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dviss1 said:
Aminu would be open all series long playing against SA. They don't have a player who can guard Dame or CJ, and Nurk would have a field day.

I would LOVE to put TT and them on they're ASSES in the first round.
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If the Spurs beat us and it's because TT plays well that would hurt worse. I'm not predicting we'd lose but losing to them would be worst case scenario.
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
Not making any predictions or crazy proclamations but.....I’m curious as to how LMA might do with Collins banging on him for a good chunk of a game. Zach is WAY more physical (and mentally tougher) than Aldridge. Collins would probably foul out fairly quickly but I’m pretty sure that while his body might be back on the bench, he’d still be in Aldridge’s head. Whatever, I’d love to see it........
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Sorry man, but Zach would foul out in 10 minutes at most.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Hate to do this with so much still up in air. Don't wanna pull a Jinxspeed

Order of teams I'd rather play from best matchup to worst:

1. MIN- no playoff experience and Butler returning from injury
2. OKC- Paul George is the only guy that scares me on that team. They can stick him on Dame to slow him down, but Brewer/Russ don't have a shot at stopping CJ. Their defense is in the tank w/o Roberson.
3. NO- Holiday can be bottled up but AD would go off.
4. SAS- just don't wanna mess with them. Too much pedigree and too much Aldridge.
5. UTAH- I legit think we'd lose. Gobert is a freaking monster and Snyder is a genius.

Denver and LA climb to top of this list if they can make it in.
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You just typed that you are not worried about Russ if we play OKC. Serious question, do you believe the opposing PGs, coaches and scouts feel the same way?
 
rotary111 said:
We really don't want the Spurs. I hate to say it but LA will kill us.

We have nobody that can match up to him.
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Collins would nullify LA. LA has no handles and isn't agile - he's not getting around Collins. LA can shoot all the jumpers he wants.
Shit, put Bazz on LA and he'll back away from him and shoot a fade-away...if Bazz doesn't steal the ball!
 
dviss1 said:
Aminu would be open all series long playing against SA. They don't have a player who can guard Dame or CJ, and Nurk would have a field day.

I would LOVE to put TT and them on they're ASSES in the first round.
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I always thought Danny Green was a quality defender.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Honestly, regarding the Spurs, I've been tracking expected W-L since the beginning of March. Spurs have only won one game they weren't supposed to, and that was hosting the Warriors without all of their scorers. This current streak they're on is semi-fraudulent.

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Right? I was about to post this too. They really haven't beat any good teams. MIN was probably their best win all season.
 
blue9 said:
Right? I was about to post this too. They really haven't beat any good teams. MIN was probably their best win all season.
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And that was at home, of course. Do you know how many road wins they have over an above .500 team? Two, all season. In Portland 12/20, and in Cleveland 2/25. Every other road win they have this season has been over a bottom-feeder (I'm including their October win in Miami in that, because the Heat were awful the first couple months).

I don't fear a team that can't win on the road.
 
dviss1 said:
Aminu would be open all series long playing against SA. They don't have a player who can guard Dame or CJ, and Nurk would have a field day.

I would LOVE to put TT and them on they're ASSES in the first round.
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While I don't love the idea of winning a(nother) series on Aminu 3-pointers, I do agree with your assessment of the defensive problem we pose. Let's even give them the benefit of having Kawhii back and we're looking at:
  • Kawhii on Dame (good for SAS)
  • Green on CJ (meh for SAS)
  • Patty on Harkless (GREAT for us!)
  • LA on Aminu (meh for both)
  • Who? on Nurkic (great for us!)
If they put their best defender on our best player, we exploit the hell out of a mis-match. Even if they switch the Green/Patty assignments, that'd create two (albeit lesser) mis-matches for us to exploit. If they go traditional, Dame and CJ feast. If they go traditional and collapse on Dame/CJ we have open 3s. Unfortunately, Pops is too smart to pull a Tater and just throw a single look at us, and we'll have to be on our toes to recognize what the defense is doing every possession.

You get into the bench and you have Ed and Collins vs Pau - defense goes to POR. You've got Bazz vs Parker - defense goes to POR. Pat/Turner vs Ginobili/Gay - defense goes to POR.

SAS is one-and-DONE!
 
PtldPlatypus said:
And that was at home, of course. Do you know how many road wins they have over an above .500 team? Two, all season. In Portland 12/20, and in Cleveland 2/25. Every other road win they have this season has been over a bottom-feeder (I'm including their October win in Miami in that, because the Heat were awful the first couple months).

I don't fear a team that can't win on the road.
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The phrase "those in glass houses..." springs to mind and makes me curious about how many we've won.
 
I want the Spurs. Kawhi is great but he won't be back for the playoffs. We would sweep them if they're missing Kawhi.
 
blue9 said:
While I don't love the idea of winning a(nother) series on Aminu 3-pointers, I do agree with your assessment of the defensive problem we pose. Let's even give them the benefit of having Kawhii back and we're looking at:
  • Kawhii on Dame (good for SAS)
  • Green on CJ (meh for SAS)
  • Patty on Harkless (GREAT for us!)
  • LA on Aminu (meh for both)
  • Who? on Nurkic (great for us!)
If they put their best defender on our best player, we exploit the hell out of a mis-match. Even if they switch the Green/Patty assignments, that'd create two (albeit lesser) mis-matches for us to exploit. If they go traditional, Dame and CJ feast. If they go traditional and collapse on Dame/CJ we have open 3s. Unfortunately, Pops is too smart to pull a Tater and just throw a single look at us, and we'll have to be on our toes to recognize what the defense is doing every possession.

You get into the bench and you have Ed and Collins vs Pau - defense goes to POR. You've got Bazz vs Parker - defense goes to POR. Pat/Turner vs Ginobili/Gay - defense goes to POR.

SAS is one-and-DONE!
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I fucking love those Harkless mismatches. He just gets the lob and dunks it home!
 
blue9 said:
While I don't love the idea of winning a(nother) series on Aminu 3-pointers, I do agree with your assessment of the defensive problem we pose. Let's even give them the benefit of having Kawhii back and we're looking at:
  • Kawhii on Dame (good for SAS)
  • Green on CJ (meh for SAS)
  • Patty on Harkless (GREAT for us!)
  • LA on Aminu (meh for both)
  • Who? on Nurkic (great for us!)
If they put their best defender on our best player, we exploit the hell out of a mis-match. Even if they switch the Green/Patty assignments, that'd create two (albeit lesser) mis-matches for us to exploit. If they go traditional, Dame and CJ feast. If they go traditional and collapse on Dame/CJ we have open 3s. Unfortunately, Pops is too smart to pull a Tater and just throw a single look at us, and we'll have to be on our toes to recognize what the defense is doing every possession.

You get into the bench and you have Ed and Collins vs Pau - defense goes to POR. You've got Bazz vs Parker - defense goes to POR. Pat/Turner vs Ginobili/Gay - defense goes to POR.

SAS is one-and-DONE!
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You are OUT OF YO MIND! You think Aminu can guard LA? HAHAHA! I am actually laughing while I type.
 
blue9 said:
The phrase "those in glass houses..." springs to mind and makes me curious about how many we've won.
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Pacers, Wizards, Heat (December), Thunder, Clippers (twice), Jazz.

We have a decent road win resume.
 
HCP said:
You are OUT OF YO MIND! You think Aminu can guard LA? HAHAHA! I am actually laughing while I type.
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So I got 1 out of 5 wrong? Still good for a B!

Edit: Also, I said "meh for both". Unless we're playing SAS during a blue moon, I'm not gonna worry about losing to an LA-centric offense in the Playoffs.
 
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PtldPlatypus said:
Pacers, Wizards, Heat (December), Thunder, Clippers (twice), Jazz.

We have a decent road win resume.
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Decent-ish. Not great. Despite their records, I still don't really consider any of those EC teams to be good...or the last time we played LAC.
 
HCP said:
You just typed that you are not worried about Russ if we play OKC. Serious question, do you believe the opposing PGs, coaches and scouts feel the same way?
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In the last two minutes of the game, there is no one I trust less in a game than Russell Westbrook. So... in the playoffs I'd ride with Dame in the last two minutes than RW.
 
blue9 said:
While I don't love the idea of winning a(nother) series on Aminu 3-pointers, I do agree with your assessment of the defensive problem we pose. Let's even give them the benefit of having Kawhii back and we're looking at:
  • Kawhii on Dame (good for SAS)
  • Green on CJ (meh for SAS)
  • Patty on Harkless (GREAT for us!)
  • LA on Aminu (meh for both)
  • Who? on Nurkic (great for us!)
If they put their best defender on our best player, we exploit the hell out of a mis-match. Even if they switch the Green/Patty assignments, that'd create two (albeit lesser) mis-matches for us to exploit. If they go traditional, Dame and CJ feast. If they go traditional and collapse on Dame/CJ we have open 3s. Unfortunately, Pops is too smart to pull a Tater and just throw a single look at us, and we'll have to be on our toes to recognize what the defense is doing every possession.

You get into the bench and you have Ed and Collins vs Pau - defense goes to POR. You've got Bazz vs Parker - defense goes to POR. Pat/Turner vs Ginobili/Gay - defense goes to POR.

SAS is one-and-DONE!
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My biggest complaint after the Houston loss is "why didn't we go to Nurkless (Nurk and Harkless) more?" They ran the "Collins switch to CP, CP drains the three" for as long as they could and it really hurt us. We have great success with switching a non-center onto Nurk and then him backing them down and scoring. How in the hell did Nurk get only 10 shots and Harkless only 5? With Dame and CJ struggling, Nurk should have had 15-20 shots at least, and Harkless 10+. Houston saw CP had an advantage and ran it into the ground until Collins came out harder. We killed them with Nurkless and only got 15 attempts between them.

Next time we play a team that puts a SF or stretch 4 at center, we should Nurk them into the ground with it. I know Dame is a somewhat selfless player and did take few shots than average, but this was a game where I think they should have recognized the big mismatch and taken better advantage of it.
 
Reep said:
My biggest complaint after the Houston loss is "why didn't we go to Nurkless (Nurk and Harkless) more?" They ran the "Collins switch to CP, CP drains the three" for as long as they could and it really hurt us. We have great success with switching a non-center onto Nurk and then him backing them down and scoring. How in the hell did Nurk get only 10 shots and Harkless only 5? With Dame and CJ struggling, Nurk should have had 15-20 shots at least, and Harkless 10+. Houston saw CP had an advantage and ran it into the ground until Collins came out harder. We killed them with Nurkless and only got 15 attempts between them.

Next time we play a team that puts a SF or stretch 4 at center, we should Nurk them into the ground with it. I know Dame is a somewhat selfless player and did take few shots than average, but this was a game where I think they should have recognized the big mismatch and taken better advantage of it.
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Careful or Stotts just might banish you to the bench for 80% of the season!

Edit - we should probably take the Harkless talk to the Harkless thread, which has become a Pat thread... MODS!!!
 
HCP said:
You are OUT OF YO MIND! You think Aminu can guard LA? HAHAHA! I am actually laughing while I type.
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Aminu did a good job down the stretch on Towns and AD in previous games this year. Why couldn't he guard LA? All LA will do is shoot turn around fade away jumpers that have less than a 45% chance of going in (which makes it inefficient).
 
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