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If you must, you can run bootcamp and dual boot your mac into Windows and OSX

Just to play games.

Sheesh.
 
I'm just curious why Google and Microsoft are on the list and apple isn't. Bottom line obviously matters more, just curious.

I prefer Google because they create products that do everything I want for a very good price.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
I'm just curious why Google and Microsoft are on the list and apple isn't. Bottom line obviously matters more, just curious.

I prefer Google because they create products that do everything I want for a very good price.
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So they are the Hyundai of computer companies?
 
Apple will slowly whither and die without their Messiah.
 
magnifier661 said:
That's awesome technology! How many commercial "self driving" cars are in the market? I want one!!!!
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Google is the new innovator, and they're doing it without bending over their customers and raping their wallets. Apple should really take note.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Google is the new innovator, and they're doing it without bending over their customers and raping their wallets. Apple should really take note.
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Google does nothing to support your PC vs. Apple argument. Can you build a google computer, or are you just losing sooooo badly in the debate that you have to leach on this one?
 
But should apple take note on google? This article disagrees….

http://www.forbes.com/sites/nigamarora/2013/12/04/how-apple-stock-got-red-hot-again/

iPad Slam Dunks Android

On November 30, InfoScout reported that about 40% of Black Friday purchases of iPad were by existing Google GOOG +0.33% Android phone users. If this trend continues, this is an extremely positive development for Apple. First, it means that even though Android tablets are cheaper, consumers prefer iPads. Second, this gives an opening for Apple to convert Android smartphone users to iPhones.
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magnifier661 said:
Google does nothing to support your PC vs. Apple argument. Can you build a google computer, or are you just losing sooooo badly in the debate that you have to leach on this one?
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You compared Google to Hyundai..... I felt I needed to interject. :devilwink:

Apple is like Ducati... overpriced and underperforming :grin:
 
Natebishop3 said:
Nah, I have a 27" HD monitor but I don't need it to be built into the computer. It's not worth an extra $1200 to me. You can get a really nice HD monitor for a couple hundred bucks.
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So, in your "I can build the same computer for half the cost" argument, you 1) don't build the same computer and 2) leave out one of the most expensive component (20%+ of your total cost). I understand that you can get a PC with comparable specs for less. And I understand that you can build a comparable PC yourself for even less than that. Just don't claim your 900 self made tower is the same as a 27" iMac, but at less than half the cost. Just cause some of the components are the same doesn't mean it is the same computer.
 
You can get a mac mini for as low as $599. Granted, its not as cheap as some PCs but the OS is superiour for ease of use.
 
porkchopexpress said:
So, in your "I can build the same computer for half the cost" argument, you 1) don't build the same computer and 2) leave out one of the most expensive component (20%+ of your total cost). I understand that you can get a PC with comparable specs for less. And I understand that you can build a comparable PC yourself for even less than that. Just don't claim your 900 self made tower is the same as a 27" iMac, but at less than half the cost. Just cause some of the components are the same doesn't mean it is the same computer.
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You're leaving out one major key component to my argument.

I built my computer two years ago. Apple is selling those same components for at or nearly twice the price, two years later. In the computer world, two years is a long time, no?
 
Natebishop3 said:
You compared Google to Hyundai..... I felt I needed to interject. :devilwink:

Apple is like Ducati... overpriced and underperforming :grin:
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Underperforming? Show me the bench marks that support this claim? You even admitted that apple is superior in the graphic arts, music and video.

No apple is the audi of the auto industry. PCs are the ford trucks
 
Natebishop3 said:
Google is the new innovator, and they're doing it without bending over their customers and raping their wallets. Apple should really take note.
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Case in point the chromecast costing a third of what apple tv does
 
Natebishop3 said:
You're leaving out one major key component to my argument.

I built my computer two years ago. Apple is selling those same components for at or nearly twice the price, two years later. In the computer world, two years is a long time, no?
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And apple still out benchmarking today's PCs with two year old hardware.

The building a muscle car to a high performance sports car applies even more
 
magnifier661 said:
And apple still out benchmarking today's PCs with two year old hardware.

The building a muscle car to a high performance sports car applies even more
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PC's are not muscle cars. I don't think you understand how computers work. They have many of the same components. The same CPU's, the same ram, the same video cards, the same hard drives. Your Mac isn't faster than my PC. In fact, unless you have a SSD, I doubt you're even remotely as fast as mine. What you've been talking about is reliability. That has nothing to do with speed. Speed has to do with CPU, it has to do with RAM, it has to do with having a solid state drive. Those are hardware components. Your OS might be more reliable, but with how quickly hardware becomes obsolete, I don't really care if a computer lasts five years or longer.
 
Natebishop3 said:
PC's are not muscle cars. I don't think you understand how computers work. They have many of the same components. The same CPU's, the same ram, the same video cards, the same hard drives. Your Mac isn't faster than my PC. In fact, unless you have a SSD, I doubt you're even remotely as fast as mine. What you've been talking about is reliability. That has nothing to do with speed. Speed has to do with CPU, it has to do with RAM, it has to do with having a solid state drive. Those are hardware components. Your OS might be more reliable, but with how quickly hardware becomes obsolete, I don't really care if a computer lasts five years or longer.
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Explain to me how a Porsche (2.8 L 6) can be twice as fast as a charger (hemi 6.7 L V8)?

Technically the V8 is stronger, bigger engine, faster parts.

And to go further, how about we race through a canyon and see who gets to the finish line faster.

You are rating CPUs on components that don't give you the end result. So many other things are taken into consideration. Hence the operating system, taking full advantage with the components.

Your PC is using a fraction of what it really can use
 
Well I would not be surprised at all if both Apple and Google go into the video game console industry and technically they are already involved in the gaming industry. When the Wii U got released there was a big question as to if the video game industry had died off. Ever since the PS4 and the XBoxOne got released gaming sales have never been higher.
 
magnifier661 said:
Explain to me how a Porsche (2.8 L 6) can be twice as fast as a charger (hemi 6.7 L V8)?

Technically the V8 is stronger, bigger engine, faster parts.

And to go further, how about we race through a canyon and see who gets to the finish line faster.

You are rating CPUs on components that don't give you the end result. So many other things are taken into consideration. Hence the operating system, taking full advantage with the components.

Your PC is using a fraction of what it really can use
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Dude, cars are not a good comparison. They aren't using the exact same components, while computers are in many cases. You said it yourself, the Porsche is using one engine, the Charger another. I don't think an OS is a good comparison for an engine because the engine is still just a part, a major one, but one that would not work without a number of other parts. The CPU is more like an engine. The OS is more like the car itself, tying together all the parts to make it a functioning machine.

If you really must compare computers to cars, think of Nascar. They're supposed to all be the same vehicle, that's why they call them stock cars. Computers are very much the same in that they only have so many options when it comes to hardware. That's why so many of them use the same CPU's, same video cards, same hard drives, same mother boards, etc. The biggest difference IS the OS, but an overclocked PC is just as, if not faster, than an Apple. It all depends on the computer, how it's set up, and whether person running it understands what they're doing.

You still haven't explained how a computer with virtually the same parts is worth twice the money.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Dude, cars are not a good comparison. They aren't using the exact same components, while computers are in many cases. You said it yourself, the Porsche is using one engine, the Charger another. I don't think an OS is a good comparison for an engine because the engine is still just a part, a major one, but one that would not work without a number of other parts. The CPU is more like an engine. The OS is more like the car itself, tying together all the parts to make it a functioning machine.

If you really must compare computers to cars, think of Nascar. They're supposed to all be the same vehicle, that's why they call them stock cars. Computers are very much the same in that they only have so many options when it comes to hardware. That's why so many of them use the same CPU's, same video cards, same hard drives, same mother boards, etc. The biggest difference IS the OS, but an overclocked PC is just as, if not faster, than an Apple. It all depends on the computer, how it's set up, and whether person running it understands what they're doing.

You still haven't explained how a computer with virtually the same parts is worth twice the money.
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Okay then you are the 20th place car and apple is the dale earnharts
 
Or you PCs are the "crew member 28" and apple is Captain Kirk. Or PCs are the Jamaican skiing team, while apple are the German skiing team
 
Natebishop3 said:
You're leaving out one major key component to my argument.

I built my computer two years ago. Apple is selling those same components for at or nearly twice the price, two years later. In the computer world, two years is a long time, no?
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Maybe they use the same components, but nothing you listed proves they are. List SKUs or the actual components if you are going to claim they are the same. An i7 processor from 2011/12 is not the same as one today. 1TB hard drive from 2 years ago may (or may not) be the same as one from today. Hell, a 2 different 1 TB hard drives from today may be completely different in terms of speed/performance.
 
Natebishop3 said:
You're leaving out one major key component to my argument.

I built my computer two years ago. Apple is selling those same components for at or nearly twice the price, two years later. In the computer world, two years is a long time, no?
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They're not the same components.

Apple has had to wait for Intel to release the newer CPUs to production before releasing each of their more recent computers and laptops.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_Bridge_(microarchitecture)

(for example)
 
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