Are you upset that Greg is going back to Ohio this Summer?

[Minstrel]

Would you say, overall, that Oden's impact on the Blazers this season has been disappointing?

Yes, because he played so little. I think if he had been able to play 30+ minutes a game, his impact would have approximated what people were hoping for.

If he had been crap when on the floor, I'd be extremely worried. That his impact was limited due to fouls keeping him off the floor worries me a lot less, because I don't anticipate that being a problem long-term.

 

[rocketeer]

His fouls were disappointing because they limited his minutes. His play when he was on the court wasn't at all disappointing for a rookie center, especially one who had to sit out a year (18 PER, one of the top Rebound Rates in the game, good defense). I'm hardly the only one who's pointed this out.

this is true. oden wasn't disappointing during his time on the court(unless you had ridiculous expectations). it's the amount of time he spent on the court that was disappointing.

going to ohio state over the summer is no problem at all. guys do it all the time. oden will be working out there, will have trainers there, will likely have blazers staff there, and will have guys to workout against. going to summer school isn't going to get in the way of him working out.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Oden's disappointment, for me, is that he was slower footed than expected. He was not the monster 7 footer who was quick and agile . . . as he was advertized. So part of the disappointment was his inablility to stay on the court (it almost sounds like it's not his fault he wasn't getting more court time when in fact him not staying on the court because of his slow feet was one of the biggest disappointments)

I still see Oden as part of the big three, it just looks like the development stage will be longer than expected . . . which is why I would like to see him give 100% dedication to learning the NBA game (and how not to foul) this summer.

But whatever, Blazers need the big guy, so whatever floats his boat works for me . . .just come ready to help the team win.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Oden's disappointment, for me, is that he was slower footed than expected. He was not the monster 7 footer who was quick and agile . . . as he was advertized. So part of the disappointment was his inablility to stay on the court (it almost sounds like it's not his fault he wasn't getting more court time)

I still see Oden as part of the big three, it just looks like the development stage will be longer than expected . . . which is why I would like to see him give 100% dedication to learning the NBA game (and how not to foul) this summer.

But whatever, Blazers need the big guy, so whatever floats his boat works for me . . .just come ready to help the team win.

Agreed it would have been nice to see the pre-surgery Oden, but I wasn't disappointed because I kind of expected him to have a down year athletically; all you had to do was look at Amare' or even Zach their first year back -- and they had the benefit of already having played in the NBA.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Agreed it would have been nice to see the pre-surgery Oden, but I wasn't disappointed because I kind of expected him to have a down year athletically; all you had to do was look at Amare' or even Zach their first year back -- and they had the benefit of already having played in the NBA.

Wasn't Oden showing this to be more of a problem in summer league . . . I can't recall another player picking up fouls the way he did in summer league (pre-surgery).

But yes, post surgery, you can't expect him to be quicker or as quick as he was pre-surgery. That is why I was hoping he would stay around this summer . . . I figured he might finally be athletically back and now is the time for him to work on his timing and foot work.

Again, as long as he works on it and comes back improved . .. it's all good.

 

[Sug]

If you don't take a break you will burn out.

 

[MARIS61]

1. It's his vacation, he can spend it how he pleases.

2. Past history suggests many players benefit professionally from both an extended absence from Nate's controlling/stifling presence and a reuniting with friends, coaches and old training routines. It has worked well for Joel, Travis and Sergio.

 

[STOMP]

Oden needs to work on his game no matter where he is. If he chooses not to and shows up into camp with little to no improvement, then I will be livid.

What if he works on his game with Blazer coaches/trainers in Ohio for most of the summer, shows up in shape, yet doesn't improve by leaps and bounds... will you still be livid? I'd be disappointed, but at least I could enjoy a chuckle at the expense of the

The city of Portland doesn't have some magical quality that makes skills improvement easier then other places. Most players do not train during the off season in the city they represent and I see little reason that Greg should be held to some different standard.

STOMP

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

I have a little bit of heartache with it. While I have no problem with a quick visit home, he needs to realize he now works for a living and that work requires him to be at his best for a team. A team that depends on him. He had a sub par year and he needs to dramatically improve. If that can be best accomplished in Ohio, so be it. If not, then get your fanny back here and get to work.

 

[RudyFor3]

I'm not at all upset. Education comes first and Oden already sacrificed his education so he can play for us. Also, he misses home. If I grew up all my life In Portland and then got a job somewhere on the east coast, I'd want to spend my summer vacation with my friends and family back here. Oden also needs alot of rest because I don't think his knee is still fully healed from the micro-fracture. He also banged up his other knee this year and had bone chips, so the most important thing for him is REST. Oden needs to not think about basketball for like 3 months and just be happy. There was too much pressure put on him this season and it was not fair. I beleive once Oden realizes that basketball isn't everything in life, he will be more relaxed next year and in turn play much better.

 

[cdub503]

Question did his knee just heal by it's self and re chip get absorbed by his knee?

 

[RudyFor3]

Question did his knee just heal by it's self and re chip get absorbed by his knee?

His surgery was a success but it takes time to recover. He wasn't fully recovered this season. He just needs to fully rest this summer.

 

[cdub503]

For his acl or the bone chip? (I was curious bout the bone chip. Didn't know he got surgery if he did)

 

[Nikolokolus]

Question did his knee just heal by it's self and re chip get absorbed by his knee?

His surgery was a success but it takes time to recover. He wasn't fully recovered this season. He just needs to fully rest this summer.

For his acl or the bone chip? (I was curious bout the bone chip. Didn't know he got surgery if he did)

Ugh, let's get this straightened out. Greg did NOT have surgery to remove the bone chip in his left knee; it was something that only needed time to heal itself. Greg had microfracture surgery on the articular cartilage of his right knee a little over a year and a half ago (roughly) -- a procedure which most doctors estimate takes about 18 months to fully recover from (in terms of athleticism, explosiveness, etc.)

 

[The_Lillard_King]

cdub brings up a good point though . . . weren't there talks of Oden getting authroscopic surgery in the off season to get the bone chip out?

If that is the case, he can't really work on his game for about 6 weeks anyways . . .


Edit: I could of sworn there was some talk about playing through the pain and dealing with it this summer. But I see Nik talking about that injury just needing time. I could be wrong about the surgery talk for the bone chip . . .

 

[Minstrel]

cdub brings up a good point though . . . weren't there talks of Oden getting authroscopic surgery in the off season to get the bone chip out?

If that is the case, he can't really work on his game for about 6 weeks anyways . . .


Edit: I could of sworn there was some talk about playing through the pain and dealing with it this summer. But I see Nik talking about that injury just needing time. I could be wrong about the surgery talk for the bone chip . . .

As I recall, the "talk" was by a few members of this forum guaranteeing that Oden would have off-season surgery, based on nothing.

 

[KingSpeed]

Oden's game needs a lot of work. I'd like him to be in Portland working with our people to make sure he learns to stay out of foul trouble and to average at least a double double next season.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

As I recall, the "talk" was by a few members of this forum guaranteeing that Oden would have off-season surgery, based on nothing.

Well that would explain it since I use this site as my Blazer source.

My bad . . . thanks for the clarification.

 

[maxiep]

Besides, you know he is getting a lot of action at Ohio State. I bet there is a reason he is heading back there!

ahem...

...ahem.

 

[maxiep]

Question did his knee just heal by it's self and re chip get absorbed by his knee?

It appears as if it did. There hasn't been a report that he's experienced any discomfort and he hasn't missed any time because of a problem with that knee. It just took longer to recover than we thought it would.

 

[Nate Dogg]

I think everything I feel about Greg Oden and this topic can be summarized in this video.

I always wondered if that chick (in the video) was smoking pot and then got emotional off of it or its just an act. My first time that I saw my ex smoke some pot, she got paranoid and told me at 9 pm at night that i wasn't supposed to drink a pepsi. She got all upset and started crying when I went to the fridge and got one. I ended up just getting the munchies when she just tripped out on me having a pepsi and her friend had to comfort her.
I'm fine if Greg goes back home and gets his mind on his own priorities in life. He needs to get away from the game for a bit.

 

[Nate Dogg]

ahem...

...ahem.

I would like to find out that woman's myspace. Shes got a good body and face. LOL

 

[maxiep]

I always wondered if that chick (in the video) was smoking pot and then got emotional off of it or its just an act. My first time that I saw my ex smoke some pot, she got paranoid and told me at 9 pm at night that i wasn't supposed to drink a pepsi. She got all upset and started crying when I went to the fridge and got one. I ended up just getting the munchies when she just tripped out on me having a pepsi and her friend had to comfort her.

I'm fine if Greg goes back home and gets his mind on his own priorities in life. He needs to get away from the game for a bit.

I think the person in that video is a dude. Horrifying.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

2. Past history suggests many players benefit professionally from both an extended absence from Nate's controlling/stifling presence and a reuniting with friends, coaches and old training routines. It has worked well for Joel, Travis and Sergio.

ROFL... well, two out of three ain't bad.

 

[Sug]

This poll could be worded a little differently: Are you stupid? Yes or No.

 

[PapaG]

I'm not at all upset. Education comes first and Oden already sacrificed his education so he can play for us. Also, he misses home. If I grew up all my life In Portland and then got a job somewhere on the east coast, I'd want to spend my summer vacation with my friends and family back here. Oden also needs alot of rest because I don't think his knee is still fully healed from the micro-fracture. He also banged up his other knee this year and had bone chips, so the most important thing for him is REST. Oden needs to not think about basketball for like 3 months and just be happy. There was too much pressure put on him this season and it was not fair. I beleive once Oden realizes that basketball isn't everything in life, he will be more relaxed next year and in turn play much better.

If education comes first, Oden should have stayed in school and delayed starting his career. He's being paid millions of dollars by the Blazers now. Education should not be "first" for him; his job should be. That said, I don't really care what he does and where he does it other than he come back as something other than the stiff I watched for much of the season.

 

[oldmangrouch]

I do hope Oden realizes that he is taking a big risk from a PR standpoint. He has a right to do it, and it may even be the correct decision....but if he doesn't show serious improvement next year, even the most fanatical kool-aid drinkers will be hard pressed to keep making excuses for him.

 

[rocketeer]

I do hope Oden realizes that he is taking a big risk from a PR standpoint. He has a right to do it, and it may even be the correct decision....but if he doesn't show serious improvement next year, even the most fanatical kool-aid drinkers will be hard pressed to keep making excuses for him.

he's taking no risk at all from a pr standpoint. the people who already hate oden and constantly degrade him will continue to do so regardless of what he does. him going back to school over the summer than many other players do isn't going to cause a pr problem with reasonable people.

 

[PapaG]

he's taking no risk at all from a pr standpoint. the people who already hate oden and constantly degrade him will continue to do so regardless of what he does. him going back to school over the summer than many other players do isn't going to cause a pr problem with reasonable people.

What a completely made up argument. Other than Hank the Dwarf and Fez, please list these other people you are referencing.

 

[julius]

I do hope Oden realizes that he is taking a big risk from a PR standpoint. He has a right to do it, and it may even be the correct decision....but if he doesn't show serious improvement next year, even the most fanatical kool-aid drinkers will be hard pressed to keep making excuses for him.

I think those who are complaining about it, would complain about anything, given the chance.

It's not like the guy quit the team and went back to school. He's taking summer courses. And it's not like they're ALL summer, or probably that many.

It's no different than how probably the majority of the team is stepping away from a basketball court for a while.