Anthony Parker?

[kobimel]

The Nets obviously need an upgrade at the SF spot. Simmons and Hayes are decent role players, one underachieving and one overachieving so far, but neither is starter material. I was reading ESPN's Weekend Dime today and came across this little tidbit of info:

It is nonetheless considered an inevitability in Toronto, as Colangelo ponders his wisest course, that two players whose last-year salaries weren't high enough to make our adjacent top-20 list -- Joey Graham ($2.4 million) and Colangelo favorite Anthony Parker ($4.6 million) -- are virtual locks to be moved before the Feb. 19 trading deadline, as well as last season's darling, Jamario Moon. Colangelo would prefer not to part with Parker, but the former Maccabi Tel-Aviv star's expiring contract would appear to be the Raptors' best trade chip.

Now, I'm a big fan of Parker. I got to watch him play back when he played for Maccabi many times, and he's definitely one of the best Euroleague players of this decade. He's been successful in Toronto as well for the past few years. He would be the perfect fit for us as the starting SF: he's a clutch performer, good defender, good shooter, a leader, basically a jack of all trades.

If I hadn't read Stein's article, I never would have even thought that Toronto would want to give him up. But what he says does make sense; Parker's contract is a great trade chip and Toronto are underachieving so far. Obviously, though, the Raptors would want something in return that would keep Bosh happy.

So I played around for a while with ESPN's trade checker and found a trade that works...with four teams:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/featur...14~28~12~28~28~14~12~12~12~14~12~17&te=&cash=

Nets Give: Bobby Simmons, Maurice Ager, Sean Williams, 2010 2nd round pick
Nets Get: Anthony Parker

Clippers Give: Chris Kaman, Jason Hart, Steve Novak
Clippers Get: Jason Kapono, Sean Williams, Kris Humphries, Joey Graham, Daequan Cook, Toronto 2009 1st round pick, Miami 2010 2nd round pick

Raptors Give: Anthony Parker, Jason Kapono, Kris Humphries, Joey Graham, Nathan Jawai, 2009 1st round pick
Raptors Get: Shawn Marion, Steve Novak, Maurice Ager, Nets 2010 2nd round pick

Heat Give: Shawn Marion, Daequan Cook
Heat Get: Chris Kaman, Bobby Simmons, Jason Hart, Nathan Jawai

Why do the Nets do this trade?

They get a solid starting SF in Parker whose contract expires in 2009. They will probably be able to extend his contract if they like with the vets minimum or part of the MLE. They don't give up too much to get him, other than Simmons' huge 2010 expiring contract and potential in Williams and the draft pick.

Why do the Clippers do this trade?

The Clippers were the most problematic team in this trade. I tried a lot of different scenarios in which they get more for giving Kaman. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any that work salary-wise. They do get a proven NBA player and one of the best shooters in the league in Kapono, a decent backup in Graham, 3 young players and two draft picks, one a 1st rounder. With Randolph on the team, Kaman in expendable. All 5 contracts they pick up expire either in 2009 or in 2010, giving them plenty of cap space for the free agent frenzy in the next two offseasons. They won't get a lot of value for Kaman in any trade, especially since they're shopping him and seem desperate. Cap space is their main motivator here, with the 5 contracts they pick up worth around $12 million expired by the 2010 offseason and giving them good trade chips for the next two years.

Why do the Raptors do this trade?

Marion fills in Parker's spot and gives the Raptors a star-studded roster for this season. Marion might take a pay cut to stick around if Bosh agrees to extend his contract, or if he doesn't the Raptors get nearly 20 million off the books this offseason and can sign a great FA. If all goes as expected with Marion this season, their 1st round pick this season shouldn't be too high.

Why do the Heat do this trade?

The Heat get a great center in Kaman and get great value for Marion. Simmons' contract expires in 2010, giving them space to resign Wade.

Seems like a solid trade all-around to me. Everyone seems to get something they need, though the Clippers get little actual value for Kaman...

 

[NOMAM]

Not sure how this trade works when the Nets are sending out 10+ million in contracts and getting back only 4.5 million.

But instead of Parker how about Marion coming the Nets way? Dump Simmons + Hassell using Sean and the pick from the Warriors and have $$$ for free agency next season.

 

[NOMAM]

Ok, what about this trade:

Nets send out: Simmons, Hassell, Sean, Pick from Warriors
Nets receive: Marion


Heat send out: Marion, Blount
Heat receive: Marbury , Curry, pick from Nets via Warriors.


Knicks send out: Marbury, Curry
Knicks receive: Simmons, Hassell, Blount, Sean,

 

[BrooklynBound]

Nice idea, but when's the last time you've heard of a four way trade?

 

[kdub]

I was reading Raptor blogs and comments after the Toronto-Nets game and almost everyone was complaining about Parker and how his defense is gone, is not clutch, and has recessed.

 

[FOMW]

I was reading Raptor blogs and comments after the Toronto-Nets game and almost everyone was complaining about Parker and how his defense is gone, is not clutch, and has recessed.

Was going to say the same thing. Fans not happy with Parker's game and downward progression. Not sure he has either the size or strength to play the three, either. He always matches up with opposing SGs in games I've seen.

On the other hand, Mike Miller upfaked a 3, dribbled in a couple of steps, and hit a clutch jumper to help the T-wolves snatch a last second win last night. He's got enough length, if not strength, to play the 3 defensively and enough skill to play the two or the three. He's 28, his contract expires summer of 2010, and he would solidify our starting offense as well as our depth. He's worth Sean and a protected 1st rounder, IMO, with Simmons as the money balancer.

 

[#1_War_Poet_ForLife]

Was going to say the same thing. Fans not happy with Parker's game and downward progression. Not sure he has either the size or strength to play the three, either. He always matches up with opposing SGs in games I've seen.

On the other hand, Mike Miller upfaked a 3, dribbled in a couple of steps, and hit a clutch jumper to help the T-wolves snatch a last second win last night. He's got enough length, if not strength, to play the 3 defensively and enough skill to play the two or the three. He's 28, his contract expires summer of 2010, and he would solidify our starting offense as well as our depth. He's worth Sean and a protected 1st rounder, IMO, with Simmons as the money balancer.

I think you're looking for this thread

 

[kdub]

Was going to say the same thing. Fans not happy with Parker's game and downward progression. Not sure he has either the size or strength to play the three, either. He always matches up with opposing SGs in games I've seen.

On the other hand, Mike Miller upfaked a 3, dribbled in a couple of steps, and hit a clutch jumper to help the T-wolves snatch a last second win last night. He's got enough length, if not strength, to play the 3 defensively and enough skill to play the two or the three. He's 28, his contract expires summer of 2010, and he would solidify our starting offense as well as our depth. He's worth Sean and a protected 1st rounder, IMO, with Simmons as the money balancer.

Forgot about that as well. Wouldn't Parker be small to play the 3 anyways? Unless kobimel is thinking about moving Vince to SF and Parker to the 2, but why not just use CDR or Hayes to do so?

 

[FOMW]

I think you're looking for this thread

You think that's too little for Miller? Okay. What is fair?

 

[#1_War_Poet_ForLife]

Whoa, I didn't even notice Miller's drop off in points. Your deal seems fair enough.

 

[User01]

Whoa, I didn't even notice Miller's drop off in points. Your deal seems fair enough.

his shots are down too, while his assists are way up. He's just too passive, really. Which, if he'd have Devin, Vince, Yi and Brook around him, thats probably good.

 

[#1_War_Poet_ForLife]

Turnovers are down too.

I'd love to have him as a bench sparkplug. Dooling+Anderson+Miller+Boone+Hayes is very nice.

 

[FOMW]

Turnovers are down too.

I'd love to have him as a bench sparkplug. Dooling+Anderson+Miller+Boone+Hayes is very nice.

I'd love to have him as a starter.

I'm not fooled by his points production. He made a statement in preseason that he was going to make playmaking more of a focal point. He's not had to be as aggressive a scorer with a big time post player on the team, something he didn't have in Memphis. He's still an elite shooter with good all round offensive skills. He's not known as any kind of defender, but I think he would be adequate as a team defender with good coaching and proper motivation, which is pretty hard to come by on the teams he's been associated with the last few years.

 

[#1_War_Poet_ForLife]

My heart is set on CDR starting :[

I think he helps both starting and bench squads immensely, and would be finishing the game anyway.