Politics Are you better off today than you were 4 years ago?

[e_blazer]

Right. I went festivus by pointing out his memory failure?

Yeah, you aren't biased. lol.

 

[jonnyboy]

Im doing better currently than I was four years ago.

Aside from being older, which is clearly Trumps fault.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I think its a joke and no one is calling the Blazers about him.

I can tell you 100% that letters complaining about HCP have been sent to the Blazers.

The most recent one that happened a month ago escalated to the point that I had get in contact with HCP's direct boss.

I have no reason to lie about that.

 

[H.C.]

I told @SlyPokerDog I wouldn't reply to you along with a couple other members, but this post has me a bit confused to be honest.
So you are saying I "berated" a member in "multiple threads"? Don't remember that, but maybe I did. I don't remember "calling my forum buddies" though for anything. You'd have to remind me of when that happened. And I'm a bit curious about what the "x" word is as well. Did I offend somebody who pays you that has something to do with their kids?
Bro, I'm lost. I can't believe you and your boy have all this stuff just up in your dome like this. Keep me on ignore, please.

First off. You say this all the time.
''Oh I told @SlyPokerDog I wouldn't reply to you and a couple others''
Cut the shit, you'll reply to anyone you feel like.
No one believes you nor your victim bullshit that you pulled on the next page. "I'll go into self imposed isolation".
Jesus christ.

Secondly I have no ''boys'' on this site.
Just because someone agrees that another person is an asshole doesn't make them kin.
I have disagreed with OB multiple times.
One of which was recently.
He didn't get bent out of shape like you.
He didn't call his buddies to tell me how unfair I was being to him.
He acted like an adult and moved the fuck on.

You always say the same bullshit. "I don't remember this happening".
You used to also say this. "Mods on this site have never DM'd me telling me to stop x. I have privilege on this site".
Then @SlyPokerDog had to set the record straight publicly that you had indeed been dm'd multiple times over the years to stop. That not everyone appreciates "your humor".
Then you went MIA in that thread but posted in others.
Shocking how that works.

You always say this to others. Heres a taste of your own medicine.
How many people have you got in an argument with on this site?
You're the common denominator.
But you're right about one thing. It is hard living in such a divisive world.
Perhaps if you were a little less divisive. It would be easier to raise your children as the world would have one less person trying to push everyones buttons just to get a reaction.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Right. I went festivus by pointing out his memory failure?

Yeah, you aren't biased. lol.

He didn't mention anyone.

You're the one who directly replied to him.

And sure.

I'm biased.

I'm a dick.

An idiot.

I smell.

I'm a jackass.

 

[H.C.]

I can tell you 100% that letters complaining about HCP have been sent to the Blazers.

The most recent one that happened a month ago escalated to the point that I had get in contact with HCP's direct boss.

I have no reason to lie about that.

Sad thing is. There are enough people that HCP has annoyed on this site that we prolly will never know who the actual person is.
The common denominator is HCP.
But he'll never see that.

 

[Orion Bailey]

I can tell you 100% that letters complaining about HCP have been sent to the Blazers.

The most recent one that happened a month ago escalated to the point that I had get in contact with HCP's direct boss.

I have no reason to lie about that.

Sorry, but I just dont believe you. You have shown your biased too many times. You have not cleared things publicly. And you have not addressed the elephant. If people are writing the Blazers...( VERY MUCH NOT COOL)

It should still be a sign that HCP's behavior on here is pissing people off. And you dismiss this publicly and say things like I started this; not his denial of past behaviors. If you stood up for what was right, you would publicly state his behavior in the past was wrong as well.

You don't. So with that I don't trust your judgement on this. Doesn't matter if something happened 10 seconds ago or 10 years ago. what is right is right and If someone says they didn't do something, I'm gonna correct them if they did.

You call it turning over the rock. I call it keeping it real.

Sorry man.

 

[H.C.]

@Orion Bailey @SlyPokerDog

I actually believe I started it.
HCP posted something hypocritical. I was reading the site not logged in and responded to his statement.
Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm not about who started it.

 

[Orion Bailey]

He didn't mention anyone.

You're the one who directly replied to him.

And sure.

I'm biased.

I'm a dick.

An idiot.

I smell.

I'm a jackass.

Are you going to treat me as such the fool that I don't know he means me when he says your boy and says to HC "your Buddy"?

Don't treat me like a dumbass please...

In this instance I know the person who is the topic of the discussion. He said he didn't remember it. I said it happened and it happened to more than one person.

I'm keeping it real. You do whatever it is you wanna do to.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

First off. You say this all the time.
''Oh I told @SlyPokerDog I wouldn't reply to you and a couple others''
Cut the shit, you'll reply to anyone you feel like.
No one believes you nor your victim bullshit that you pulled on the next page. "I'll go into self imposed isolation".
Jesus christ.

We had another incident where someone again wrote to the Blazers and HCP's boss complaining about HCP.

It escalated to the point where I had to get involved and speak with HCP's boss.

HCP was understandably upset over this.

I asked HCP not to mention this in the forum for the following reasons:

1. The person(s) doing this wouldn't see they were successful in their letters and this would stop.

2. That HCP and myself wouldn't continually be called liars about this both publicly and privately.

3. And while a long shot, that someone would be dumb enough to mention the 2nd letter in the forum.

 

[Orion Bailey]

@Orion Bailey @SlyPokerDog

I actually believe I started it.
HCP posted something hypocritical. I was reading the site not logged in and responded to his statement.
Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm not about who started it.

No. You are right. I wasn't going to directly point it out, but you mention his irony. He came back at you with a rant claiming he doesnt know what the issue is, so I corrected his memory is all

But for Sly's sake, lets just say I did it....
Again.


Fucking unreal.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Sorry, but I just dont believe you. You have shown your biased too many times. You have not cleared things publicly. And you have not addressed the elephant. If people are writing the Blazers...( VERY MUCH NOT COOL)

It should still be a sign that HCP's behavior on here is pissing people off. And you dismiss this publicly and say things like I started this; not his denial of past behaviors. If you stood up for what was right, you would publicly state his behavior in the past was wrong as well.

You don't. So with that I don't trust your judgement on this. Doesn't matter if something happened 10 seconds ago or 10 years ago. what is right is right and If someone says they didn't do something, I'm gonna correct them if they did.

You call it turning over the rock. I call it keeping it real.

Sorry man.

Sure, I'm a fucking liar.

 

[Orion Bailey]

We had another incident where someone again wrote to the Blazers and HCP's boss complaining about HCP.

It escalated to the point where I had to get involved and speak with HCP's boss.

HCP was understandably upset over this.

I asked HCP not to mention this in the forum for the following reasons:

1. The person(s) doing this wouldn't see they were successful in their letters and this would stop.

2. That HCP and myself wouldn't continually be called liars about this both publicly and privately.

3. And while a long shot, that someone would be dumb enough to mention the 2nd letter in the forum.

And who brought it up now? JUST LIKE the first time?

And so yet, here we have HCP AGAIN denying his past behaviors. Make it try to sound like he did nothing and its other peoples "issue".

Fuck man...

 

[RR7]

 

[Orion Bailey]

Sure, I'm a fucking liar.

Nice way to bury the elephant under the rug instead of dealing with it and moving on....

 

[H.C.]

Honest question--what's the x word?

And I'm a bit curious about what the "x" word is as well.

Also it doesn't fucking matter what the word is.
If someone asks another person to stop calling them x as they find it offensive.
The person asked to stop shouldn't fucking continue and act like it's not a big deal.
As it becomes a bulling issue then. Oh right it's just the internet who cares if you're getting bullied on the internet.
Cyber bulling isn't a thing. Nope it's fake news/alternative facts.

 

[THE HCP]

We had another incident where someone again wrote to the Blazers and HCP's boss complaining about HCP.

It escalated to the point where I had to get involved and speak with HCP's boss.

HCP was understandably upset over this.

I asked HCP not to mention this in the forum for the following reasons:

1. The person(s) doing this wouldn't see they were successful in their letters and this would stop.

2. That HCP and myself wouldn't continually be called liars about this both publicly and privately.

3. And while a long shot, that someone would be dumb enough to mention the 2nd letter in the forum.

Very sorry for bringing this up man, I said I wouldn't. Now understanding why you didn't want me to. My bad for sure.

 

[RR7]

moving on....

Maybe you can try moving on?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Nice way to bury the elephant under the rug instead of dealing with it and moving on....

You started off calling me a liar. Not sure what there is to talk about after that. You're not going to believe it anyways.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Maybe you can try moving on?

Starting now. Thanks. But again. If people want to try posting revisionist history. Ill be here to correct them.

 

[H.C.]

We had another incident where someone again wrote to the Blazers and HCP's boss complaining about HCP.

It escalated to the point where I had to get involved and speak with HCP's boss.

HCP was understandably upset over this.

I asked HCP not to mention this in the forum for the following reasons:

1. The person(s) doing this wouldn't see they were successful in their letters and this would stop.

2. That HCP and myself wouldn't continually be called liars about this both publicly and privately.

3. And while a long shot, that someone would be dumb enough to mention the 2nd letter in the forum.

cool?
I don't see why I should care about you, hcp, or some person sending letters to the Blazers about hcp.
As I said previously. It would be nice if we as a community could figure out who this person was.
But HCP has annoyed enough people on this site that it could be numerous people.

How many times did you DM him telling him to stop "hazing" new members?

Which is why you, I, HCP, Blazer brass, Denny, etc, etc, etc. Have no clue as to who it is.

The common denominator is him. But I'm sure some victim post is incoming in 5.. 4.. 3..

 

[RR7]

Starting now. Thanks. But again. If people want to try posting revisionist history. Ill be here to correct them.

Or you can not? Maybe? Like be an adult? Ignore it perhaps? Not give us a thousand word essay every other day?
I work with 3-6 year olds that regularly handle conflict resolution better.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

cool?
I don't see why I should care about you, hcp, or some person sending letters to the Blazers about hcp.
As I said previously. It would be nice if we as a community could figure out who this person was.
But HCP has annoyed enough people on this site that it could be numerous people.

Which is why you, I, HCP, Blazer brass, Denny, etc, etc, etc. Have no clue as to who it is.

The common denominator is him. But I'm sure some victim post is incoming in 5.. 4.. 3..

Going after someone's job is beyond fucked up.

I would respond the same way if it happened to any member in here.

 

[yankeesince59]

Or you can not? Maybe? Like be an adult? Ignore it perhaps? Not give us a thousand word essay every other day?
I work with 3-6 year olds that regularly handle conflict resolution better.

THIS!

 

[Orion Bailey]

You started off calling me a liar. Not sure what there is to talk about after that. You're not going to believe it anyways.

So when I was a 11 year old? 12? I had a summer job to chop a trail into the woods to the end of our property. I had to get it done by the start of school or I would get the bicycle I was working for. I ended up not finishing and when I came home from school I moped. MY older step brother yanked me off the couch and told me to go finish it before our parents get home. Don't just give up because you didn't achieve the goal. Continue striving for it anyhow. That's the measurement of how to succeed. Its not giving up just because you failed to hit a goal.



I trust your judgment on a great many things Sly. However I do believe you to be biased in this instance. When specifics have come up in the past in our private convos, you have not responded, or avoided. So if I dont beleive you, its becuase of your own doing of not being straight up. Saying one thing in private and another in public regarding this situation is another reason.


You seem to completely dismiss that if HCP wouldn't have ranted on HC, I would have had nothign to comment on. But this is always avoided, which, in my view, shows the bias.

This was a conversation. HC came in and was respectful but direct on calling out the irony of HCP's post. WShewre it derailed? HCPs ranting denial.

HCP then went on a denial thing, im innocent thing, and I respectfully, but directly corrected him on that. and you say I went all Festivus?
IF I dont believe you on this topic, it is you who has provided me with enough to not trust.

 

[H.C.]

Going after someone's job is beyond fucked up.

I would respond the same way if it happened to any member in here.

Really? Because I mentioned something to you several months ago and I didn't get the same response out of you HCP got.
Maybe because I included the fact that when I was called in to talk to my boss my character is known to be beyond question. That my boss wanted to inform me and that she was laughing about it.
As I said I wish as a community we could know who this person/possible people are.
But with how many people HCP has crossed. You'll never be able to find out.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Or you can not? Maybe? Like be an adult? Ignore it perhaps? Not give us a thousand word essay every other day?
I work with 3-6 year olds that regularly handle conflict resolution better.

Right. denying behavior, following someone from thread to thread trying to jab at them is sooo mature. Cyber bullying and then denying it is just true adult class.
Right.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Really? Because I mentioned something to you several months ago and I didn't get the same response out of you HCP got.
Maybe because I included the fact that when I was called in to talk to my boss my character is known to be beyond question. That my boss wanted to inform me and that she was laughing about it.
As I said I wish as a community we could know who this person/possible people are.
But with how many people HCP has crossed. You'll never be able to find out.

I think I missed something. You got called in to your bosses office about this forum?

If you needed me to write your boss I'm sorry I missed that.

 

[H.C.]

I think I missed something. You got called in to your bosses office about this forum?

If you needed me to write your boss I'm sorry I missed that.

Yes. Feb 8th 2020 I mentioned it to you in a DM.(I actually still have the DM shockingly)

No need as I said. My character is beyond question.
I may work for the city, but everyone knows my character.

I've always tried to pick my words carefully on this site. At times I've failed. At times I've succeeded.
I failed by responding to the ironic post made by HCP.
I try to admit and own my mistakes.
If more people did that, we wouldn't be so divided as a community. Let alone a society.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I trust your judgment on a great many things Sly. However I do believe you to be biased in this instance. When specifics have come up in the past in our private convos, you have not responded, or avoided. So if I dont beleive you, its becuase of your own doing of not being straight up. Saying one thing in private and another in public regarding this situation is another reason.


You seem to completely dismiss that if HCP wouldn't have ranted on HC, I would have had nothign to comment on. But this is always avoided, which, in my view, shows the bias.

This was a conversation. HC came in and was respectful but direct on calling out the irony of HCP's post. WShewre it derailed? HCPs ranting denial.

HCP then went on a denial thing, im innocent thing, and I respectfully, but directly corrected him on that. and you say I went all Festivus?
IF I dont believe you on this topic, it is you who has provided me with enough to not trust.

You have a habit of building strawmen and then wanting me to respond.

Go back in this thread.

HCP posted. Didn't name anyone. I saw that. I laughed. It was a self awarewolf post. (Self awarewolf post - people who criticize others, do so in a way that reflects as an accurate criticism of themselves.)

But I did agree, we all need to be nicer to each other.

Then instead of just laughing at him and moving on you just have to reply. Which is your right, you did nothing wrong. But honestly, you had to have known once you did things were going to devolve where they are right now.

Then HC replied to him. Again, he could have just let it go. HCP didn't mention anyone in his original post but nope. We have to start going there.

He didn't mention anyone but both of you start replying back.

Again, nothing wrong, and while I wish neither of you did, HERE.WE.GO! Running off topic and bring up past BS that has honestly calmed way the fuck down.

Then you make multiple posts including this one that claims a completely different order of how this conversation evolved.

1. HCP posted first.

2. You replied directly to him.

3. HC replied directly to him.

And somehow we get to the point where I'm biased and a liar.