived. So why would Houston want to unload him? Well, because they want to fast track Amen as a big PG? Because they don't need a traditional PG with the passing skills of Sengun and Green? Because they want to be able to start a huge defensive lineup of Green, Brooks, Grant, Jabari Smith, Sengun? I gave them a pick so they can draft one of the many PG prospects to develop if they want a trad. PG. Oh, and they also get the chance that Timelord is healthy, in which case they'd be scary.

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Orlando likes it because they offload Cole Anthony and keep their defensive bigs.
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I actually love this trade especially if we can flip FVV for anything that fits our rebuild. Like @Pinwheel1 said sending out Ant, Jerami, Delano, Rob and pick 14 for FVV, Black and picks 3 and 18 would be a home run for us.
 
I hope he doesn't get traded. Then my NBA Jam shirt will be fully obsolete.

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blazerkor said:
I actually love this trade especially if we can flip FVV for anything that fits our rebuild. Like @Pinwheel1 said sending out Ant, Jerami, Delano, Rob and pick 14 for FVV, Black and picks 3 and 18 would be a home run for us.
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Black as the playmaking bigger guard who defends? YES. An Orlando trade is doable.
3 — if it’s Sarr or Risacher then definitely, YES. Others? Okay.
18 — useful player
7 — Salaun or Williams or …

FLIPS — FVV [$42.85 MM], Malcolm [$22.5 MM] — by February — or reduce team salary.

Bigs — Ayton, Reath, Badji
Forwards — Camara, Walker, Thybulle, Murray
Guards — Scoot, Sharpe, Black, Rupert

#3 / #7 / #18 / #34 / #40
 
AmirIcon said:
Jackson Gatlin, host of Locked on Rockets just said he would absolutely give up #3 pick and filler for Ant. He doesn't know about the fit but he was enthusiastic about that deal.

Ant for the rights to Sarr? I like it!
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I saw that and its Simons, 7 & 14 for 3 that he'd jump on.....lol
 
e_blazer said:
If the Blazers in trading Dame had matched the haul the Thunder got for Paul George, that might be a good comparison. I don’t see any SGA plus 5 first rounders and two pick swaps in the Blazers asset list.
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We’ve already had two pitiful seasons and I don’t care to watch two or three more.
 
My newest dumb idea:

Portland out: simons, 14
In: jett Howard, 11, Our pick back, '25 Denver pick, '25 pick of Philly or Miami

Magic in: simons
Out: Howard, WCJ, 18, '25 Denver pick k

Chicago in: 12, 18
Out: 11, PDX pick

OKC in: 14, WCJ
Okc out: 12, Philly or Miami '25 pick

Magic pay a decent price, but get their backcourt shooter to pair with a solid young frontcourt.

Chicago continues on their rebuild, only move down one spot, add an additional pick, while giving up a pick that may never convey.

OKC gets a great pairing alongside chet up front, for only sliding down 2 spots, and a future 1st of which they have hundreds. Couldn't remember exact protections, but maybe we say more favorable of okc. Miami or Philly pick.

Portland moved up 3 spots in this draft, gains a meh prospect, add 2 picks in next year's draft, and regain control of our picks going forward
 
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