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PtldPlatypus said:
From everything I've ever heard about Tarantino films, I don't think they'd be my cup of tea.
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Damn man….. there are some real classics.

Pulp Fiction
Jackie Brown
Inglorious Basterds.

I would watch those three. I think Django was good, Reservoir Dogs and Kill Bill are good but might not be some thing you’d like. I couldn’t make it through Hateful Eight and I haven’t seen Once Upon a Time in Hollywood yet.

Pulp Fiction is excellent though.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
I feel like we need to know what Ant is going to do first. Can he be a star PG of a team that plays even better without Dame? If he doesn't have the potential to be a top starter on a title team I'm not sure it makes sense to pair him with Brown. Brown is a win now player, you move Dame off this team and put only Brown in his place don't we have the same exact lack of contention talent issues as now but just extended a couple years down the road? If the team is trading away Dame it probably makes more sense to rebuild with picks and raw players a number of years away from peaking.

But if trading away Dame paves the way for elite success from Ant, and we add Brown, plus some others assets to get a 3rd starter maybe it would make sense for that type of trade.
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If Ant IS elite, he will help Dame win this team a title. This is a big year for Ant. If he continues this trajectory to special it will be seen this year. If he falls back, it's not Dame's fault, it's Anfernee's.
 
Do yall remember when Jaylen Brown was thrown around as a target in a Dame trade and Blazer fans said there was no way the Celtics would trade Brown so it was stupid to even think that?

@Natebishop3 and I remember.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
Do yall remember when Jaylen Brown was thrown around as a target in a Dame trade and Blazer fans said there was no way the Celtics would trade Brown so it was stupid to even think that?

@Natebishop3 and I remember.
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There might have been a post or two but no I don't recall that being a consensus.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Damn man….. there are some real classics.

Pulp Fiction
Jackie Brown
Inglorious Basterds.

I would watch those three. I think Django was good, Reservoir Dogs and Kill Bill are good but might not be some thing you’d like. I couldn’t make it through Hateful Eight and I haven’t seen Once Upon a Time in Hollywood yet.

Pulp Fiction is excellent though.
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I liked Bastards as well. Totally agree on Hateful 8. Big Russell fan here, and that movie, to me, was trash. I love Western's and Tombstone was perfection. 8 was a total letdown.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
There were at least a couple posters harping on that.
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I'm not sure the Celtics would do that type of trade, although I don't think its stupid to discuss, its certainly in the realm of similar valued players.

Celtics have Brogdon, White, Smart already at guard, not a huge hole that Dame would fill. Brown can slide to SF much better than any of these guys.

Plus Dame has injury history, so I would think other teams are hesitant to give up max value until they seem him perform at his prior levels.
 
tykendo said:
I liked Bastards as well. Totally agree on Hateful 8. Big Russell fan here, and that movie, to me, was trash. I love Western's and Tombstone was perfection. 8 was a total letdown.
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Honestly, if @PtldPlatypus could watch just the first scene from Basterds.... the acting was amazing. Christoph Waltz absolutely killed that scene. He won an Oscar for that role. Such a great performance.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
I'm not sure the Celtics would do that type of trade, although I don't think its stupid to discuss, its certainly in the realm of similar valued players.

Celtics have Brogdon, White, Smart already at guard, not a huge hole that Dame would fill. Brown can slide to SF much better than any of these guys.

Plus Dame has injury history, so I would think other teams are hesitant to give up max value until they seem him perform at his prior levels.
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Dame is so much better than any of those guys it isn't even funny..... well... it's a little funny.

The whole reason why some of us have thought Boston might move Brown for a while now is because they need a legitimate second superstar player to win a ring. Brown is not a superstar. He's a really good All-Star. If they were able to get Durant or Dame to put with Tatum, that's a legit championship combo. None of those other guys you mentioned are even in the same stratosphere as Dame or Durant. If the rotation becomes crowded, you trade those other guys.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
I'm not sure the Celtics would do that type of trade, although I don't think its stupid to discuss, its certainly in the realm of similar valued players.

Celtics have Brogdon, White, Smart already at guard, not a huge hole that Dame would fill. Brown can slide to SF much better than any of these guys.

Plus Dame has injury history, so I would think other teams are hesitant to give up max value until they seem him perform at his prior levels.
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Wow! One injury and suddenly everyone saying he has an injury history lol. I don’t think anyone would say he is injury prone. And dame is not a wimp like his peers, he will actually play through injury like his recent injury for over 4 years. Dame is durable and the toughest guy in the league
 
tykendo said:
They're not everyone's cup of tea for sure. I didn't care for Kill Bill. It's too offbeat. Pulp Fiction is OK, but it's got so much cruelty, it's hard to watch at times. I do love Django Unchained. I love seeing dirt bags get toasted.
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Then you would love Once Upon A Time In Hollywood.
Dirt bags, get very toasted! (literally!)
Love Tarantino films!
Basterds, Pulp Fiction, and he was also involved in the original From Dusk Till Dawn.
 
Wade Garrett said:
Then you would love Once Upon A Time In Hollywood.
Dirt bags, get very toasted! (literally!)
Love Tarantino films!
Basterds, Pulp Fiction, and he was also involved in the original From Dusk Till Dawn.
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I see he's listed now as an uncredited writer on "The Rock". I enjoyed that movie. And I did watch Django. So I've watched 2. But apparently I have to put a couple more on my list.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I see he's listed now as an uncredited writer on "The Rock". I enjoyed that movie. And I did watch Django. So I've watched 2. But apparently I have to put a couple more on my list.
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For me, it's not so much Tarantino. His scripts are good, but some of the acting that he gets out of his people is amazing.

Pulp Fiction MADE Samuel L Jackson. He was fantastic in that movie.
Christoph Waltz was just sooooo good in Basterds.
Jackie Brown was just a fun movie. It had a lot of good actors in it. It had a good tempo. The story kept me engaged. I don't think it was really gory like a lot of his films.

I enjoyed the Kill Bill movies, but they're almost like comic books brought to life. Not sure if that's something you'd enjoy.
 
Love Tarantino and pulp fiction is probably my favorite - there are some lines in it that are just poetic, from Samuel l Jackson, Travolta and Bruce Willis. Add a killer soundtrack and excellent performances all around and it is hard to question it.

Say what, say what again, I dare you, I double dare you
 
WesleyMatthews said:
If I'm Brooklyn I agree to that deal ASAP!

A 25 year old star vs a 34 year old supermax declining player, injured half the time, who is forcing his way to his 4th team?

I'd probably prefer Brown to Durant straight up for most NBA teams, but Boston would also give up multiple picks?
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Getting greedy.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Dame is so much better than any of those guys it isn't even funny..... well... it's a little funny.

The whole reason why some of us have thought Boston might move Brown for a while now is because they need a legitimate second superstar player to win a ring. Brown is not a superstar. He's a really good All-Star. If they were able to get Durant or Dame to put with Tatum, that's a legit championship combo. None of those other guys you mentioned are even in the same stratosphere as Dame or Durant. If the rotation becomes crowded, you trade those other guys.
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Your post reads as if Boston lost in the first round..... Boston won 14 of 16 games needed for a title, they were about as close as could be and who knows what would happen if they played a non Warriors opponent or a Warrior had an injury, etc. They are the Vegas favorites to win the 2023 title. They added Brogdon for basically nothing. Tatum and Brown might have internal improvement next season, as opposed to over 30 players like Dame or Durant declining.

I'm not saying Smart/Brogdon/White is better than Dame, I'm saying Dame may not be enough of an improvement against those quality rotational guards to make up for the cost of giving up Brown, plus picks.
 
The Celtics are willing to give up on Brown after getting to the Finals and 2 away from a ring. Olshey did nothing after we lost the WCF
 
WesleyMatthews said:
Well sure, but he also makes 40 million dollars, can't hit a jump shot, and is a mentally weak competitor. He has a track record of poor work ethic all the way back to college. Now he is coming off an extensive back surgery after sitting out and resting for a whole year.

Plenty of young players were all stars in their mid 20's until they weren't and never get back to that level.

Could Simmons get back to that level? Sure in theory. But it seems much more likely he is never the same player, and might have even been a bit over hyped in his prior weak eastern conference "all star" seasons.
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I love the "extensive back surgery" bit. He had the most common procedure to ease lower back pain, it's called a disk bisectomy and it's anything but extensive in the world of spinal surgery. He wasn't a mentally weak competitor when he carried the team in the playoffs the year that Embiid was out. He hasn't been mentally weak. To imply that he doesn't have a good work ethic makes me feel like you've never watched the guy play defense. There's no reports of him dogging it in practice and there's plenty of video that shows him working in the off season... over his entire career.

It's cool though, the guy had a bad year, I don't know how serious his mental health issues are but he sounds very confident that he's coming back from them. One bad year and people are ready to completely write him off. And no he was not overrated he's an elite rebounder on both ends, he's an elite passer, he's a great ball handler and extremely elite for his size, he's an athletic freak and he's probably the best defender in the NBA. Not last season but before that if I had to pick one guy to get a stop against one random superstar in the league, not knowing the position, I'd pick Ben Simmons. He's also a great team defender. He won't take jump shots and gets in his head at the free throw line but that was all before he started to address his mental health. I'm not saying it's guaranteed we'll get a better Ben Simmons right when he comes back but there's a real chance. I think there is very little chance that he never plays to the level of excellence he had set for himself before last year.
 
DDolla said:
The Celtics are willing to give up on Brown after getting to the Finals and 2 away from a ring. Olshey did nothing after we lost the WCF
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Olshey's inaction was bad but when you have Tatum, I don't know if I want to do Brown plus a bunch of stuff for KD. With Tatum and Brown being so close in age and with them having just added Brogdon and Galo... I think they've made additions to their core that make them far better. I think going for broke over the next season or two with KD and then trying to figure out how to get that team around Tatum again after KD is washed would be too much change/an over reaction.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
There were at least a couple posters harping on that.
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I was certainly one of those posters. I didn't think Boston had it in them, given they seemed like only a piece away from winning. But, I certainly don't know everything. And that's ok. I'll admit to being wrong here. I'm not a psychic.
 
Wade Garrett said:
Then you would love Once Upon A Time In Hollywood.
Dirt bags, get very toasted! (literally!)
Love Tarantino films!
Basterds, Pulp Fiction, and he was also involved in the original From Dusk Till Dawn.
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I have the soundtrack CD from Dusk Till Dawn ..great soundtrack and always loved that film. Horror should always have comedy as a ground zero.
 
theprunetang said:
I was certainly one of those posters. I didn't think Boston had it in them, given they seemed like only a piece away from winning. But, I certainly don't know everything. And that's ok. I'll admit to being wrong here. I'm not a psychic.
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I've been wrong in my life and damnit I apologized both times!
 
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