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Rhal said:
It depends on if we get the Harkless we have been seeing, the one from last year, or the one from earlier this year. Harkless from last year is better then Hood just to begin with and yes Hood makes a lot less then Harkless but freeing up capspace really does us nothing and the cost of a 1st round pick that from the look of this deadline, are valued extremely high by teams is just overkill.
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Harkless was never better than Hood... come on... a better defender but Harkless can't give you 30 any given night and at least 15 consistently...

https://www.basketball-reference.co...+Hood&y2=2018&player_id2=hoodro01&idx=players
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
Is it? Shabazz is not gonna be here next year, Hark is being paid for the next 2-3 years and Johnson is expiring. Our pick is gonna be in the 20s, so we are looking at getting another player of Swanigan's caliber on a team that needs a guy like Hood who has proven he can score and has good size. What looks better? Our current roster or...?

Dame / ET-Baldwin
CJ / Pat
Hood / Johnson
Aminu / Collins
Nurk / Davis
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I think we are going to keep Napier.
 
KeepOnRollin said:
We are paying the tax next year. No reason we don't keep Napier in that case.
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He won't get a huge deal anyway. Perhaps around $6M a year, we might offset that if we find a buyer for any of our bad deals, however if we keep Nurkic we will be paying the tax most likely anyway.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
It better be for less than 4 million a year then but knowing our shit GM he's gonna get the same deal or close to that Lou Williams got.

Napier NEEDED to be traded, we needed to sell high on a guy like him to a team that needed a PG.
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We don't know what teams were offering for Napier but lets not pretend it was some great haul. No team got a 1st round pick in return for a guy going to RFA. Should we have dealt him for a 2nd? Not imo.
 
KeepOnRollin said:
We don't know what teams were offering for Napier but lets not pretend it was some great haul. NO RFA got a 1st round pick. Should we have dealt him for a 2nd? Not imo.
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I would take a 2nd+a stash player for Napier, it's better than paying him to what may be yet another hard to move contract, I don't get the obsession around here of keeping and paying guys that are the definition of average, we already are a treadmill team with little to no flexibility, why make it worse?
 
Sarni said:
He won't get a huge deal anyway. Perhaps around $6M a year, we might offset that if we find a buyer for any of our bad deals, however if we keep Nurkic we will be paying the tax most likely anyway.
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Not going to worry about paying the tax next year if we can sign Nurk, Davis and Pat. If the goal really is a five year plan, the lineup should be jellying with Nurk, Collins and whatever rookies we get.... perfectly. We should be able to jettison at least one contract a year like we did Vonleh.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
I would take a 2nd+a stash player for Napier, it's better than paying him to what may be yet another hard to move contract, I don't get the obsession around here of keeping and paying guys that are the definition of average, we already are a treadmill team with little to no flexibility, why make it worse?
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You make it sound like we are going to pay him even Harkless money or more. You can pay the guy more than 4 MIL and still not have it be a bad contract. A 6 MIL contract is still VERY tradeable down the line compared to his skill set.

Napier is a very good player. I don't see him as average. I not seeing how keeping him hurts our flexability. He is instantly moveable down the line for a team that wants him. In fact I think he is much more moveable in a year and a half then he was now. A team now is probably only getting him as a rental.
 
Sarni said:
Crowder is an all right return. He used to be good only a year ago at Boston and Snyder might get something out of him... The whole Jazz team has been rocking lately so I won't be surprised if Crowder finds his form there.

Hood was gone in the Summer anyway. Nobody was going to offer much for a six month rental of a RFA.
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I thought Hood was a RFA next summer.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
Harkless was never better than Hood... come on... a better defender but Harkless can't give you 30 any given night and at least 15 consistently...

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=1&player_id1_hint=Maurice Harkless&player_id1_select=Maurice Harkless&y1=2018&player_id1=harklma01&idx=players&player_id2_hint=Rodney Hood&player_id2_select=Rodney Hood&y2=2018&player_id2=hoodro01&idx=players
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Take out Orlando years and Harkless is better on everything but pts and 3p% then hood especially when you look at advanced stats.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
I would take a 2nd+a stash player for Napier, it's better than paying him to what may be yet another hard to move contract, I don't get the obsession around here of keeping and paying guys that are the definition of average, we already are a treadmill team with little to no flexibility, why make it worse?
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So who do you want as our back up pG?
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
Ok... but what does our team need? Shooters and scorers...
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What our team desperately needed was defenders....we are so much better defensively than we have been since Wes went down it's not even funny....for years people bitched about our defense and we addressed that...offense will come but defense takes energy that we didn't have when we thought we could just out shoot everyone..
 
riverman said:
What our team desperately needed was defenders....we are so much better defensively than we have been since Wes went down it's not even funny....for years people bitched about our defense and we addressed that...offense will come but defense takes energy that we didn't have when we thought we could just out shoot everyone..
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Our defense has improved but that's because of having healthy Aminu+Davis, a big body like Nurk in the middle, and more effort from Dame. It's not like an inconsistent player like Harkless is the catalyst for our uptick in defense.
 
KeepOnRollin said:
An at least slightly better than average SF imo. Harkless is that. Hood isn't built for it long term imo. I think he is going to be a SG.
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Harkless is not a slightly better than average SF. If he were, he'd be starting every game now and not averaging 5.6 PPG.

Hood is the same size as T-Mac, Paul George and Andrew Wiggins I believe, that is a SF. He would be a good SF in Portland, especially when we have Dame, CJ, and Nurk all commanding defenses attention.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
It better be for less than 4 million a year then but knowing our shit GM he's gonna get the same deal or close to that Lou Williams got.

Napier NEEDED to be traded, we needed to sell high on a guy like him to a team that needed a PG.
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I agree, but thats our GM for ya, can't wait till Olshey is gone
 
Blazinaway said:
I agree, but thats our GM for ya, can't wait till Olshey is gone
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My guess is the most he could have gotten is a 2nd round pick. No way he would have gotten a 1st. We have his bird rights so anyone who really needs a PG....we could still get that 2nd round pick before the draft.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
My guess is the most he could have gotten is a 2nd round pick. No way he would have gotten a 1st. We have his bird rights so anyone who really needs a PG....we could still get that 2nd round pick before the draft.
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Nope. Can't trade a player who is a pending FA.
They potentialy could do a S&T with him in July, but Napier cannot be traded at this point.
 
ripcityboy said:
Not going to worry about paying the tax next year if we can sign Nurk, Davis and Pat. If the goal really is a five year plan, the lineup should be jellying with Nurk, Collins and whatever rookies we get.... perfectly. We should be able to jettison at least one contract a year like we did Vonleh.
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Aaagghhh. Ever since Olshey made excuses after his failed trade deadline, I've seen that mantra repeated on the board.

Next time you're almost 6 (or any number of) years into a job and you suck, tell your coworkers that you're operating on a 5-year-plan. That no one remembers. That exists only in your head. See how far that gets you.
 
BonesJones said:
T-Mac had a healthy Yao for years and Scola... In OKC Durant got froze out by Westbrook, so idk how having Russ helped Durant. T-Mac was always very inefficient, injury prone, and not the defender Durant is now.

Ive watched McGrady, so shut up with the I'm too young BS. With that logic, you're too old for 90% of the things you say.
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It was TMac who was injured all the time.

Durant is better.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
I would take a 2nd+a stash player for Napier, it's better than paying him to what may be yet another hard to move contract, I don't get the obsession around here of keeping and paying guys that are the definition of average, we already are a treadmill team with little to no flexibility, why make it worse?
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Napier will not sign a massive deal anywhere. I don't think he would be a starting point guard at any team in the league bar maybe some of the tanking teams, and they obviously won't be willing to offer huge deals to anybody. PG position is extremely strong right now so even a good player like him won't have it easy.

Funnily he is much better than any point guard Orlando have and they let him go for nothing.
 
ripcityboy said:
He's going to be lost on a new generation of fans. They won't know how great Rose was because it was only for a short while. But he WAS friggin' great.
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He is on a vets minimum so only a portion of that actually counts against the cap percentage wise. Not sure if the Blazers actually need him but they do indeed have a spot available on the roster. They also could always use the veteran portion of his ability.
 
If Rose didn't play well with Lebron and Kevin Love I don't see what he adds to the Blazers...he even walked away from the Cavs to deal with depression....there's a cloud over this dude's head and he's carrying some kind of weight or emotional baggage around. Can see it in his demeanor..maybe one injury too many or maybe something personal...he was a great rookie
 
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