Around the NBA - September 2017 Edition (1 Viewer)

[SIeepwalker]

KD and Curry are very different players though, whereas the duplicity of Dame and CJ skillsets & physicality limits their combined effectiveness (both score first guards).

IMO we need to trade one of them (Dame imo) for an all-star caliber small-forward, to have that level of talent spread-out at PG (CJ), SF (trade addition) & C (Nurkic).

Ban this guy

 

[Voodoo]

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How does CJs and Dames adjusts nut compliment each other? Both are just as good off the ball as they are on the ball. CJ is one of the best spot shooters in the league.

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Didn't realize adjusting nuts could be so complimentary.

 

[THE HCP]

 

[THE HCP]

They got Dame #17 ahead of some big name PGs

 

[dviss1]

But definitely not a "weak ass" one!

BNM

Which is why he has the best ability of any player in the NBA to assess their "quality". Journalism should have more Quality Analysts.

CJ the QA journalist.

 

[dviss1]

More wood.

 

[blue9]

And with a single tweet, CJ just became the most well-liked (by other players) player in the league.

 

[KingSpeed]

Yes BonesJones! I hate it when people want to trade for some guy that doesn't exist or isn't available. I always say WHO? Who exactly is this superstar SF you want to trade for?

 

[e_blazer]

Yes BonesJones! I hate it when people want to trade for some guy that doesn't exist or isn't available. I always say WHO? Who exactly is this superstar SF you want to trade for?

Yup. The only All-Star SF candidates that were in play this summer were Butler and George. Olshey made a play for George and KP turned him down. On Butler, outside of offering Dame or CJ, the Blazers couldn't have matched the Timberwolves offer of Zach LaVine, Kris Dunn and the No. 7 overall pick. Money issues aside, if the Blazers had offered Dame, they'd have CJ trying to play point, Turner playing SG, and Butler at SF. I don't see that mix being anywhere near as good as what we have.

Imaginary trades are always easier than reality.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Yup. The only All-Star SF candidates that were in play this summer were Butler and George. Olshey made a play for George and KP turned him down. On Butler, outside of offering Dame or CJ, the Blazers couldn't have matched the Timberwolves offer of Zach LaVine, Kris Dunn and the No. 7 overall pick. Money issues aside, if the Blazers had offered Dame, they'd have CJ trying to play point, Turner playing SG, and Butler at SF. I don't see that mix being anywhere near as good as what we have.

Imaginary trades are always easier than reality.

What, you don't think we could have tempted the Bulls with Vonleh, Crabbe, and the #10?

 

[handiman]

Yup. The only All-Star SF candidates that were in play this summer were Butler and George. Olshey made a play for George and KP turned him down. On Butler, outside of offering Dame or CJ, the Blazers couldn't have matched the Timberwolves offer of Zach LaVine, Kris Dunn and the No. 7 overall pick. Money issues aside, if the Blazers had offered Dame, they'd have CJ trying to play point, Turner playing SG, and Butler at SF. I don't see that mix being anywhere near as good as what we have.

Imaginary trades are always easier than reality.

Really? It would be a totally different style, which always brings with it unknowns, but that lineup would be soooo much more rugged and well balanced. Plodding compared to what we have now, but infinitely better defensively and no drop-off in ball handling, with three capable guys. Outside shooting may not even be much worse, with Butler picking up some of the Dame/Turner slack vs Mo/Aminu.

 

[dviss1]

What, you don't think we could have tempted the Bulls with Vonleh, Crabbe, and the #10?

Maybe all 3 and anyone not named Dame/CJ/Nurkic.

 

[BonesJones]

They got Dame #17 ahead of some big name PGs

And behind Hayward and Gobert, which is comical.

 

[BonesJones]

ESPN has Nurkic at 44, above LMA. CJ got better but slid from 26 to 31, which makes no sense. ESPN > SI here.

 

[dviss1]

It's a stupid fucking question that assumes we need to choose one, or the other. We don't. So, the correct answer is: both. No one is asking GSW if they should keep KD or Curry.

BNM

I liked this post buuuuuut GSW did trade Monta Ellis. I wonder if that was the topic of discussion in their forum.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

 

[dviss1]

And behind Hayward and Gobert, which is comical.

Gobert is turning into a good 2 way player. Buuuuuuuuut.... C'mon now..

 

[PDXFonz]

Yes BonesJones! I hate it when people want to trade for some guy that doesn't exist or isn't available. I always say WHO? Who exactly is this superstar SF you want to trade for?

LeDraykev Jagreerant

 

[e_blazer]

Really? It would be a totally different style, which always brings with it unknowns, but that lineup would be soooo much more rugged and well balanced. Plodding compared to what we have now, but infinitely better defensively and no drop-off in ball handling, with three capable guys. Outside shooting may not even be much worse, with Butler picking up some of the Dame/Turner slack vs Mo/Aminu.

I think it would depend on how well CJ could adapt to playing starting PG. I'd have to be shown that that experiment would work before I'd even think about it. Also, I'm not sure you could count on Butler being willing to stay in Portland in a couple of years when his contract expires.

 

[THE HCP]

Maybe this should start a new thread for training camp but ...

Yes it should

 

[handiman]

I think it would depend on how well CJ could adapt to playing starting PG. I'd have to be shown that that experiment would work before I'd even think about it. Also, I'm not sure you could count on Butler being willing to stay in Portland in a couple of years when his contract expires.

No argument there, but that's a totally separate matter from whether the lineup would be as good as what we have now.

CJ being a full-time PG isn't that big of a stretch, given what we've already seen from him. Butler and Turner take a huge ball handling load off him, so I don't see that being an issue. The dropoff there would be so much less than what is gained defensively and in floor balance, I'd have to take the position that it would be a disappointment if that lineup weren't significantly better.

Think of it this way, if you're facing CJ/Turner/Butler/Noah/Nurk, you know you're going to be beat to hell by the end of the night. Against our current lineup, you expect to be winded but that's about it.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[HailBlazers]

ESPN has Nurkic at 44, above LMA. CJ got better but slid from 26 to 31, which makes no sense. ESPN > SI here.

All I care about.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[PDXFonz]

 

[WillG]

Cj, Turner, Butler was pretty much exactly what I was thinking. I was holding out for the Blazers to make a play on Butler.
Yes the offensive output would drop a little - but the defensive increase is massive.

Another player I would trade him for is Anthony Davis, to plug in next to Nurk.

I like Dame off the court (personality - not the rap BS), but just not a fan of his total game on the court. Way over-rated. His defense is woeful. Till he can bring up his defensive play - he's only half of a great player - and should not be mentioned with the likes of Blazer greats (like Drexler).

 

[Strenuus]

I will ban you with complete justification for posting this filth.

 

[e_blazer]

Should be orange colored.

 

[RipCityDSCPL]

How much in BitCoin did HCP pay you to post that on here?

 

[Cippy91]