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Rastapopoulos said:
The Pelicans' front office right now:
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Lets look at the Pelicans haul for Anthony Davis;

Brandon Ingram
Lonzo Ball
Josh Hart
2019 #4 pick (De'Andre Hunter)
2022 #8 pick (Dyson Daniels)
2023 pick swap unprotected
2024 or 2025 pick unprotected (Pelicans choice)

So the Lakers could have to send Wemba to the Pelicans this summer; and still have to give another top lottery pick in 2024 or 2025. That was a crazy big haul for the Pelicans; back when Davis was on an expiring contract and no other destinations.

At the time people said "yeah but Lakers will be good for the next decade so those picks are worth little".

You never know what will happen; same as the Nets - Celtics trade. Those picks and swaps many years out can be worth a ton.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
Lets look at the Pelicans haul for Anthony Davis;

Brandon Ingram
Lonzo Ball
Josh Hart
2019 #4 pick (De'Andre Hunter)
2022 #8 pick (Dyson Daniels)
2023 pick swap unprotected
2024 or 2025 pick unprotected (Pelicans choice)

So the Lakers could have to send Wemba to the Pelicans this summer; and still have to give another top lottery pick in 2024 or 2025. That was a crazy big haul for the Pelicans; back when Davis was on an expiring contract and no other destinations.

At the time people said "yeah but Lakers will be good for the next decade so those picks are worth little".

You never know what will happen; same as the Nets - Celtics trade. Those picks and swaps many years out can be worth a ton.
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it's fun to clown on the lakers and i revel in it, but they traded about 10 yrs of future potential for a single title.

are we really saying we all wouldn't do that?
 
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illmatic99 said:
it's fun to clown on the lakers and i revel in it, but they traded about 10 yrs of future potential for a single title.

are we really saying we all wouldn't do that?
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I absolutely would not do that....not for 5 years.
 
BassPlaya said:
I absolutely would not do that....not for 5 years.
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i'm torn. the legacy of one championship lasts much longer than 5-10 yrs of misery. in the long run, we might not even remember horrible basketball for a stretch of years. but we will always remember a title.
 
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illmatic99 said:
it's fun to clown on the lakers and i revel in it, but they traded about 10 yrs of future potential for a single title.

are we really saying we all wouldn't do that?
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Yes they got the one title so yes you can say it was the right move and all worth it. So it worked out for them. But when making that trade there is no guarantee of a title. Who knew the bubble would happen so LBJ and AD could rest up?

Lakers had LBJ at that time plus a ton of young talented players many of whom since have been all stars; they might have got 3 titles if they just kept that group together, stayed away from Davis, and done minor MLE additions. But now the Lakers have many years of shit teams ahead, little picks, capped out and no future.

Plenty of other teams have made this win now gamble and lost. Nets with KG and Pierce; Clippers with Kawhi and Paul George (outcome uncertain but they have a ton of downside), Nets with Harden, Minnesota, Philly, Cleveland, etc. I guess you could include Milwaukee getting Jrue too, and they got a title so maybe the risk here is worth the reward. But there is a ton of very costly risk when mortgaging a franchise distant future picks for an aging allstar.
 
illmatic99 said:
i'm torn. the legacy of one championship lasts much longer than 5-10 yrs of misery. in the long run, we might not even remember horrible basketball for a stretch of years. but we will always remember a title.
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Is the Lakers situation different from other franchises? This was one of 18 titles they won, so its not a once in a lifetime memory as the '77 Blazers title is to many in Portland.

Is that bubble title worth a half decade or longer of futility to Lakers fans?

Who knows; but I'm going to enjoy every year that franchise sucks ass.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
Is the Lakers situation different from other franchises? This was one of 18 titles they won, so not like its a once in a lifetime memory as the 77 Blazers is to many.

Is that bubble title worth a half decade or longer of futility to Lakers fans?

Who knows; but I'm going to enjoy every year that franchise sucks ass.
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Theyve won 17, not 18.

And a lot of the Lakers fans I know hate Lebron on their team, as they do westbrook and Davis, and don't hold the 2020 title on the same level as others.
 
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Me every year watching a new season of Lakers fans hopes
 
julius said:
Theyve won 17, not 18.

And a lot of the Lakers fans I know hate Lebron on their team, as they do westbrook and Davis, and don't hold the 2020 title on the same level as others.
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that's them. if we could have one title run for Dame in Portland, i tend to think i would happily give up the next 5 yrs as one of the worst teams in the league.

dame still wears the 1977 hat for godsakes. a title here would mean so much more.

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julius said:
Theyve won 17, not 18.

And a lot of the Lakers fans I know hate Lebron on their team, as they do westbrook and Davis, and don't hold the 2020 title on the same level as others.
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Yeah list I had included the 1948 NBL title.
 
illmatic99 said:
that's them. if we could have one title run for Dame in Portland, i tend to think i would happily give up the next 5 yrs as one of the worst teams in the league.

dame still wears the 1977 hat for godsakes. a title here would mean so much more.
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Sure, if Dame wins it here as Dirk did in Dallas.

But if we sign Durant in the offseason and trade for Giannis how much would that title mean? Certainly much less IMO.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
Lets look at the Pelicans haul for Anthony Davis;

Brandon Ingram
Lonzo Ball
Josh Hart
2019 #4 pick (De'Andre Hunter)
2022 #8 pick (Dyson Daniels)
2023 pick swap unprotected
2024 or 2025 pick unprotected (Pelicans choice)

So the Lakers could have to send Wemba to the Pelicans this summer; and still have to give another top lottery pick in 2024 or 2025. That was a crazy big haul for the Pelicans; back when Davis was on an expiring contract and no other destinations.

At the time people said "yeah but Lakers will be good for the next decade so those picks are worth little".

You never know what will happen; same as the Nets - Celtics trade. Those picks and swaps many years out can be worth a ton.
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the problem with that list is many of the assets the Pels have already converted and not necessarily for the better. They could have had De'Andre Hunter, but they traded him away for essentially peanuts that included a 2nd round pick they were fortunate enough to use on Herbert Jones; Hunter is better though. They traded Lonzo Ball for Garret Temple, Satoransky, and a 2nd. Temple had a DNP-CD last night; so did Dyson Daniels

they traded Hart + two first's for CJ (one didn't convey because of PG covid). Then doubled down on CJ by giving him a big extension and may already be regretting that choice

Ingram is a good player but not as good as a healthy AD. And Ingram has a fairly extensive injury history of his own

maybe the biggest payoff will be a high draft pick next June; but that's 4 years after the trade and odds are decent that whoever they select with that pick won't start paying real dividends till 5-6 years after the AD trade. Which kind of illustrates that trading franchise player often don't ever pay off, and if they do it's usually years after the trade
 
Nurk+Nas+1st, and a condition 2nd 1st is as high as I'd go, and the Lakers would never take that.

Parenthetic note: Russ and most all of the rest of the team come off the books in the offseason.
 
illmatic99 said:
it's fun to clown on the lakers and i revel in it, but they traded about 10 yrs of future potential for a single title.

are we really saying we all wouldn't do that?
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It's easier to make those big gambles when you know you have a good shot of rebuilding through free agency and trade demands, e.g., Shaq and LeBron. And I suppose Kobe, to a lesser extent.
 
What are “consolidation” trades, really? Do they only include trades for a star that need multiple 1sts in addition to players?

Davis, I’m out on. Still a great defender, but at this point, anyone was a major injury-riddled track record should be avoided. Chris Broussard also pointed this out on FTF, Davis is more of a tweener these days. He’s not a good enough shooter to just play on the perimeter but he doesn’t want to play inside. KAT is a great enough of a shooter that Minni could rationalize making him a PF.

KD—I don’t want to mortgage too much of the future for him. Same with Bron.

Really, the only consolidation trades I think about this summer are for Embiid, Bam, Siakam or PG. If any of them became available, especially the first 3, you could rationalize giving up Ant +Nurk + 1sts to get.

Outside of them, why break up these pieces when there’s still a great deal of internal growth that can happen with this team? Outside of Embiid, Bam, and Siakam, there are no C’s that could be available that are worth trading multiple 1sts for. The next great bigs are the ones that probably haven’t been drafted yet. There was a time when Dwight was the single elite C, and Bynum and several notches below, then there was everyone else. The next generation became Embiid and Jokic, with Bam and maybe Gobert/Ayton (if you want to include them), then there’s everyone else. Right now, we know the next generation of bigs will probably be headlined by Mobley and Wemby, doesn’t it make more sense to have multiple cracks at finding the next great C in the draft rather than trade multiple 1sts for someone in the same tier as Nurk?
 
If there was any chance in hell that we could get Davis without giving up Dame I think he’s one of the few players in the league that would make us a title contender. I know he’s injury prone but if you can keep him healthy for short playoff window you got chance at a title.

do we have what it would take to get him doubtful but Simons/ (Nurk or Grant)/ plus pick or two. Might even cost you Sharpe ( that would be most painful part for me)

do we want him not sure but if you truly want a chance at a title he’s one of the few players in league who would make us title contenders.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
I'll throw one idea out there; Davis for Ant and Nurk.

Salaries match; although both those Blazers can't be traded until Jan 15th. Suspect Blazers have to throw in pick(s).

Davis - Eubanks
Grant - Winslow - Watford
Sharpe - Little - Walker
Hart - Keon
Dame - GP2
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That trade would make the Lakers better.
 
No mention of the Blazers. Look at these teams that are said to be interested in a 33 year old player, Ridiculous!

https://lakersnation.com/pistons-bojan-bogdanovic-trade-rumors-lakers-raptors-pelicans-bucks-cavaliers-mavericks-among-interested-teams/2023/01/18/amp/

The Raptors, Los Angeles Lakers, New Orleans Pelicans, Milwaukee Bucks, Cleveland Cavaliers and Dallas Mavericks are among the teams registering interest in Detroit’s Bojan Bogdanović, league sources say. The Pistons have maintained that they prefer to keep Bogdanović moving forward, but as The Athletic’s James Edwards III reported, the franchise is open to conversations, and it’s believed an unprotected first-round pick can pry Bogdanović out of Detroit.
 
BigGameDamian said:
No mention of the Blazers. Look at these teams that are said to be interested in a 33 year old player, Ridiculous!
https://lakersnation.com/pistons-bo...ericks-among-interested-teams/2023/01/18/amp/
https://lakersnation.com/pistons-bo...ericks-among-interested-teams/2023/01/18/amp/

The Raptors, Los Angeles Lakers, New Orleans Pelicans, Milwaukee Bucks, Cleveland Cavaliers and Dallas Mavericks are among the teams registering interest in Detroit’s Bojan Bogdanović, league sources say. The Pistons have maintained that they prefer to keep Bogdanović moving forward, but as The Athletic’s James Edwards III reported, the franchise is open to conversations, and it’s believed an unprotected first-round pick can pry Bogdanović out of Detroit.
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LOL...wut?..."an unprotected first-round pick"....for Bognanovic?

he'll turn 34 at the end of the season. He's a good player but he sure isn't worth an unprotected pick unless it's from a guaranteed playoff team
 
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Would this piss people off? I think I'd be excited. If AD passed a rigorous physical, this would be pretty cool. I'd take the gamble on his health. I realize we would be up against the tax and have to pick up another player just to have the roster minimum but just on it's own would people be cool with this or hate it?
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blazerkor said:
Would this piss people off? I think I'd be excited. If AD passed a rigorous physical, this would be pretty cool. I'd take the gamble on his health. I realize we would be up against the tax and have to pick up another player just to have the roster minimum but just on it's own would people be cool with this or hate it?
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Really is there any basketball fan that would dislike this trade? I mean AD is so much better at basketball than the other 2, it's not even close. Injury prone yes, but at least he gives us a chance. With the other 2 and the 38M they occupy we have 0 chance.
 
GiaDiama said:
Really is there any basketball fan that would dislike this trade? I mean AD is so much better at basketball than the other 2, it's not even close. Injury prone yes, but at least he gives us a chance. With the other 2 and the 38M they occupy we have 0 chance.
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Why would Laker fans like this? Why would their management do it?

STOMP
 
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