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TBpup said:
What is humorous about that? "all the docs I submitted that question to". In my work, I deal with quite a number of various different types of Dr's in the Portland area on a regular basis. If there is an issue with what they have said or explained, then again, I'm an enlightened by this forum much more so than their puny medical experience.
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That's where you get the shot. In the deltoid muscle surrounding the humorous (humerus)
 
Fairly-Hard said:
I don't have "All the Doc's" but I have one that I do trust.
He says get vaccinated. I trust him and I did. It was pretty simple for me.

If you have a doctor I suggest you ask him. If you don't trust his opinion on the issue then I would suggest you get a doctor you do trust.
Again this is pretty simple.
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No where anywhere did I mention anything about not getting vaccinated. It is sadly predicitable it has come to that type of implication, or about how many Dr's I've talked to about the original point.....which was that a vaccine that only lasted 2 months before needing a boosted wasn't exactly the height of efficiency or quality.

I had it (so have natural immunities which are much stronger) AND got a vaccine. Guess I shouldn't be surprised that instead of addressing the original point, it segmented off into something entirely different.
 
TBpup said:
I guess I stand corrected. 2 months effectiveness for a vaccine is good before being told you have to take the booster. I've been convinced. Thank you all for the excellent medical wisdom. Is doesn't quite match up with all the Docs I submitted the same question to, but I've convinced them to to read this forum to get better educated. :D
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what are you talking about? I really can't tell

first of all, define "effectiveness"....because I am not sure where you're getting this 2 month benchmark and what you think the data shows

" Between Dec 14, 2020, and Aug 8, 2021, of 4 920 549 individuals assessed for eligibility, we included 3 436 957 (median age 45 years [IQR 29–61]; 1 799 395 [52·4%] female and 1 637 394 [47·6%] male). For fully vaccinated individuals, effectiveness against SARS-CoV-2 infections was 73% (95% CI 72–74) and against COVID-19-related hospital admissions was 90% (89–92). Effectiveness against infections declined from 88% (95% CI 86–89) during the first month after full vaccination to 47% (43–51) after 5 months. Among sequenced infections, vaccine effectiveness against infections of the delta variant was high during the first month after full vaccination (93% [95% CI 85–97]) but declined to 53% [39–65] after 4 months. Effectiveness against other (non-delta) variants the first month after full vaccination was also high at 97% (95% CI 95–99), but waned to 67% (45–80) at 4–5 months. Vaccine effectiveness against hospital admissions for infections with the delta variant for all ages was high overall (93% [95% CI 84–96]) up to 6 months."

" In a pivotal randomised controlled trial, the BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine (tozinameran, Pfizer–BioNTech) showed 95% or greater efficacy against symptomatic and severe COVID-19 disease due to SARS-CoV-2.
In the early months after its introduction, BNT162b2 has been shown to be highly effective in the real-world setting and to have had a large public health effect on reducing infections, hospital admissions, and deaths at a time when the alpha (B.1.1.7) variant was the predominant strain in Israel,the USA, Canada, the UK, and Qatar.

The continual emergence of SARS-CoV-2 variants has raised concern that COVID-19 vaccines could have reduced effectiveness against new viral strains; however, BNT162b2 has shown robust amounts of neutralising antibodies against all variants of concern evaluated to date.
Moreover, confirmatory, real-world studies have shown high effectiveness of two doses of BNT162b2 against COVID-19, especially severe disease, caused by variants of concern alpha, beta (B.1.351), and delta in various settings."

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)02183-8/fulltext

it's a long, technical article detailing statistical analysis...if you're interested

I said this in another post, but maybe you should learn a little about influenza vaccination effectiveness to have a baseline to gauge Covid vaccine effectiveness. They are both vaccines to protect against viruses. Flu vaccines wane faster than the mNRA Covid vaccines, and they don't start out with as high a level of initial effectiveness.

and if you're talking about 50% effectiveness for Pfizer and Moderna after 4-6 months, the gauge isn't some imaginary false standard of perfection, it's 50% protection vs 0% protection for the un-vaccinated. And that doesn't even gauge the effectiveness of these covid vaccines to prevent severe illness, hospitalizations, and death in breakthrough cases
 
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wizenheimer said:
Dame has never had the luxury of a player like Draymond. The closest he's had is Nic Batum, and that was 7 years ago.
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CJ for Draymond and Kuminga.

Then CJ can fuck over Curry
 
FlashWad said:
Man I wish we had Thibodeau here.. but yeah hear this all the time from fans.
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Tom has a track record of burning out his teams quickly.
 
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Buffalo Custard said:
https://pippenainteasy.com/2021/11/...ck-jones-jr-producing-at-an-astounding-level/

You have to wonder who was to blame for Jone's wretched stay in Portland. Should Stotts be blamed for not being able to get any value out of a useful player? Should Olshey be blamed for getting a player that fell outside of Stotts' prefered parameters?
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[Grits teeth] HAPPY FOR HIM!

(Kind of interesting that Portland were widely (including by me) viewed to have won the Bulls-Cavs-Blazers trade, but it's the other two teams that are flourishing.)
 
Rastapopoulos said:
[Grits teeth] HAPPY FOR HIM!

(Kind of interesting that Portland were widely (including by me) viewed to have won the Bulls-Cavs-Blazers trade, but it's the other two teams that are flourishing.)
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And there were people here thinking that trade might put as at #1 in the west. This year's Jazz.

Hahahahahhahahahhaha
 
Jones just wasted a season in Portland. Nice to see him doing good.
 
Buffalo Custard said:
https://pippenainteasy.com/2021/11/...ck-jones-jr-producing-at-an-astounding-level/

You have to wonder who was to blame for Jone's wretched stay in Portland. Should Stotts be blamed for not being able to get any value out of a useful player? Should Olshey be blamed for getting a player that fell outside of Stotts' prefered parameters?
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here's the obligatory "it's way too early" statement...and it is way too early

Jones has only played in 7 games and is averaging nearly 7 minutes less than he did for Portland. He's only attempted 24 FG's (Little has attempted 60), and he won't keep shooting 85% on two's. He has 2 assists and is shooting 100% on FT's when his career mark is 69%

all his numbers are ridiculously skewed by sample size
 
Knicks coach Thibs benching starters: “you know what they say: when it’s 10 games they say you need 20. When it’s 20, they say you need 30; at 30, you say 40. And before you know it the season is over. So that’s a bunch of bullshit”

Take note Chauncey.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
And there were people here thinking that trade might put as at #1 in the west. This year's Jazz.

Hahahahahhahahahhaha
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Last year’s Jazz started 4-4. Last year’s Suns started 8-8 and made it to Finals. It’s still very early. Bucks got off to slow start last year too.
 
TBpup said:
I guess I stand corrected. 2 months effectiveness for a vaccine is good before being told you have to take the booster. I've been convinced. Thank you all for the excellent medical wisdom. Is doesn't quite match up with all the Docs I submitted the same question to, but I've convinced them to to read this forum to get better educated. :D
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What are the names of these doctors? What are their specialities, and what are their exact opinions?
 
KSF-ERIC said:
Last year’s Jazz started 4-4. Last year’s Suns started 8-8 and made it to Finals. It’s still very early. Bucks got off to slow start last year too.
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first 6 road games for those other teams last season; Portland this season:

Utah 4-2
LAC 4-2 (played in conf. finals)
Phoenix 4-2 (played in conf. finals)
Milwaukee 3-3 (played in conf. finals)
Atlanta 3-3 (played in conf. finals)
Denver 4-2

Portland 0-6

good teams win on the road
 
wizenheimer said:
first 6 road games for those other teams last season; Portland this season:

Utah 4-2
LAC 4-2 (played in conf. finals)
Phoenix 4-2 (played in conf. finals)
Milwaukee 3-3 (played in conf. finals)
Atlanta 3-3 (played in conf. finals)
Denver 4-2

Portland 0-6

good teams win on the road
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I believe we had the best in season road record in the league last year and we were average at best.
 
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