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Hoopguru said:
I still like Tulsi Gabbard too. Any women that can surf the North Shore and play the Ukulele, could have my vote.
She's also a conciliator which is what this country needs now.
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She's toast.
 
Hoopguru said:
Probably but I still like her. She's stand a better chance of beating Trump than Warren, imo.
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Huh? How can a person polling at around 1% have a better chance at beating trump than someone polling at over 20% and that's just in the democratic party That would be like saying Zach Collins had a better chance than Lillard from the Blazers to be league MVP last year.
 
CupWizier said:
Huh? How can a person polling at around 1% have a better chance at beating trump than someone polling at over 20% and that's just in the democratic party That would be like saying Zach Collins had a better chance than Lillard from the Blazers to be league MVP last year.
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I know it seems crazy but I think unless Warren moves some to the middle and she has time she will not go over well in many States. Now in the Dem party the flavor of the month is free medical and I think when you states that millions of Americans would need to give up their insurance they are happy with it could hurt her.
I just think both Klobachar and Gabbard both would appeal more to those that are more moderate.
When it comes to politics Im always looking for some middle ground with candidates and ones that can relate with more than their base.
 
Hoopguru said:
I know it seems crazy but I think unless Warren moves some to the middle and she has time she will not go over well in many States. Now in the Dem party the flavor of the month is free medical and I think when you states that millions of Americans would need to give up their insurance they are happy with it could hurt her.
I just think both Klobachar and Gabbard both would appeal more to those that are more moderate.
When it comes to politics Im always looking for some middle ground with candidates and ones that can relate with more than their base.
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Well, your opinion is defying logic as Gabbard has very little chance to even be the democratic nomination. I have nothing against her as she seems to be a sharp lady, but Warren has a much better chance in my book and the democratic election will likely prove that out as she hasn't been moving in the polls at all and certainly doesn't have near the following of candidates like Biden and Warren. I would put Mayor Pete significantly ahead of her as well. Now she might make for a good running mate, but that's likely the extent of where she stands in the next election.
 
CupWizier said:
Well, your opinion is defying logic as Gabbard has very little chance to even be the democratic nomination. I have nothing against her as she seems to be a sharp lady, but Warren has a much better chance in my book and the democratic election will likely prove that out as she hasn't been moving in the polls at all and certainly doesn't have near the following of candidates like Biden and Warren. I would put Mayor Pete significantly ahead of her as well. Now she might make for a good running mate, but that's likely the extent of where she stands in the next election.
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I always look for a longshot..lol
Cup, what 1 candidate regardless of current poll, would you like to see as the nominee?
 
CupWizier said:
My son is teaching 5th grade this year and he has read some of your posts and he says you would fit right in the middle of his class. :devilwink:
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By the way, went to grandsons soccer game yesterday at my old HS Putnam. Ones a frosh and ones a sophomore. Play on JV.
They won 2 zip.
 
Hoopguru said:
I always look for a longshot..lol
Cup, what 1 candidate regardless of current poll, would you like to see as the nominee?
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I haven't even gotten that far yet, but pretty much any of them would be better than what we have. I'm tired of the lies, divisiveness and all the childish personal attacks that come from this idiot in the White House along with his obvious objective of enriching himself and his buddies.
 
Hoopguru said:
By the way, went to grandsons soccer game yesterday at my old HS Putnam. Ones a frosh and ones a sophomore. Play on JV.
They won 2 zip.
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My granddaughter is a freshman there this year.
 
Hoopguru said:
I know it seems crazy but I think unless Warren moves some to the middle and she has time she will not go over well in many States. Now in the Dem party the flavor of the month is free medical and I think when you states that millions of Americans would need to give up their insurance they are happy with it could hurt her.
I just think both Klobachar and Gabbard both would appeal more to those that are more moderate.
When it comes to politics Im always looking for some middle ground with candidates and ones that can relate with more than their base.
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Free health care for all may not be popular at this time but it is the right thing to do.
 
Lanny said:
Free health care for all may not be popular at this time but it is the right thing to do.
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im not saying its not, but taking way solid insurance form those that want to keep it, is the wrong thing to do.
I favor both Lanny, we need medical care assistance for those that need it, but also give people choice to purchase.
 
Lanny said:
Free health care for all may not be popular at this time but it is the right thing to do.
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Im going to go to Vegas and put longs shot money on Klobby!
She's want to help all Americans not just those that need it.
 
Lanny said:
Free health care for all may not be popular at this time but it is the right thing to do.
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If they would offset it with free cell phone & cable coverage for all, it might be more enticing!
 
Hoopguru said:
Im going to go to Vegas and put longs shot money on Klobby!
She's want to help all Americans not just those that need it.
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Hey, how much you putting down and at what odds? I might be willing to cover that one. :devilwink:
 
CupWizier said:
Hey, how much you putting down and at what odds? I might be willing to cover that one. :devilwink:
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Heck they have your gal Hillary at better odds than most as of 9/24/19..lol jk about her being your gal...

Democratic Primary Betting Odds 2020
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Craig Cummings
September 24th, 2019
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Democratic Primary betting can be a very lucrative business for keen-eyed political betting enthusiasts. In 2016 it was the GOP flaunting what felt like an endless list of potential nominees but now it's the Democrats' turn.

Elizabeth Warren at +125 is the betting favorite to become the Democratic Nominee for the 2020 Presidential Election. Senator Warren is ahead of former VP Joe Biden at +300.

2020 Democratic Nomination Odds
Candidate Odds
Elizabeth Warren +125
Joe Biden +300
Bernie Sanders +800
Hillary Clinton +1400
Kamala Harris +1600
Andrew Yang +1600
Pete Buttigieg +2000
Cory Booker +5000
Beto O'Rourke +6600
Tulsi Gabbard +8000
Julián Castro +10000
Michael Bennet +10000
Amy Klobuchar +10000
Tim Ryan +10000
Marianne Williamson +15000
Steve Bullock No Odds
Wayne Messam No Odds
Joe Sestak No Odds
Tom Steyer No Odds
 
Id put $10.00 bucks down on AMY. In my unbiased opinion she going to win a few debates and climb the golden ladder.
The socialist will peak out after the next debate or so and decline.
 
Hoopguru said:
Heck they have your gal Hillary at better odds than most as of 9/24/19..lol jk about her being your gal...

Democratic Primary Betting Odds 2020
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Craig Cummings
September 24th, 2019
Url copied!
https://www.gambling.com/us/online-betting/strategy/us-democratic-primary-betting-1817000
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Democratic Primary betting can be a very lucrative business for keen-eyed political betting enthusiasts. In 2016 it was the GOP flaunting what felt like an endless list of potential nominees but now it's the Democrats' turn.

Elizabeth Warren at +125 is the betting favorite to become the Democratic Nominee for the 2020 Presidential Election. Senator Warren is ahead of former VP Joe Biden at +300.

2020 Democratic Nomination Odds
Candidate Odds
Elizabeth Warren +125
Joe Biden +300
Bernie Sanders +800
Hillary Clinton +1400
Kamala Harris +1600
Andrew Yang +1600
Pete Buttigieg +2000
Cory Booker +5000
Beto O'Rourke +6600
Tulsi Gabbard +8000
Julián Castro +10000
Michael Bennet +10000
Amy Klobuchar +10000
Tim Ryan +10000
Marianne Williamson +15000
Steve Bullock No Odds
Wayne Messam No Odds
Joe Sestak No Odds
Tom Steyer No Odds
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When Joe drops out watch for Hillary to enter the race!
 
Hoopguru said:
im not saying its not, but taking way solid insurance form those that want to keep it, is the wrong thing to do.
I favor both Lanny, we need medical care assistance for those that need it, but also give people choice to purchase.
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Look, I favor letting people have a choice, Medicare for those over 65, paid private insurance for those who want it, Obama Care for those who can't afford private care but aren't poor enough for Medicaid, Medicaid for the truly disadvantaged and a public option to keep private insurance affordable.
Health care for those under the age of 19 or still in high school or college, ought to be free.
Of course, I don't expect this to happen within my lifetime but I see it or something better to be inevitable.
 
Hoopguru said:
When Joe drops out watch for Hillary to enter the race!
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For the last time, Hillary will not run, ever, never again. Not my wish but it's what she's committed to doing.
 
Hoopguru said:
Id put $10.00 bucks down on AMY. In my unbiased opinion she going to win a few debates and climb the golden ladder.
The socialist will peak out after the next debate or so and decline.
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How about a beer? Would you bet a beer that Klobuchar wins the nomination? Mind you, I drink fancy beer such as Guinness stout although I don't drink much.
 
Lanny said:
How about a beer? Would you bet a beer that Klobuchar wins the nomination? Mind you, I drink fancy beer such as Guinness stout although I don't drink much.
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lol...sure but if I win you but me a bottle of Jamison. jk
 
Hoopguru said:
lol...sure but if I win you but me a bottle of Jamison. jk
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Beer for a beer. Must be drunk in an establishment of the winner's choice. All bettors must be present and be congenial if not jovial.
Politics must not be discussed. Winner must put on shit eating grin. Loser must shed tears. Bulk of conversation must be about Blazers.
The judge must be the high priest of this place, SlyPokerDog.
 
Lanny said:
Beer for a beer. Must be drunk in an establishment of the winner's choice. All bettors must be present and be congenial if not jovial.
Politics must not be discussed. Winner must put on shit eating grin. Loser must shed tears. Bulk of conversation must be about Blazers.
The judge must be the high priest of this place, SlyPokerDog.
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can we play Cardinal Puff?
 
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