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illmatic99 said:
Here's the transcript, err summary as per the WH.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf

meh. Why is Rudy involved?
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It is not verbatim transcript which is what should have been released. Hopefully, the House subpoenas the full recording/transcript.

As it is, this partial dictation is pretty damming itself. The Ukraine President asks where the promised aid is (that Trump is witholding) Trump then asks for a favor. He asks the Ukraine leader to open an investigation into one of Clinton's servers(really?) and into Joe Biden, one of his opponents in the 2020 election.

Trump admitted it pubicly. It is a matter of public record. It is here written in this partial transcript. (Looks like his guys in the white house messed up in removing all the damming stuff)

We shall see what happens. Looks like the House will impeach Trump and the Senate will either habe its hand forced or will continue to be complicit with Trump. That won't look good for Republicans in 2020.
 
Chris Craig said:
It is not verbatim transcript which is what should have been released. Hopefully, the House subpoenas the full recording/transcript.

As it is, this partial dictation is pretty damming itself. The Ukraine President asks where the promised aid is (that Trump is witholding) Trump then asks for a favor. He asks the Ukraine leader to open an investigation into one of Clinton's servers(really?) and into Joe Biden, one of his opponents in the 2020 election.

Trump admitted it pubicly. It is a matter of public record. It is here written in this partial transcript. (Looks like his guys in the white house messed up in removing all the damming stuff)

We shall see what happens. Looks like the House will impeach Trump and the Senate will either habe its hand forced or will continue to be complicit with Trump. That won't look good for Republicans in 2020.
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After the Mueller report shit, I'm not certain of anything anymore.
 
illmatic99 said:
After the Mueller report shit, I'm not certain of anything anymore.
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The Mueller report clearly found at least 10 cases of obstruction. I would like to see this administration truly be as transparent as they keep claiming to be and turn over all the info and quit stonewalling anyone that is asked to testify. What are they always hiding?
 
illmatic99 said:
After the Mueller report shit, I'm not certain of anything anymore.
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The difference is in the Mueller report it was backdoor godfather type shit with all his goons doing the dirty work and perhaps little directly pointing to him.

This time he directly did this. He was caught with his pants down. There is direct evidence. He admitted it pubicly.
 
Chris Craig said:
The difference is in the Mueller report it was backdoor godfather type shit with all his goons doing the dirty work and perhaps little directly pointing to him.

This time he directly did this. He was caught with his pants down. There is direct evidence. He admitted it pubicly.
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I really hope an undoctored transcript is released and it shows whatever quid pro quo if it's there. Cuz this summary alone isn't THAT damning to get the 2/3 majority in the Senate to kick him out. Looking forward the whistelblower's testimony.
 
illmatic99 said:
I really hope an undoctored transcript is released and it shows whatever quid pro quo if it's there. Cuz this summary alone isn't THAT damning to get the 2/3 majority in the Senate to kick him out. Looking forward the whistelblower's testimony.
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I think the summary is smokey enough that there is more to the story.

They weren't too smart in how this transcript goes.
 
Yeah so far I see nothing that will get Trump impeached.
 
illmatic99 said:
I really hope an undoctored transcript is released and it nkshows whatever quid pro quo if it's there. Cuz this summary alone isn't THAT damning to get the 2/3 majority in the Senate to kick him out. Looking forward the whistelblower's testimony.
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I hope so too. I think this transcript provides good kindling for the fire. I am also looking forward to the whistleblowers' testimony. I am sure the hearing will be in private to protect their identity. Too bad we won't know who it is. Deep Throat 2.0? Or was that Monica? I guess 3.0 then.
 
illmatic99 said:
Dems definitely need to be strategic in how they proceed with this. If it takes 45 out, it might also take Biden out. (honestly, I'd be OK with that).
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I don't want Biden to be the nominee anyway
 
I don't care if Biden goes down too, but there is no actual evidence to suggest wrongdoing on Biden's part as of now.

Trump, however.... ha ha ha. What a moron.

barfo
 
tlongII said:
Yeah so far I see nothing that will get Trump impeached.
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It's not just this one thing though as it's a combination of things that individually might not be impeachable but when added together makes an impeachment possible. It just never ends with this president.
 
barfo said:
I don't care if Biden goes down too, but there is no actual evidence to suggest wrongdoing on Biden's part as of now.

Trump, however.... ha ha ha. What a moron.

barfo
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Biden’s toast anyway. He just comes across as too out of date and befuddled at times. Politically, he’s the person I’d most likely vote for, so from that standpoint I would be disappointed to see a moderate go. How about Warren gets caught in the crossfire to take out a lefty and keep the field balanced?
 
e_blazer said:
Biden’s toast anyway. He just comes across as too out of date and befuddled at times. Politically, he’s the person I’d most likely vote for, so from that standpoint I would be disappointed to see a moderate go. How about Warren gets caught in the crossfire to take out a lefty and keep the field balanced?
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I can't go for that, but I can offer you a slightly used Bernie as a sacrifice.

barfo
 
Lying Adam Schiff just totally lied about the content of the already published transcript. Lied about both sides of the conversation, trusting Dems ARE TOO INTELLECTUALLY LAZY TO READ IT.

Mueller2.0.
 
barfo said:
I can't go for that, but I can offer you a slightly used Bernie as a sacrifice.

barfo
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“Bernie is just ideologically a communist," Gundlach added. "He got thrown out of a commune for being too lazy back when he was young."
MARIS61 said:
Lying Adam Schiff just totally lied about the content of the already published transcript. Lied about both sides of the conversation, trusting Dems ARE TOO INTELLECTUALLY LAZY TO READ IT.

Mueller2.0.
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I'm really an unbiased independent but Adam Schiff seems very Shifty to me. I just want someone to put politics aside and get the truth.
 
MARIS61 said:
Lying Adam Schiff just totally lied about the content of the already published transcript. Lied about both sides of the conversation, trusting Dems ARE TOO INTELLECTUALLY LAZY TO READ IT.

Mueller2.0.
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Oh no. I fear you may have SDS. Schiff deranged syndrome. It is contagious so I suggest you (continue to) stay in your basement away from others.
 
This whole thing is yet another example of how bad Democrats are at this. This should be so goddamn easy to win. There is enough to blow Trump away. However, the right will go for the Biden/son issue and it goes from a 22% kind of dodgy thing into a 100% scandal. So head it off at the pass. Come out and investigate Biden. He either is guilty of something sketchy or he isnt. Take the wind out of the Republican sails - 'yeah, we agree, we should check into Joe too. lets do this. if he did something wrong he's done as well'. On to Warren for President. This is like the Warriors playing the fucking Hornets and its game 6 and they cant solve Marvin Williams. Its ridiculous Democrats cant figure this out. They dont need Biden. This should have started a long time ago. Create so much chaos with investigations into the corruption (there are probably fifty things that could fall under this) and flush this dufus out.
 
MARIS61 said:
It is not required in any legal sense, that is a lie.
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You are incorrect, there is a law. It is 50 USC § 3033

(A)
The Inspector General shall report immediately to the Director whenever the Inspector General becomes aware of particularly serious or flagrant problems, abuses, or deficiencies relating to programs and activities within the responsibility and authority of the Director of National Intelligence.
(B) The Director shall transmit to the congressional intelligence committees each report under subparagraph (A) within 7 calendar days of receipt of such report, together with such comments as the Director considers appropriate.
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barfo
 
Hoopguru said:
I'm really an unbiased independent but Adam Schiff seems very Shifty to me. I just want someone to put politics aside and get the truth.
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You are not really unbiased then, you just think you are.

barfo
 
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