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BonesJones said:
It's not that we miss Crabbe. Napier is better than him. We just need a legit SF.
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The three guard lineup is not a long term strategy, we will get killed against any team with a legit SF or in any playoff scenario. It does increase Napier’s trade value though so maybe we can package him to land an actual solution.
 
Scalma said:
The three guard lineup is not a long term strategy, we will get killed against any team with a legit SF or any playoff scenario. It does increase Napier’s trade value though so maybe we can package him to land an actual solution.
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I never said to play 3 guards at the same time. Napier can get 24min a game just backing up Dame, with Dame backing up CJ. We need legit SFs.

If we could have a combination of Fournier and Crowder we'd be set...
 
the pick and roll with Dame and Nurk has been defended better this season because instead of Crabbe standing in the corner we have the brick squad of Harkless, Turner, and Aminu. Teams can just slide under the basket and leave any of those three wide open. If you don’t think we miss Crabbe, you have an agenda.

I still remember how people were trying to convince the small Crabbe crowd that his shooting would easily be replaced. Well....still waiting.
 
Napier plays that Lou Williams type of role IMO. I've wanted somebody to fill that role for a while. In terms of trading him, there's not many teams that would trade much for him, since many teams have better PGs already. I guess you could tempt a team like Denver, but would we want to make them better?

Could also tempt the Knicks. But what would you expect in return from New York?
 
Scalma said:
the pick and roll with Dame and Nurk has been defended better this season because instead of Crabbe standing in the corner we have the brick squad of Harkless, Turner, and Aminu. If you don’t think we miss Crabbe, you have an agenda.

I still remember how people were trying to convince the small Crabbe crowd that his shooting would easily be replaced. Well....still waiting.
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Yeah, we do need another shooter. I'm saying we don't miss Crabbe, we just need a legit SF who could hit a 3.

The only reason we would miss Crabbe is because Harkless and Turner can't shoot for shit. That's not a testament to Crabbe, that's just Harkless and Turner being awful from the outside. Their lack of range is why teams are shutting down the Dame/Nurk pick and roll.

Upgrade the SFs.
 
Labinot41 said:


That's good news for us.
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Ehh, he didn't fit well there, and it may not hurt them all that much. It just means more Faried and Plumlee, which is a pretty good pair of big men to replace Millsap's production.
 
BonesJones said:
Yeah, we do need another shooter. I'm saying we don't miss Crabbe, we just need a legit SF who could hit a 3.

The only reason we would miss Crabbe is because Harkless and Turner can't shoot for shit. That's not a testament to Crabbe, that's just Harkless and Turner being awful from the outside. Their lack of range is why teams are shutting down the Dame/Nurk pick and roll.

Upgrade the SFs.
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Sounds like a good argument for missing Crabbe. We’re going to have a hard time landing anyone better than him. Fournier and Crowder sound nice, but what would it take? And why would Fournier be available? He’s one of the few guys on Orlando that can create for himself. Hezonja seems like a better bet.
 
Scalma said:
the pick and roll with Dame and Nurk has been defended better this season because instead of Crabbe standing in the corner we have the brick squad of Harkless, Turner, and Aminu. Teams can just slide under the basket and leave any of those three wide open. If you don’t think we miss Crabbe, you have an agenda.

I still remember how people were trying to convince the small Crabbe crowd that his shooting would easily be replaced. Well....still waiting.
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Thank you! I loved Crabbe he was money from 3

He would fit perfect starting at the 3 for us instead of weak as she Harkless
 
BonesJones said:
Ehh, he didn't fit well there, and it may not hurt them all that much. It just means more Faried and Plumlee, which is a pretty good pair of big men to replace Millsap's production.
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Yea he has. He’s averging 15 and 6. Their defense went from one of the NBA’s worst to the middle of the pack this season.

Plus they have been 4.5 points per 100 possessions better when Millsap has been on the court this season for them.

That’s a huge blow he’s out 3 months
 
Scalma said:
the pick and roll with Dame and Nurk has been defended better this season because instead of Crabbe standing in the corner we have the brick squad of Harkless, Turner, and Aminu. Teams can just slide under the basket and leave any of those three wide open. If you don’t think we miss Crabbe, you have an agenda.

I still remember how people were trying to convince the small Crabbe crowd that his shooting would easily be replaced. Well....still waiting.
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It has. Not sure what you've been watching but Napier has done just that. He's literally shooting 65% from 3...
 
GrandJury said:
Yea he has. He’s averging 15 and 6. Their defense went from one of the NBA’s worst to the middle of the pack this season.

Plus they have been 4.5 points per 100 possessions better when Millsap has been on the court this season for them.

That’s a huge blow he’s out 3 months
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Won't be the reason why Denver falls off though.
They spend most of the next 5 weeks away from Denver. They're utter garbage on the road, especially with Murray coming back to earth.
 
dviss1 said:
It has. Not sure what you've been watching but Napier has done just that. He's literally shooting 65% from 3...
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You actually think that three guard lineup is sustainable? Let’s see what happens when they run into a team with an actual SF. Imagine those three in a playoff scenario. They’d most likely get killed. The credit goes to Stotts here for getting creative. Olshey however, has work to do, because if that’s their idea of a long term solution, good luck.
 
Here are some of the small forwards McCollum (or Lillard?) would theoretically have to guard in a playoff scenario with our three guard lineup.

Durant
Wiggins
George
Kawhi
Ariza

Lol.
 
GrandJury said:
Did Magic chase for stats? Or Lebron? They have a lot of triple doubles too
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No, they chased, and won, rings. Neither are/were shameless stat padders, trying to rack up pointless triple doubles at the expense of winning. Magic and LeBron make their teammates better. Westbrook, not so much. He makes his teammates leave.

BNM
 
GrandJury said:
Yea he has. He’s averging 15 and 6. Their defense went from one of the NBA’s worst to the middle of the pack this season.

Plus they have been 4.5 points per 100 possessions better when Millsap has been on the court this season for them.

That’s a huge blow he’s out 3 months
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Agree 100% .
Besides Jokic he is they best player
 
Scalma said:
Here are some of the small forwards McCollum (or Lillard?) would theoretically have to guard in a playoff scenario with our three guard lineup.

Durant
Wiggins
George
Kawhi
Ariza

Lol.
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I think that at some point Olshey makes an attempt to get a decent shooting forward. To go the entire season and not address that issue would be beyond folly. Plus we have the exception.
 
ripcityboy said:
I think that at some point Olshey makes an attempt to get a decent shooting forward. To go the entire season and not address that issue would be beyond folly. Plus we have the exception.
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Yeah I agree, question is who? Last year we had a general idea of targets (most wanted Noel, some of us Nurkic) but this year I don’t see any clear target outside of maybe Hezonja, but even that is more of a project than Nurkic was or Noel would’ve been.
 
Question:

What ya think of Caldwell Pope? He has really good defense and can hit the 3..

Would he fit as our future SF? Or is he too small?
 
Scalma said:
Yeah I agree, question is who? Last year we had a general idea of targets (most wanted Noel, some of us Nurkic) but this year I don’t see any clear target outside of maybe Hezonja, but even that is more of a project than Nurkic was or Noel would’ve been.
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Ugh. No more "projects." How did we get so many one/two tool players?! It's insane!
 
ripcityboy said:
Ugh. No more "projects." How did we get so many one/two tool players?! It's insane!
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The problem is they’re repetitive one/two tool players. It’s why in the offseason I wanted to trade one of Aminu/Harkless, and at least one of the bigs not named Nurk.
 
Scalma said:
the pick and roll with Dame and Nurk has been defended better this season because instead of Crabbe standing in the corner we have the brick squad of Harkless, Turner, and Aminu. Teams can just slide under the basket and leave any of those three wide open. If you don’t think we miss Crabbe, you have an agenda.

I still remember how people were trying to convince the small Crabbe crowd that his shooting would easily be replaced. Well....still waiting.
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Aminu is a good shooter.
 
how does anyone say Aminu is a "good" shooter, I like the guy a lot but stats are there for a reason, he's avg at best with a career 42.6% FG% and a .32.7% 3 pt %. Granted he's been decently improved at 3 the past couple yrs but it's still not what I consider good, avg at best. That said I'll take him over Hark in a second.
 
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