Around the NBA (And Oregon High Schools) - January 2018

[handiman]

It happens often that American Players bullys Euro Player or am i wrong ?

It's more of a black vs white thing, but people generally don't like to talk about that... Racism is an acceptable topic. Reverse racism makes people squirm in their seats.

 

[AFully22]

Not quite that bad, but certainly not deep at all

Dame/Shabazz
CJ/Baldwin/Wilcox
Fournier/Turner
Collins/Harkless
Nurk/Meyers

Suddenly very thin up front, and I don't think Fournier makes us better enough to deal nearly every PF on the roster.

At this point, Wilcox and Baldwin aren’t on contract next year

 

[PtldPlatypus]

At this point, Wilcox and Baldwin aren’t on contract next year

True, but I didn't think we were talking about next year.

 

[THE HCP]

Everyone. When you are on the road, you get a good feel for relationships and how the guys get along. I think Afflalo was pissed he joined us and had to come off the bench at first, and it soured him. He was just a jerk really.

I think I'll write a book when I retire. Well maybe one of you will write it for me because I still don't know whether to use effect or affect correctly.

 

[THE HCP]

So, he's basically a jerk and a shitty fighter.

BNM

Like YOU!!!!!

 

[THE HCP]

It's more of a black vs white thing, but people generally don't like to talk about that... Racism is an acceptable topic. Reverse racism makes people squirm in their seats.

You know what interesting about this post, it's real. It's a cultural thing for sure. I work with a bunch of middle aged white guys. And I am quite sure my sense of humor shocks the shit out of em. They are used to it now, but I've heard guys say they were shocked I made fun of somebody's sister or was cracking on somebody's shoes........ that's just how I was raised. I rode the school bus and it was 90% black kids. It started in middle school with Yo Mama jokes and took off. They used to call it "stinging" or "clowning" on people.
You either stepped your game up and fired back, or you were literally looked down upon for not standing your ground. In a way it was like fighting. If you got off a good "sting" on somebody before you left the bus, you good for the day at school.
May sound weird, but I was raised around it. And when I was around my white friends, it just didn't happen. So when somebody usually says it's a black vs white thing, I kinda blow that off. But in this situation, I agree with you.

 

[andalusian]

I think I'll write a book when I retire. Well maybe one of you will write it for me because I still don't know whether to use effect or affect correctly.

Have you chosen your ghost cartoonist yet?

 

[THE HCP]

Interesting stat
Every NBA player 21 or younger/6'6" or shorter who have averaged 25+ in the history of the league.......

 

[THE HCP]

Have you chosen your ghost cartoonist yet?

It will not be a comic book sir.

 

[THE HCP]

These guys are going to win 50+ games without their best player. Preseason I swear some on here claimed we'd finish ahead of them........

 

[andalusian]

It will not be a comic book sir.

I see. A coloring book for the kiddies

 

[Pinwheel1]

May sound weird, but I was raised around it. And when I was around my white friends, it just didn't happen. So when somebody usually says it's a black vs white thing, I kinda blow that off. But in this situation, I agree with you.

Interesting, my experience was different. I grew up in NE Portland in the 70's and played ball after school with friends who were black, but for the most part I was pretty much surrounded by all whites going to a catholic grade school and highschool, and then in a fraternity at Oregon......and we were absolutely fucking ruthless to one another when we were clowning around. There were very few boundaries......and it was non stop.

Maybe it is a NE Portland thing......

 

[kjironman1]

Interesting, my experience was different. I grew up in NE Portland in the 70's and played ball after school with friends who were black, but for the most part I was pretty much surrounded by all whites going to a catholic grade school and highschool, and then in a fraternity at Oregon......and we were absolutely fucking ruthless to one another when we were clowning around. There were very few boundaries......and it was non stop.

Maybe it is a NE Portland thing......

Absolutely agree. I grew up NE Rocky Butte area. Madison HS. We destroyed anyone who could not come back with a burn. Up your nose with a rubber hose style. Started with Welcome back Kotter and Your Momma jokes. Bow you head in shame type thing....
It really must have been a NE Portland thing.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I think I'll write a book when I retire. Well maybe one of you will write it for me because I still don't know whether to use effect or affect correctly.

"How a forum of nerds kept my wife satisfied while I was on the road."

 

[THE HCP]

Absolutely agree. I grew up NE Rocky Butte area. Madison HS. We destroyed anyone who could not come back with a burn. Up your nose with a rubber hose style. Started with Welcome back Kotter and Your Momma jokes. Bow you head in shame type thing....
It really must have been a NE Portland thing.

Maybe it's a geographical/cultural thing and not racial?

 

[THE HCP]

Absolutely agree. I grew up NE Rocky Butte area. Madison HS. We destroyed anyone who could not come back with a burn. Up your nose with a rubber hose style. Started with Welcome back Kotter and Your Momma jokes. Bow you head in shame type thing....
It really must have been a NE Portland thing.

And now that I know you were a Senator, I wish I could take back all my LIKES I've sent your way FAMS!

 

[handiman]

You know what interesting about this post, it's real. It's a cultural thing for sure. I work with a bunch of middle aged white guys. And I am quite sure my sense of humor shocks the shit out of em. They are used to it now, but I've heard guys say they were shocked I made fun of somebody's sister or was cracking on somebody's shoes........ that's just how I was raised. I rode the school bus and it was 90% black kids. It started in middle school with Yo Mama jokes and took off. They used to call it "stinging" or "clowning" on people.
You either stepped your game up and fired back, or you were literally looked down upon for not standing your ground. In a way it was like fighting. If you got off a good "sting" on somebody before you left the bus, you good for the day at school.
May sound weird, but I was raised around it. And when I was around my white friends, it just didn't happen. So when somebody usually says it's a black vs white thing, I kinda blow that off. But in this situation, I agree with you.

Shoot, we might have rode the same bus to school.

There's a lot more to it than just the Yo Mamma jokes angle. Guys like Meyers and Brad Miller get under players' skin way too easily for it to not be purely a racial thing. We all know it with the "goofy white guy" references, but we tip toe around the underlying issue. White guys are expected to back down from a physical challenge, and it royally pisses off some black guys when it doesn't happen.

 

[THE HCP]

Shoot, we might have rode the same bus to school.

There's a lot more to it than just the Yo Mamma jokes angle. Guys like Meyers and Brad Miller get under players' skin way too easily for it to not be purely a racial thing. We all know it with the "goofy white guy" references, but we tip toe around the underlying issue. White guys are expected to back down from a physical challenge, and it royally pisses off some black guys when it doesn't happen.

Kinda like the beef between me and that dviss cat!

 

[kjironman1]

And now that I know you were a Senator, I wish I could take back all my LIKES I've sent your way FAMS!

Ha Ha! Senators always rule fams.

 

[kjironman1]

Heck back in the day Grant was a huge rival but at least they were cool. Benson was all dudes. Now the Techmen we really didn't like at all.

 

[THE HCP]

Heck back in the day Grant was a huge rival but at least they were cool. Benson was all dudes. Now the Techmen we really didn't like at all.

Ya, the only Benson kids I knew were my friends that went there to shine in sports. Never had beef with Madison guys. Now Jeff kids on the other hand.......

 

[THE HCP]

 

[dviss1]

It's more of a black vs white thing, but people generally don't like to talk about that... Racism is an acceptable topic. Reverse racism makes people squirm in their seats.

How could something that doesn't exist make people squirm?

Racism is just that, Racism.

 

[dviss1]

Maybe it's a geographical/cultural thing and not racial?

No it's racial. Black people tend to value material things because we don't have them. When someone was wearing some Volume/Payless shoes they were instantly stung on.

You had to be clever and come up with something funny to say. I really think this is where battle rap was born.

 

[dviss1]

Ha Ha! Senators always rule fams.

They've never been good during my school years. We SMASHED them at every sport.

 

[dviss1]

Ya, the only Benson kids I knew were my friends that went there to shine in sports. Never had beef with Madison guys. Now Jeff kids on the other hand.......

I was a "Jeff kid" for one year. My mother tried unsuccessfully to transfer me before I went. It didn't happen. Went to Grant the next year and was bullied far less. Had to SMASH this kids face for burning my Kid-N-Play flat top with a lighter.

 

[kjironman1]

Ya, the only Benson kids I knew were my friends that went there to shine in sports. Never had beef with Madison guys. Now Jeff kids on the other hand.......

We called them the Jefferson "Dancers". Ha! They sucked back then so they fit the bill.

 

[kjironman1]

They've never been good during my school years. We SMASHED them at every sport.

After the influx of Vietnamese in the early 80's things changed at Madison. A lot of families moved out of the area. Not sure if any of you are old enough to remember the racial wars there? Literally hundreds of Vietnamese students were thrust into the school in a couple years. Some of those students weren't even kids. They were 20-30 year old boat people. It was a tough thing for all to deal with.

 

[kjironman1]

I think Madison is now 5A instead of 6A? Do they still have the PIL as a division?

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Interesting, my experience was different. I grew up in NE Portland in the 70's and played ball after school with friends who were black, but for the most part I was pretty much surrounded by all whites going to a catholic grade school and highschool, and then in a fraternity at Oregon......and we were absolutely fucking ruthless to one another when we were clowning around. There were very few boundaries......and it was non stop.

Maybe it is a NE Portland thing......

Central Catholic? I, too, was raised in the 70s in NE Portland.