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Nerlens Noel with 16 points and 13 rebounds last night as PHI won in MIL without Embiid and Okafor. Damn, I wish we would have gotten him while his stock was low.

Also of note from that game:

"Bucks: Miles Plumlee made his second straight start at center. He was inserted into the starting lineup for Monday's game against Houston, replacing John Henson, who had started 34 consecutive games. Henson didn't see action."

So, not only has Henson lost his starting job, he was a DNP-CD. Does that mean he may be on the move? MIL is splitting the center minutes between Plumlee and Greg Monroe, who had a season high 28 points last night.

BNM

Well I do like his 7'5' wing and 9'4" reach, but his stats sure don't jump off the sheets. How has he looked? If possible I would really like to find someone who they can pair with Mason. I like the chemistry he has developed with CJ, Dame, and ET. Not sure Henson has enough offense to be that piece. Maybe we go all in with Vonleh and see how he does. If we keep losing then maybe that PF we need is in the draft or international......
 
Henson has always been a good shot blocker, but he's a bit of a one trick pony. He's an average, at best, rebounder and has no range to his offensive game. Like Plumlee, he can't really score more than 3 feet from the basket. Which I think would make him a horrible match next to Mason.

He's not really starter quality. He does fine off the bench, but when forced into the starting line up, his production suffers. He's a back up that performs his best against other back ups.

Given our lack or quality big men, he'd be an OK bench player getting 15 MPG off the bench but I wouldn't really give up anything of value to get him. He's definitely not the kind of needle mover this team needs.

BNM
 
There are 4 teams that are 8-2 in their last 10....
One of them is the 76ers. They beat the Bucks tonight without Embid, without Okafor, without Ben Simmons. Their starting PG, TJ McConnell, had 13 assists and 3 steals on just 3 turnovers.

#RaisedEyebrows
Who's their coach? Asking for a friend...
 
Henson has always been a good shot blocker, but he's a bit of a one trick pony. He's an average, at best, rebounder and has no range to his offensive game. Like Plumlee, he can't really score more than 3 feet from the basket. Which I think would make him a horrible match next to Mason.

He's not really starter quality. He does fine off the bench, but when forced into the starting line up, his production suffers. He's a back up that performs his best against other back ups.

Given our lack or quality big men, he'd be an OK bench player getting 15 MPG off the bench but I wouldn't really give up anything of value to get him. He's definitely not the kind of needle mover this team needs.

BNM
Aminu for Henson!
 
Noel playing well right due to he his getting the minutes last two game. But before that he was averaging 13 minutes a game. Alot playing sure makes a differents.
 
Noel playing well right due to he his getting the minutes last two game. But before that he was averaging 13 minutes a game. Alot playing sure makes a differents.

I think the thought process in Philly is that he's playing well because he's not playing next to Embiid (he hasn't in the last 2 games).
 
I think the thought process in Philly is that he's playing well because he's not playing next to Embiid (he hasn't in the last 2 games).
I HOPE that is the thought process there (as then there would still be a chance he is traded). I don't think that is the case anymore though. He has played with Embiid and has shown they can co-exist. They did it much better than Okafor and Embiid did. Plus he is Joel's best friend on the team (not that it should matter but it might).
 
I HOPE that is the thought process there (as then there would still be a chance he is traded). I don't think that is the case anymore though. He has played with Embiid and has shown they can co-exist. They did it much better than Okafor and Embiid did. Plus he is Joel's best friend on the team (not that it should matter but it might).

Yep, PHI immediately started winning when they benched Okafor and started playing Noel and Embiid.

It's not like Noel was playing bad before. He just wasn't playing. He has a PER = 21.6, a TS% of .629 and ORtg of 119 and a DRtg of 101. That's for the season, not just the last two games.

BNM
 
Yep, PHI immediately started winning when they benched Okafor and started playing Noel and Embiid.

It's not like Noel was playing bad before. He just wasn't playing. He has a PER = 21.6, a TS% of .629 and ORtg of 119 and a DRtg of 101. That's for the season, not just the last two games.

BNM

With the way Embiid is playing it only makes sense to move Okafor....not Noel. Once they get Ben Simmons back I imagine they will want to run more. Okofor does not seem to fit that style.
 
Lets be glad you're not refereeing our children. There would be fights all the time.
Or maybe they'll learn an important life lesson about self control, being a bigger person, etc.

If you try fighting someone over some bullshit like that, you're an immature child, or an idiot, or both.

If a kid can't have any self control, or discipline to not fight in a gym, around his coaches and the refs, wtf is he/she gonna do in a different situation?
 
I think the thought process in Philly is that he's playing well because he's not playing next to Embiid (he hasn't in the last 2 games).
When Embiid was playing Noel was coming off the bench as his backup.
 
Synopsis then?
DMC helps build what they want to do, but he also destroys what they want to do. So, they don't know what to do.
The Kings organization is not respected, their GM has no experience, and their meddling owner is an idiot.

The good news: they have a new high-tech arena, and for now, the fans are sticking with the team.
 
Synopsis then?

Cousins is an asshole. A talented, possibly misunderstood asshole, but an asshole none-the-less. He will only play his best for a coach he trusts. He undermines the authority of his coaches and kills the morale of his teammates. He is supremely talented, but takes off 6 - 7 percent of his teams' possessions, often at critical times, either by pouting, arguing with the refs or otherwise acting out. By being absent on these critical plays, he kills his team's chances of winning and also looses the support of his teammates. None of his teammates, not now, not ever, will stand up to him and hold him accountable. His teammates consider him a bully. His feuding with the refs isn't limited to on the court.

The specific anecdotes of him shouting down multiple coaches in team meetings and film sessions and shouting down Bennett Salvatore during the annual preseason points of emphasis meeting were most troubling. He has a complete lack of respect for authority and no accountability for his actions.

"Nobody calls him out," the former teammate says. "It's an ongoing thing. Nobody holds him accountable, and nobody ever has. Sometimes we looked around when he was going at it, and everyone was thinking, Who's going to stop this?"

Vivek Ranadive, in spite of owning only 20% of the team has authoritarian control over all basketball related decisions. He knows less than nothing about basketball.

About the Vlade Divac hire as General Manager and Vice President of Basketball Operations, "Nobody in that position has ever been less qualified, less capable or a nicer person," says one league insider. Very true, nice guy and loved from his days as a player in Sacramento, but completely incompetent as an NBA GM.

"the team has turned eight years of top-eight draft picks into Tyreke Evans, DeMarcus Cousins, Bismack Biyombo (traded in a deal that eventually netted Jimmer Fredette), Thomas Robinson, Ben McLemore, Nik Stauskas, Willie Cauley-Stein and Marquese Chriss (traded for picks that ultimately netted Georgios Papagiannis, Skal Labissiere and Bogdan Bogdanovic)."

The trade market for a player as talented as Cousins is practically non-existent:

"One general manager says he wakes up every day hoping one of his rivals trades for Cousins. Another says "No f---ing way" when asked whether he'd ever consider dealing for him."

They will most likely resign Cousins to a deal in the $200 million range and nothing in SAC will change. Incompetent management on the basketball side plus a petulant man child who can't get along with anyone has been a recipe for failure for the last seven years, why should the next five or six years be any different?

BNM
 
DMC helps build what they want to do, but he also destroys what they want to do. So, they don't know what to do.
The Kings organization is not respected, their GM has no experience, and their meddling owner is an idiot.

The good news: they have a new high-tech arena, and for now, the fans are sticking with the team.

Yep, in spite of the shit show on the court, the team is profitable and has 11,000 season ticket holders.

In that way, they seem to be the new Clippers: years and years of incompetent management, high lottery picks and losing. But hey, they are making money, so it's all good.

BNM
 
I know the draft is a always a bit of a crap shoot, but when you're constantly picking in the top 8, you should have SOMETHING to show for it.

I find it ironic that Vivek Ranadive has a severe case of GSW envy, when if the Kings had drafted well, they could have had all of Steph Curry, Klay Thompson and Harrison Barnes, but instead, they took Tyreke Evans, Jimmer Fredette and Thomas Robinson.

And that's just three examples of their incompetence in drafting.

BNM
 
Which one of you wanted to trade for Rondo?



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Kanter broke a bone in his forearm tonight hitting a chair on the bench....
 
Do I really have to say who was taunted? It's obvious. Bottom line it's unsportsmanlike.
Is it taunting when players celebrate dunks or shots? Is it taunting to talk trash like Michael Jordan, or Larry Bird, etc.?Is it taunting to pound your chest while screaming and looking at someone? Is it taunting to clap? Is it taunting to say that "they can't guard me"? Is it taunting to stare at a ref? Is it taunting to tap your wrist, and say "y'all know what time it is"? Is it unsportsmanlike to do those things?

It's all subjective. I wouldn't say that what Mudiay did was sportsmanlike, but I don't really think it was more unsportsmanlike than anything else that goes on.

I'd say that what most players do after every dunk, or good shot, is definitely taunting, and probably could be considered unsportsmanlike. But that type of stuff is an element of basketball culture. Just like baseball or football. Not so much for country club sports like golf and tennis.

And for kids, I would say don't do stuff like that. Just like all my coaches told me growing up. But as they get older, it's kind of like.

"Hey, you're old enough to understand what you're doing. It's on you to make the decision of how you wanna act or be perceived"

We got our asses reamed for shit talking in high school. But every coach is different. It really sucked playing against teams whose coach didn't care if they talked shit. When ours would make the whole team run laps, etc.

I think there was a lesson to be learned though.
 
Is it taunting when players celebrate dunks or shots? Is it taunting to talk trash like Michael Jordan, or Larry Bird, etc.?Is it taunting to pound your chest while screaming and looking at someone? Is it taunting to clap? Is it taunting to say that "they can't guard me"? Is it taunting to stare at a ref? Is it taunting to tap your wrist, and say "y'all know what time it is"? Is it unsportsmanlike to do those things?

It's all subjective. I wouldn't say that what Mudiay did was sportsmanlike, but I don't really think it was more unsportsmanlike than anything else that goes on.

I'd say that what most players do after every dunk, or good shot, is definitely taunting, and probably could be considered unsportsmanlike. But that type of stuff is an element of basketball culture. Just like baseball or football. Not so much for country club sports like golf and tennis.

And for kids, I would say don't do stuff like that. Just like all my coaches told me growing up. But as they get older, it's kind of like.

"Hey, you're old enough to understand what you're doing. It's on you to make the decision of how you wanna act or be perceived"

We got our asses reamed for shit talking in high school. But every coach is different. It really sucked playing against teams whose coach didn't care if they talked shit. When ours would make the whole team run laps, etc.

I think there was a lesson to be learned though.

When you have to deal with the people who emulate this unsportsmanlike behavior on a daily basis then maybe you have a different view. It's Bush League and we can be better. Equating it to celebrating is a false choice. There's a line between taunting and celebrating. And you have to see people walk that line over and over to be able to judge it. And there was nothing sportsmanlike about what he did.
 

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