Anfernee Simons trade destinations

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Where does Ant land?

  • Spurs

    Votes: 7 15.9%

  • Magic

    Votes: 14 31.8%

  • Nets

    Votes: 1 2.3%

  • Knicks

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Jazz

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Bulls

    Votes: 1 2.3%

  • Other

    Votes: 4 9.1%

  • Blazers 2024/25

    Votes: 17 38.6%
  • Total voters
    44
BIG Q said:
There doesn't seem to be a market for him so of course Cronin isn't interested in trading Ant. He is a Blazer until a player gets injured off another club most likely.
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At least in that case, we would get value back. But IMO the only negative about Ant is that he makes about 5-7 million too much for a shooter coming off the bench. That is his perfect role and he would be great at it for another 7-9 years.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I'm fully convinced at this point that Cronin is not interested in trading Ant--for the moment, at least.
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So. Is he our starter? And if so, at the 1 or the 2? And if it's the 2, does that make Shae our starting 3 or on the bench?
 
Rastapopoulos said:
So. Is he our starter? And if so, at the 1 or the 2? And if it's the 2, does that make Shae our starting 3 or on the bench?
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Yes, he's our starter, and at the 1, but not actually the 1, because Deni will run the offense. At least, that's what I'd do if I were Chauncey. But as has been stated ad nauseum, anything we laymen say we would do differently than the professionals in the positions we critique is ridiculous, so feel free to ignore my opinion.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
So. Is he our starter? And if so, at the 1 or the 2? And if it's the 2, does that make Shae our starting 3 or on the bench?
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Ugh! That would just be setting Shaedon up to have a harder time getting better at defense. Keeping Ant is a nightmare because if he hasn't been sold on Scoot and Shaedon being this team's future and hasn't been told that there is no more Ant on 5 basketball like we saw a lot last season then he's going to hurt Scoot and Shaedon on offense and we already know that Ant hurts everyone on his team on defense.
 
blazerkor said:
Ugh! That would just be setting Shaedon up to have a harder time getting better at defense. Keeping Ant is a nightmare because if he hasn't been sold on Scoot and Shaedon being this team's future and hasn't been told that there is no more Ant on 5 basketball like we saw a lot last season then he's going to hurt Scoot and Shaedon on offense and we already know that Ant hurts everyone on his team on defense.
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Don't worry, in Cronin press con for Clingan, he said the Blazers are invested in Scoot and Shaedon. Din't mention Ant. Kept Banton. Ant will be moved but only for the right return, this summer or by deadline.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Yes, he's our starter, and at the 1, but not actually the 1, because Deni will run the offense. At least, that's what I'd do if I were Chauncey. But as has been stated ad nauseum, anything we laymen say we would do differently than the professionals in the positions we critique is ridiculous, so feel free to ignore my opinion.
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I think if we have a point forward on the floor then Ant is a better option next to him than Scoot. I am just not sure Deni is a pt forward. But then again I have never seen him play other than the highlights.

He looks like a forward who has above-average handles, not someone who can run an offense. But I guess alongside Ant and Shae maybe they don't need someone to run the offense Maybe they just need 3 decent ball handlers on the court together that can also shoot. Regardless to me, it is just one scenario that could be used. Not the only scenario.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Yes, he's our starter, and at the 1, but not actually the 1, because Deni will run the offense. At least, that's what I'd do if I were Chauncey. But as has been stated ad nauseum, anything we laymen say we would do differently than the professionals in the positions we critique is ridiculous, so feel free to ignore my opinion.
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So Scoot off the bench? Even after trading Brogdon?
 
Honestly the more I think about it the more I’m convinced Ant would be the ideal Crawford off the bench. A guy who can light it up off the bench and give you instant offense while still being able to run the team.

As a coach you are faced with tough decisions like this and have to do what’s best for the team. I would start out the year with Ant coming off the bench! Pop and Kerr both did this with some of their stars. Tough pill to swallow for Ant but sorry….not sorry
 
inconceivable said:
Don't worry, in Cronin press con for Clingan, he said the Blazers are invested in Scoot and Shaedon. Din't mention Ant. Kept Banton. Ant will be moved but only for the right return, this summer or by deadline.
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That was a dumbass thing to do unless you already had a trade for Simons locked up.
 
1 Eye Jack said:
Honestly the more I think about it the more I’m convinced Ant would be the ideal Crawford off the bench. A guy who can light it up off the bench and give you instant offense while still being able to run the team.

As a coach you are faced with tough decisions like this and have to do what’s best for the team. I would start out the year with Ant coming off the bench! Pop and Kerr both did this with some of their stars. Tough pill to swallow for Any but right decision for the team
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Crawford was a massive loser everywhere he went. Maybe that's the problem.

Also, I get the feeling Chauncey buys into the idea of the pecking order and wouldn't go for that.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Crawford was a massive loser everywhere he went. Maybe that's the problem.

Also, I get the feeling Chauncey buys into the idea of the pecking order and wouldn't go for that.
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I agree on Crawford bad example I hated his game
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Crawford was a massive loser everywhere he went. Maybe that's the problem.

Also, I get the feeling Chauncey buys into the idea of the pecking order and wouldn't go for that.
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It could've been, but with Ant nearing his extension window, you could easily dress that up as a negotiating ploy (which it actually could have been).
 
PtldPlatypus said:
If I were running things, yes. If Scoot shows the ability to at least be average NBA starter level, then I would adjust my opinion.
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Dude needs those reps man. He's very talented and seems very motivated. Experience is the best teacher not watching some dude hog the ball and even while playing with you (that goes for Scoot and Shae) take your reps.

Maybe Chauncey has more control over the situation than I estimate and we'll see a much different Ant next season but is Ant the long term solution off the bench with Scoot and Shae and if not are we doing damage to his trade value if we ask him to shoot less and dominate the ball less?

Keeping Ant around and Jerami if he's not on his way out the door, create a lot of problematic areas that I'm not sure Chauncey is ready to navigate. As always we'll just have to wait and see.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Hell fucking yes.
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And hopefully he learns a lot doing it. I would love this season to have the opposite trajectory of last season. We should start the seasons 6-28 and go 15-33 from there on... or something along those lines instead of the reverse.
 
KingSpeed said:
He literally WON multiple 6th Man of the Year awards.
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Which is an indictment of the award not a feather in his cap. They literally just look at ppg and give it to the non-starter with the highest.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
If Anfernee was half the player Ginobili was I wouldn't dream of trading him
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We either dismiss Ant coming off the bench becomes he won't want to, or we dismiss it because he is not as good as an all-star (Ginobli) who once did. Ant does not need to be an all-star to be effective off the bench for us. He is young and he has a skill that we can always use. If we find someone better off the bench then we move him. It's not like his value is so high right now that we would be foolish to wait.
 
What's the rush to trade Simons. I think people need to cool it a bit.

Anfernee could easily become the next Damian Lillard, in terms of scoring talent. He's 24 and Dame really hit his stride when he was 26. Also, as of right now, Scoot sucks on both ends of the floor and we have on guarantee that he'll get better.

Ant's value won't go down, it'll only go up (unless he like tears his achilles or something)
 
wizenheimer said:
it's true that Ant is more efficient in a raw comparison. But the missing context changes the picture quite a bit:

* this season, Ant's TS% was .568; and the NBA median was .579
* in Monta's 6th season his TS% was .536. But the NBA median was .539 (yes, it's gone up by that much)

in other words. Ant's TS mark was 98% of the league median; Monta's was 99% of the median

Monta was also a much better defender. His career DBPM was -0.3. Ant's is -2.3. After 6 season's Monta's VORP was +5.9. Ant's is +1.1. But the Warriors knew that Monta was standing in the way of a Curry/Klay back court
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Damian Lillard's TS% was 56% when he was 24. And Simons is a much better passer than many on this forum give him credit for.

Blazers Uprise aptly pointed out that Simons was guarded last year like a super-star.
 
Gut feeling…. Anfernee’s trade destination is you’re Portland Trailblazers
 
beast crnjo said:
What's the rush to trade Simons. I think people need to cool it a bit.

Anfernee could easily become the next Damian Lillard, in terms of scoring talent. He's 24 and Dame really hit his stride when he was 26. Also, as of right now, Scoot sucks on both ends of the floor and we have on guarantee that he'll get better.

Ant's value won't go down, it'll only go up (unless he like tears his achilles or something)
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Scoot was better than Ant at defense last season... just think about that for a bit. Scoot also showed a much better ability to facilitate for others on offense last season.

So yeah, Ant is better at going one on five. He's the better scorer obviously. I just worry that Chauncey will want to have Ant on the floor a lot and that Chauncey won't keep Ant from dominating the ball the way he did last season and that will be detrimental to the development of Scoot and Shaedon.

I'm not advocating giving Ant away, I just hope we're shopping him.
 
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