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I think this Wizards team is pretty close to being competitive against the best when everyone is fit (which is a big if with Wall's and Beal's history). They are IMO nailed on to go for Cousins before the deadline and can get it done with Otto Porter, or even a package of Gortat, Oubre Jr and another player plus pick. If they could get DMC without offering Porter they will be up there.
 
Sarni said:
I think this Wizards team is pretty close to being competitive against the best when everyone is fit (which is a big if with Wall's and Beal's history). They are IMO nailed on to go for Cousins before the deadline and can get it done with Otto Porter, or even a package of Gortat, Oubre Jr and another player plus pick. If they could get DMC without offering Porter they will be up there.
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Yeah I think I would keep Porter as well if I am the Wiz. And if I am the Pelicans I am not sure I make the trade without him. Gordat and Porter are both shooting well over 50% from the field and pulling down a combine 16 boards. Do they need more scoring with Wall and Beal on the floor? DMC likes his touches. I would rather have him over Gordat, but not Porter too. Is Oubre valuable?
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Yeah I think I would keep Porter as well if I am the Wiz. And if I am the Pelicans I am not sure I make the trade without him. Gordat and Porter are both shooting well over 50% from the field and pulling down a combine 16 boards. Do they need more scoring with Wall and Beal on the floor? DMC likes his touches. I would rather have him over Gordat, but not Porter too. Is Oubre valuable?
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I think he is valuable, he is still fairly young at 22 and has shot the ball fine so far this season. Not to the extent where you could get a superstar in exchange for him but should still be worth something in a trade.
 
Sarni said:
I think he is valuable, he is still fairly young at 22 and has shot the ball fine so far this season. Not to the extent where you could get a superstar in exchange for him but should still be worth something in a trade.
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So we sould be able to get Oubre on the cheap then?
 
Sarni said:
I think he is valuable, he is still fairly young at 22 and has shot the ball fine so far this season. Not to the extent where you could get a superstar in exchange for him but should still be worth something in a trade.
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so you give up a good young guy like Porter and perhaps Gortat for a half yr rental of DMC who then becomes a UFA next summer and can sign wherever he wants? Do you really take that risk and give up that much for Boogie? I don't, especially a talented loser and disruptive influence like him
 
Blazinaway said:
so you give up a good young guy like Porter and perhaps Gortat for a half yr rental of DMC who then becomes a UFA next summer and can sign wherever he wants? Do you really take that risk and give up that much for Boogie? I don't, especially a talented loser and disruptive influence like him
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Cousins is good friends with Wall. You would need to be sure he is going to sign with you next Summer, of course.
 
Sarni said:
Cousins is good friends with Wall. You would need to be sure he is going to sign with you next Summer, of course.
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Don't see why he wouldn't. Mahinmi, Smith, and 2/3 future 1sts might get it done.
 
Blazinaway said:
so you give up a good young guy like Porter and perhaps Gortat for a half yr rental of DMC who then becomes a UFA next summer and can sign wherever he wants? Do you really take that risk and give up that much for Boogie? I don't, especially a talented loser and disruptive influence like him
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Definitely not. Porter is as good of a fit next to their stars as Cousins. One of the most underrated players in the league. I wouldn't trade Porter for Cousins straight up.
 
BonesJones said:
Definitely not. Porter is as good of a fit next to their stars as Cousins. One of the most underrated players in the league. I wouldn't trade Porter for Cousins straight up.
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Porter makes $27M in 2019 though and Wall will start making $37M and there is also Beal who will also cost $27M. You can't have Cousins making $35M with them, someone needs to go.
 
Sarni said:
Porter makes $27M in 2019 though and Wall will start making $37M and there is also Beal who will also cost $27M. You can't have Cousins making $35M with them, someone needs to go.
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Yeah you can, just would have cheap role players and an owner willing to pay luxery tax for a contender.
 
BonesJones said:
Yeah you can, just would have cheap role players and an owner willing to pay luxery tax for a contender.
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What is a contender? WCFs? Not enough imo. The team has to make finals repeatedly to pay that kind of bill. Even the Warriors are likely to break up their team at some point due to the tax and they are winning (not just getting to) the finals more often than not.
 
honkicracker said:


Just another reason why I'm glad Portland has Damian Lillard.
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There was a tweet to dame a couple days ago that said Dame stared at him and then walked away. Dame replied to him and said something to the effect of "My ankle was damn near broken. Don't be that guy."
 
KeepOnRollin said:
What is a contender? WCFs? Not enough imo. The team has to make finals repeatedly to pay that kind of bill. Even the Warriors are likely to break up their team at some point due to the tax and they are winning (not just getting to) the finals more often than not.
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A teen with a chance to win a championship. A team with Wall, Porter, Beal, and Cousins is definitely a contender.

I don't think the Warriors will break up. I think the tax is overstated as an issue. You can pay guys 5-12 a total of $20M. And you could likely have some good bargains in there because it is a contender.
 
BonesJones said:
A teen with a chance to win a championship. A team with Wall, Porter, Beal, and Cousins is definitely a contender.

I don't think the Warriors will break up. I think the tax is overstated as an issue. You can pay guys 5-12 a total of $20M. And you could likely have some good bargains in there because it is a contender.
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GS is projected to pay 90 MIL in TAX this summer and 140 MIL in TAX next summer. That is no small potatoes. A team like GS could probably go for it for at least two years. A team like WAS who even with that lineup isn't winning a title couldn't imo.
 
Option 1: Fizdale to the clippers and they should fucking Move to Seattle! (Nobody needs 2 teams in los Angeles or Option 2: Fire Stotts and get Fizdale please. I am for Option 2
 
I dont think hes fired cause of their results, maybe it has something to do with Marc Gasol
 
Mr. Robot said:
I dont think hes fired cause of their results, could have had something with Marc Gasol, maybe...
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Stotts benches Nurkic...nothing

Fizdale benches Gasol...fired
 
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