Are you upset that Greg is going back to Ohio this Summer?

[julius]

I think everything I feel about Greg Oden and this topic can be summarized in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc&feature=PlayList&p=A2C58CDFF32FA25C&index=0&playnext=1

she has a point you know.

 

[STOMP]

What a completely made up argument. Other than Hank the Dwarf and Fez, please list these other people you are referencing.

Bill Simmons...

STOMP

 

[oldmangrouch]

I think those who are complaining about it, would complain about anything, given the chance.

It's not like the guy quit the team and went back to school. He's taking summer courses. And it's not like they're ALL summer, or probably that many.

It's no different than how probably the majority of the team is stepping away from a basketball court for a while.

All true, but not what I was refering to.

There is the widespread expectation that Oden will be in better physical shape next season. If he isn't, people will wonder if staying in Portland and working with the Blazer staff would have made a difference. By leaving town, Oden is taking 100% responsibility for what happens.

 

[Minstrel]

There is the widespread expectation that Oden will be in better physical shape next season. If he isn't, people will wonder if staying in Portland and working with the Blazer staff would have made a difference. By leaving town, Oden is taking 100% responsibility for what happens.

If he's not in excellent shape, he'll bear 100% responsibility for that either way. I really don't think his returning to Ohio State changes that. Ultimately, he bears full responsibility for what he becomes professionally, whether he stays in Portland or not.

 

[The Sebastian Express]

I normally like to read your posts, being that you're fairly unbiased and pretty knowledgeable. But this is just fucking bullshit. Give me names. EVERY, and I mean EVERY, self respecting individual who call themselves Blazer fans would love nothing more than GO to do well. By most people standards (and even GO's standard), GO has had a disappointing year. Yes, the foul problem mostly did him in, but who the fuck fault is that? Inability to stay on the court is a performance issue, and GO did not perform well there. People who are expressing their disappointment aren't "hating". They are simply being emotional (you know, "fanatic", where emotion is just a part of the term), and go on message board to discuss and rant a little. Ain't nothing wrong with that.

Your shit here is just weak.

There are about six people here who do it, at least a dozen if not more on BE, there's some on realgm. And they've been doing it consistently all year since game one. Rocketeer is correct.

 

[Minstrel]

Yup. Completely agreed. Although, if the Blazers feel that staying in Portland is the better course as far as helping his game (and Nate does feel this way) and GO refused to listen to their suggestion, it doesn't bodes well for GO's image as a team player who will do what's best for the team.

I've never really cared about whether an athlete's image is that of a team-player or not. All I really care about is production and how much he helps the team win. If he plays selfishly, that's relevant. How many team suggestions he takes or rejects really isn't relevant to me. I leave it up to him what the best course of action is to improve himself as a player. If he makes the wrong choice and fails to become a good player, ultimately that will be his responsibility. I assume it matters more to him than to me.

 

[rocketeer]

I normally like to read your posts, being that you're fairly unbiased and pretty knowledgeable. But this is just fucking bullshit. Give me names. EVERY, and I mean EVERY, self respecting individual who call themselves Blazer fans would love nothing more than GO to do well. By most people standards (and even GO's standard), GO has had a disappointing year. Yes, the foul problem mostly did him in, but who the fuck fault is that? Inability to stay on the court is a performance issue, and GO did not perform well there. People who are expressing their disappointment aren't "hating". They are simply being emotional (you know, "fanatic", where emotion is just a part of the term), and go on message board to discuss and rant a little. Ain't nothing wrong with that.

Your shit here is just weak.

i wasn't bringing it up as a way to call out specific people here. there are people here that what i said applies to. there are people in the national media who what i said applies to.

look at the post i was responding to and what my post said. oden isn't taking a pr risk by going to summer school at ohio state. were aldridge and durant taking pr risks by going back to texas for summer school?

the people who already have a double standard and attack oden for things they won't attack other players for are going to find something to feel that way about regardless of what oden does. reasonable people will realize that going to summer school at ohio state isn't going to hinder oden's working out and preparation for next season at all. that is my whole point. i don't have to name names to get it across.

 

[Masbee]

If he's not in excellent shape, he'll bear 100% responsibility for that either way. I really don't think his returning to Ohio State changes that. Ultimately, he bears full responsibility for what he becomes professionally, whether he stays in Portland or not.

Yes. True.

There are lots of great explanations in this thread for why him going to Ohio is no big thing, excuse, explain, etc.

But, his immediate boss, Coach McMillian, was not happy with his decision.

That to me is the big issue right now.

Sure, nobody yet knows if going to Ohio will affect his conditioning and development.

What we do know, is that he has disappointed his boss, his team.

And that counts as a failure in my book.

 

[Ghost Pepper]

Do any of you think it would be hard for GO to pick up the phone and call Hakeem, Bill Russell, Pat Ewing, Dave Robinson or even Shaq and have them help him over the summer?

If I'm a once in a decade center, who's lack of NBA skill, and my youth, is causing me to play under 20 minutes a game, I'm working on my shit!!!! It's that simple!!!!!!

If GO seeks to improve this way than I'm fine with him going anywhere...... but if he sits around and gets drunk and laid all summer, than we don't need to have anymore GO discussions. He simply doesn't have the drive to be great and we can move on to focusing on the real hubs of this team Roy, LA and ?????

Great players want it. The summer will be telling!