OT Antarctic ice loss has tripled in a decade. If that continues, we are in serious trouble

[barfo]

Magnetic poles do affect the Earth's climate significantly. Mars lost it's magnetic poles and solar winds then wiped away most of the atmosphere. The poles are vital to our climate.

In the short run, I'd have to agree with you.

Sure, but (a) that's magnetic poles disappearing altogether, not just moving around, and (b) it supposedly took 500 million years after that for the atmosphere to dissipate, and (c) the poles disappeared because the planet's core cooled.

None of that is relevant to human-observable climate change on earth.

barfo

 

[oldfisherman]

I don't trust any of them!
Well, it is my knowledge of them, where I lack trust.

I carry two mushroom ID books. I live in an area with a very large variety of mushrooms. There have been times I could see over a dozen varieties from one spot.

I'm lucky if I can find pictures and ID descriptions for 10% of them that I am 100% sure of.

 

[barfo]

Geographic poles don't mean shit, why did you even bring them up? Irrelevant information you are using to split hairs. Magnetic poles move significantly AND affect the climate...SIGNIFICANTLY. It's a fact. No point trying to slide out of the stranglehold science has on your political agenda by using semantics.

I appreciate that you are unable to admit that you are wrong. But for those with an open mind on the subject:

The last time that Earth's poles flipped in a major reversal was about 780,000 years ago, in what scientists call the Brunhes-Matuyama reversal. The fossil record shows no drastic changes in plant or animal life. Deep ocean sediment cores from this period also indicate no changes in glacial activity, based on the amount of oxygen isotopes in the cores. This is also proof that a polarity reversal would not affect the rotation axis of Earth, as the planet's rotation axis tilt has a significant effect on climate and glaciation and any change would be evident in the glacial record.

barfo

 

[MarAzul]

I carry two mushroom ID books. I live in an area with a very large variety of mushrooms. There have been times I could see over a dozen varieties from one spot.

I'm lucky if I can find pictures and ID descriptions for 10% of them that I am 100% sure of.

Yes, there are many right here on my property, I think I can identify a few. Many I can not at all, in any book. Then there are those that look dang close to some that are good but... not quite.
I lack the faith.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

The best mushrooms are the ones you find in cow pastures.

 

[oldfisherman]

Yes, there are many right here on my property, I think I can identify a few. Many I can not at all, in any book. Then there are those that look dang close to some that are good but... not quite.
I lack the faith.

Those are not mushrooms. You have seagull droppings on seaweed.

Just joking, you described the problem of IDing mushrooms perfectly.

Best to play it safe, and stay healthy and alive.

 

[riverman]

Oh Trump is exterminating entire species now?

His hairspray alone could probably achieve that....they'll only be species that live near golf courses though

 

[MARIS61]

This has been happening since the ice age.

When nature stops changing, even for a second, that's when we're in trouble.

 

[Hoopguru]

His hairspray alone could probably achieve that....they'll only be species that live near golf courses though

Ask MJ how much bus and progress is made on the gc!

 

[jlprk]

You don't value nature, just the manmade world? You see nature as something to be conquered and controlled? Then you should oppose Republicans and side with environmentalists:

It doesn't matter whether a natural phenonemon has occurred many times before, destroying a lot of nature, and making humans suffer. What matters is whether we now have the technology to TAKE CONTROL of that phenonemon, and save ourselves a lot of destruction of 1) the manmade world, which cost us hundreds of trillions of dollars to build, and BONUS! 2) a lot of nature.

 

[Lanny]

The mycologist master that taught the Mt Pisgah classes for years died from slicing his hand cutting a poisonous mushroom...my wife went to that camp years ago..it only takes one mistake...I stick to 4 or 5 varieties I know I can trust

You can trust me.

 

[Lanny]

Oh Trump is exterminating entire species now? Lol. Your hysteria alone is enough to discredit the things you say.

I see your point. What good are the unusual plants and animals. All we need are the ones we eat.

Hysteria:
a psychoneurosis marked by emotional excitability and disturbances of the psychogenic, sensory, vasomotor, and visceral (see visceral 4) functions

behavior exhibiting overwhelming or unmanageable fear or emotional excess

• political hysteria

• The plague had caused mass hysteria in the village.

hyperbole:
extravagant exaggeration (such as "mile-high ice-cream cones")

 

[jonnyboy]

I see your point. What good are the unusual plants and animals. All we need are the ones we eat.

Hysteria:
a psychoneurosis marked by emotional excitability and disturbances of the psychogenic, sensory, vasomotor, and visceral (see visceral 4) functions

behavior exhibiting overwhelming or unmanageable fear or emotional excess

• political hysteria

• The plague had caused mass hysteria in the village.

hyperbole:
extravagant exaggeration (such as "mile-high ice-cream cones")

Thanks for proving my point?
Now provide a link to the source that proves Donald Trump is somehow eradicating entire species.

 

[theprunetang]

Yes, there are many right here on my property, I think I can identify a few. Many I can not at all, in any book. Then there are those that look dang close to some that are good but... not quite.
I lack the faith.

The best book for mushroom identification on the west coast is Mushrooms Demystified by David Arora, who I had the pleasure of going on a mushroom foray with.

There is no book that has every species, but his is the closest one to being The definitive mushroom bible.

Ps. I was a mycology major at OSU.

 

[Lanny]

Thanks for proving my point?
Now provide a link to the source that proves Donald Trump is somehow eradicating entire species.

Say, what? Please don't put words in my mouth.

 

[Lanny]

The Antarctic is diminishing per Dr. Benjamin Strauss, President and CEO of Climate Central, as reported in PBS The News Hour last night. The gravitational pull of the Antarctic is weakening. Sea levels are predicted to rise 3 ft. to 6 ft by 2100..

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/sea-levels-could-rise-three-feet-by-2100-study-projects

 

[PDXFonz]

News flash, we are already in serious trouble.

 

[julius]

The Antarctic is diminishing per Dr. Benjamin Strauss, President and CEO of Climate Central, as reported in PBS The News Hour last night. The gravitational pull of the Antarctic is weakening. Sea levels are predicted to rise 3 ft. to 6 ft by 2100..

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/sea-levels-could-rise-three-feet-by-2100-study-projects

well, I won't be alive in the year 2100, so melt away.

 

[riverman]

well, I won't be alive in the year 2100, so melt away.

you'd sell a lot of those T shirts ….have them printed in red

 

[MARIS61]

https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources-greenhouse-gas-emissions

 

[Lanny]

https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources-greenhouse-gas-emissions

Greenhouse gasses do not go away for thousands of years. That means they're steadily building up even if their production is decreased.

At this point, we have to think of mitigation and not roll back.