Ariza Piece

[Buffalo Custard]

I don't care what you find complicated or not. The dude had a son die. So he opted out to be with his other son. Maybe he didn't think Dame would go lights out and there wouldn't be playoffs.

The ones getting down on him, like you, should be ashamed. He prioritized his son over his team.

Get over it or eat a big fat D...!

Its really pretty simple.

The lack of compassion of some is a sign.......

None of which addresses the point. This wasn't an either/or choice. He could have both seen his son and been there for the team.

Dame was there for his team. Does that mean he doesn't love his kids? I reject the idea that common sense and compassion cannot coexist.

 

[illmatic99]

The dude had a son die.

huh?

 

[Buffalo Custard]

huh?

Actually, he has a son named for a brother that died. Not sure what that piece of trivia has to do with the discussion.

 

[kjironman1]

They needed him no question.

 

[Buffalo Custard]

I will say this, the situation on the court has spiraled so far out of control that it seems unlikely that Ariza could have changed anything.

 

[Orion Bailey]

huh?

Did I read it wrong?? I thought his first son died falling fro ma building? I admit skim reading at work now.

Either way I don't care.

I'm not gonna get down on him for opting out to be with his son. Prior to the bubble we had next to a nothing chance of making the playoffs and if it weren't for Dame going supernova, then we wouldn't be in.

He probably thought( logically) that we wouldn't be in the playoffs and his focus was on his family.

 

[kjironman1]

I will say this, the situation on the court has spiraled so far out of control that it seems unlikely that Ariza could have changed anything.

I have a tendency to think that with Ariza and with a healthy Collins the Blazers compete much better against the Lakers.

 

[Hoopguru]

Bron & Davis couldn't be contained/stopped even though we thought we matched up well with our bigs. Thats the difference.
The only way we beat them is if we outshoot them from three with a good margin.

 

[kjironman1]

Bron & Davis couldn't be contained/stopped even though we thought we matched up well with our bigs. Thats the difference.
The only way we beat them is if we outshoot them from three with a good margin.

With Ariza and Collins you make them work harder and the Lakers don't shoot as well then you get just a little bit more room to shoot on the offensive end. The Blazers were way too thin to take on a team as deep as the Lakers. Series showed that issue.

 

[Natebishop3]

This is 100% on Neil for not having the foresight to expect this sorta situation.

Does anyone else get the feeling that Neil never thought we'd actually make it to the playoffs?

 

[BlayZa]

one thing i did notice is that a bench of vets seems pretty useful. the extended bench of potentials, possibles, and maybe nevers, seems to be much less effective.

 

[kjironman1]

Gonna straddle the fence on this one. I absolutely do not blame Ariza for opting out. Pretty much every player and coach on the team agrees with this. But it would have been nice to have known the exact nature of the possibility of opting back in.
Here is another thing some might not be thinking of. Ariza would have needed to stay in shape or get in shape if he was going to opt back in at a later date. Maybe his whole idea was more like he didn't want to spend a number of hours every day he had available with his kid working out. Or resting from working out? Being with and spending time with can be two very different things.
Coming back after 4 months off and then another month just hanging with your kids can put you very out of shape.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Gonna straddle the fence on this one. I absolutely do not blame Ariza for opting out. Pretty much every player and coach on the team agrees with this. But it would have been nice to have known the exact nature of the possibility of opting back in.
Here is another thing some might not be thinking of. Ariza would have needed to stay in shape or get in shape if he was going to opt back in at a later date. Maybe his whole idea was more like he didn't want to spend a number of hours every day he had available with his kid working out. Or resting from working out? Being with and spending time with can be two very different things.
Coming back after 4 months off and then another month just hanging with your kids can put you very out of shape.

GREAT POINT!

People need to get off his back.

 

[THE HCP]

None of which addresses the point. This wasn't an either/or choice. He could have both seen his son and been there for the team.

Dame was there for his team. Does that mean he doesn't love his kids? I reject the idea that common sense and compassion cannot coexist.

Quality Post Alert

 

[Orion Bailey]

Gonna straddle the fence on this one. I absolutely do not blame Ariza for opting out. Pretty much every player and coach on the team agrees with this. But it would have been nice to have known the exact nature of the possibility of opting back in.
Here is another thing some might not be thinking of. Ariza would have needed to stay in shape or get in shape if he was going to opt back in at a later date. Maybe his whole idea was more like he didn't want to spend a number of hours every day he had available with his kid working out. Or resting from working out? Being with and spending time with can be two very different things.
Coming back after 4 months off and then another month just hanging with your kids can put you very out of shape.

Quality Post Alert

No it wasn't. It took zero consideration of the above post.

Yall are off your rocker giving Ariza shit.

 

[AldoTrapani]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.eu...099695/trevor-ariza-training-at-istanbul/amp/

Ariza in Turkey working out. Idk why but weird location to work out at

 

[Buffalo Custard]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.eu...099695/trevor-ariza-training-at-istanbul/amp/

Ariza in Turkey working out. Idk why but weird location to work out at

No extradition?

 

[blazerkor]

Wow, the Ariza hate is crazy shit. I mean the guy chose his son and I think he was ill informed. I think if the league and/or Neil would have said, you don't have to opt out and you don't have to show up, Ariza would have been like, "Cool, then why would I opt out." The fact is Neil didn't fill the last two available roster spots so he should have told Ariza, that there is no penalty for the team or Ariza if he opted in and didn't show up, he should have advised Ariza to keep his and the team's options open, since for whatever reason Neil didn't feel like filling those last two open spots on the roster. Also the NBA should have looked at the situation like human beings and let him come to the bubble when he wanted to, we had open spots on the roster and injured players. He should have been able to come into the bubble the same way Lou Will came back. Whoever you want to blame, I don't think the blame falls on Ariza... if he's not guilty of assaulting his son then it's obvious that he had to take the time with him when his son's mother said he could because she seems to be doing everything she can to take his son from him permanently.

 

[blazerkor]

No extradition?

That's really insensitive and foolish. If Ariza is guilty of criminal child abuse, it's nothing to joke about and if he's not guilty it isn't funny either. If you're being serious, get real. The police saw the evidence and referred it to family court, in other words they determined that nothing criminal took place. So an arrest obviously isn't happening. So yeah your post was in bad taste and just plain stupid.

 

[Buffalo Custard]

That's really insensitive and foolish. If Ariza is guilty of criminal child abuse, it's nothing to joke about and if he's not guilty it isn't funny either. If you're being serious, get real. The police saw the evidence and referred it to family court, in other words they determined that nothing criminal took place. So an arrest obviously isn't happening. So yeah your post was in bad taste and just plain stupid.

Sorry, didn't mean to trigger you.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Two true things:
1. Ariza was absolutely right to choose being with his son (although let's hope the abuse allegations aren't substantiated)
2. Gary Trent probably would not have blossomed in the way he did if Ariza had been in the bubble.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.eu...099695/trevor-ariza-training-at-istanbul/amp/

Ariza in Turkey working out. Idk why but weird location to work out at

Maybe he was on holiday? Or visiting friends who live there, perhaps playing in the Turkish league?