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It would’ve worked fine. Some would play, some wouldn’t. Every team has 13 players. They don’t all play.

The 13th man getting DNP aren't normally multi time all stars. DeAndre Gasol Dwight wouldn't have been fine with that if they all had stayed on the team. That's why declining all stars are the hardest player to coach, their opinion of themselves doesn't match their current abilities.
 
The 13th man getting DNP aren't normally multi time all stars. DeAndre Gasol Dwight wouldn't have been fine with that if they all had stayed on the team. That's why declining all stars are the hardest player to coach, their opinion of themselves doesn't match their current abilities.
Unless your name is Dirk.....
 
But we didn’t replace Kanter with Nance, we replaced him with Zeller. He is nowhere near the player Kanter is.
Defensely he is zellars will challenge shots at the rim and Kanter not so much. Yes kanter is better rebounders then zellars but we still got out rebound majority of our games.
 
I can have an opinion on Stotts and my opinion is that he should've been fired after the NOP series.

In the GSW series and in the NOP series Dame was being trapped as soon as he crossed half court. This was without a pick and roll.

Stotts did not adjust. This is why we lost BOTH of those series. It was also Stotts who lost us the series vs DEN when he had Melo and Kanter in simultaneously. He didn't learn during that series as he continued to put both of them in together.

Any coach that would've put a leash on Dame would be a bad coach IMO. Chauncey included.
The problem is Dame didn't adjust to the trap either.
 
I'm curious, so I'm going to check how Portland's defense performed in 2018-19 after Nurkic went down and Kanter took over the starting role

first, defensive ratings in the regular season games:

108.8
97.2
99.4
122.1 (game Portland won by 10)
92.3
128.7 (Denver at Denver)
109.0 (Denver at Portland)
103.3
134.5 (that was the Kings game when the starters didn't play)

keeping in mind the Blazers had a 116.0 defensive rating last season, those individual game ratings look pretty good.

so, how about defensive ratings that year in the playoffs?

against OKC 105.6
against Denver 115.1
against Warriors 116.1

all that with Kanter starting

and this season, with Kanter averaging 11 points including a DNP-CD, Portland's rating against Denver was 123.4. In other words, Portland absolutely sucked at defense and it wasn't Kanter's fault
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so yeah, I'd agree with Calvin Natt that people are exaggerating how bad Kanter is on defense. Portland performed a hell of a lot better on defense according to those numbers with Kanter as the starting C and a roster that was much better at defense. The reason Kanter may have been "unplayable" against the Nuggets this season is that Portland had defensive sieves all over the floor in Dame, CJ, Powell (yes, him too), Melo, and Simons
There a lot goes into a stat to make someone better then they are. But defending the basket Kanter suck doing it period. Contesting a shot he suck period. What help him in his stat he a good rebounder as said a lot goes into stat.
 
Defensely he is zellars will challenge shots at the rim and Kanter not so much. Yes kanter is better rebounders then zellars but we still got out rebound majority of our games.
And without Kanter that number will go up. And as far as challenging shots at the rim, it’s ok for Zeller to do it, yet Whiteside got murdered in here for being the best in the NBA at doing it. Zeller will not help this team anywhere near as much as Kanter.
 
And without Kanter that number will go up. And as far as challenging shots at the rim, it’s ok for Zeller to do it, yet Whiteside got murdered in here for being the best in the NBA at doing it. Zeller will not help this team anywhere near as much as Kanter.
We will see.
 
The problem is Dame didn't adjust to the trap either.

Agreed. Dame doesn't get enough blame for his failures in the trap.

In the Lakers bubble playoffs Dame was injured and they started trapping the hell out of CJ. He made quick simple passes to the open man and gave his teammates great opportunities for 4v3. Dame cant seem to ever do these simple plays, he forces half court shots or tries splitting doubles.
 
Canzano: Oregon Ducks knock off Ohio State -- and anything now feels possible

COLUMBUS, Ohio — DJ Johnson, a tight end in his other life at the University of Oregon, turned pass rusher in a pinch and took Ohio State quarterback C.J. Stroud to the turf on Saturday.

The game-ending sack set off a 100,482-person fire drill at Ohio Stadium.

Final score: Oregon 35, Ohio State 28.

Big win for the Ducks. Big win for the Pac-12 Conference. But my eyes found Oregon coach Mario Cristobal amid the celebration — biggest win of all for the guy in charge in Eugene. Yet here Cristobal was, stoic with his players celebrating all around him. The Oregon coach peeled the cord of his coaching headset off his belt. He took a few steps, bookended by a couple of Columbus Police Department officers.

There was no fist pump.

No smile.

But this sure was a five-star victory wasn’t it?

I looked, too, at midfield where Baker Mayfield planted Oklahoma’s flag in the ground in 2017. That was the last time anybody in a football helmet and pads came to The Ohio State University and beat the Buckeyes. Noah Sewell, the heart and hammer of Oregon’s defense stood tall on the “O.” He held both arms down, his palms open, his head back and face mask raised toward the clouds, and he shouted with joy.

Maybe you did the same thing in your living room. Because what the Oregon Ducks did on Saturday in the toughest place to play in college football was a remarkable breakthrough. The Ducks didn’t just beat Ohio State, they out-Buckeye’d the Buckeyes — out-rushing them 269-128 in what is undoubtedly the signature win of Cristobal’s tenure.

Also, a huge win for Pac-12 Commissioner George Kliavkoff, who breezed by press row at Ohio Stadium in the second half and quipped, “Enjoying the Alliance so far, guys?”

Sure feels different, Mr. Commish.

The Pac-12 needed this one, didn’t it? We’ve been talking about this Week 2 date for more than a year, and unlike the chronic letdowns we’ve received in other years, the conference delivered via Oregon. Not by eking out a win or lucking out. But by the Ducks being the better offensive and defensive team, and by making a statement about their superior physicality.

Big win for the Ducks, right? Maybe you loved Oregon’s victory over Florida State in the College Football Playoff at the Rose Bowl on the first day of 2015. Maybe you enjoyed the Ducks throttling Michigan 39-7 in Ann Arbor in 2007. Maybe you think “big football win” and go to the 1917 Rose Bowl win over the Penn Quakers under then-Oregon coach Hugo Bezdek. But this victory over Ohio State wasn’t a swaggy bowl victory at the end of a season, it felt more like a beginning.

That brings us back to Cristobal, of course.

He’s the big guy with the big-game dreams.

A week ago, after an unimpressive season-opening victory over Fresno State, fans murmured about the Ducks’ coach. They nitpicked quarterback Anthony Brown Jr. They criticized the UO pass defense, and wondered how in the world Oregon would run the ball on mighty Ohio State if it couldn’t even do it against a Mountain West opponent.

CJ Verdell went for 161 yards on 20 carries on Saturday. Oregon averaged 7.1 yards per rush. The postgame news conference on the Ohio State side came with a line of pointed questions.

“How surprised were you that they were able to run the ball like that?” one reporter asked.

There were no real answers for the Buckeyes.

Cristobal got a thrilling victory. More importantly, Oregon’s win serves as evidence that he’s not only recruited four- and five-star talent, but also, that Cristobal and his staff have an idea what to do with it once they have it. That’s been the lingering unknown for the Ducks. Saturday’s win was Exhibit A.

Joe Moorhead’s offensive game plan was marvelous. His pass patterns were so beautiful they looked like layer cake. His edge-rush game in the red zone was sweeter than frosting. The Ducks dictated tempo and played to win, and in the end, the way it unfolded made Ohio State look suspect.

Buckeyes coach Ryan Day said afterward: “It was a game we never really felt like we were in control of.”

Oregon’s defense was without stars Kayvon Thibodeaux and Justin Flowe. Defensive coordinator Tim DeRuyter ran schemes that made up for it and called upon Johnson — who played both ways on Saturday — as a situational pass rusher.

It wasn’t ideal, but it worked.

Cristobal will talk all week about the other work that needs to be done, of course. He’s got a matter-of-fact mentality. He rises insanely early, offers no excuses, and quotes from books written by Navy SEALs. He will celebrate, but not for more than a few minutes. He’ll focus instead on what went wrong on Saturday because that’s what good football coaches do.

Ohio State gained 612 yards on offense. Stroud, who passed for 484 yards and three touchdowns, nearly stole the game from the Ducks late. But those are thoughts for another day because what Oregon accomplished on Saturday was nothing short of remarkable.

The victory makes you wonder ... could the Ducks win another Pac-12 North Division title?

Another Pac-12 title?

Make the College Football Playoff?

What else is out there?

This is a program that can’t stumble in Pac-12 Conference play. It must know that it’s not dominant enough to show up and win in most weeks. The Ducks have to focus, execute and the game plan has to be solid. The victory didn’t announce that No. 12-ranked Oregon has arrived nationally as much as it indicated that anything is possible for it this season.

Wrap your head around that.

Early in Cristobal’s tenure he messaged me in ALL CAPS, “I PROMISE YOU THAT WE WILL REBUILD THIS THE RIGHT WAY.”

https://www.oregonlive.com/sports/j...io-state-and-anything-now-feels-possible.html
 
And without Kanter that number will go up. And as far as challenging shots at the rim, it’s ok for Zeller to do it, yet Whiteside got murdered in here for being the best in the NBA at doing it. Zeller will not help this team anywhere near as much as Kanter.
Challenging shots and blocking shots are two different things. Whiteside led league in blocked shots but was not the best rim protector. Kanter got benched in favor of RHJ in the playoffs. Letting go of Kanter was a good move. Zeller is underrated.
 
Agreed. Dame doesn't get enough blame for his failures in the trap.

In the Lakers bubble playoffs Dame was injured and they started trapping the hell out of CJ. He made quick simple passes to the open man and gave his teammates great opportunities for 4v3. Dame cant seem to ever do these simple plays, he forces half court shots or tries splitting doubles.
Yeah it’s weird and for some reason Stotts got blamed for it.
 
That awkward moment when @THE HCP realizes that Westbrook has been banging his wife and also stealing her clothes.

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Hey he's free and easy. Scotsmen have been doing this for Eons.
would be pretty awkward to pee in a urinal with that on....I guess he could hold the hem in his teeth
would be pretty awkward to pee in a urinal with that on....I guess he could hold the hem in his teeth
Unfortunately, worked for Cintas in the Sanis division. Basically a janitor. Urinals are way more nasty to clean than toilets. Urine cheese is a bitch to get out of the crevices. And the major cause of terrible urinal smell. He's better off using a stall. I know TMI.
 
Hey he's free and easy. Scotsmen have been doing this for Eons.


Unfortunately, worked for Cintas in the Sanis division. Basically a janitor. Urinals are way more nasty to clean than toilets. Urine cheese is a bitch to get out of the crevices. And the major cause of terrible urinal smell. He's better off using a stall. I know TMI.
One of my neighbors wears a kilt everyday...even in winter but it's not that long.....it's half that length, which is why I think his skirt is too long to accomodate a quick piss without hiking the skirt.....urinals that have crevices are old design..they make them now with no ridges...one smooth surface all the way to the hole...those old urinals were gross..a well designed urinal is a perfect funnel...no flat backboard or ridges in the bottom or top anywhere.....I worked in schools for a long time and they can be gross...our school swapped them out quite a while back
 
OT: pre-ordered that signed Carmelo Anthony book and comes with certificate of authenticity. Why not… future hall of famer and top 10 scorer in the NBA.
 
One of my neighbors wears a kilt everyday...even in winter but it's not that long.....it's half that length, which is why I think his skirt is too long to accomodate a quick piss without hiking the skirt.....urinals that have crevices are old design..they make them now with no ridges...one smooth surface all the way to the hole...those old urinals were gross..a well designed urinal is a perfect funnel...no flat backboard or ridges in the bottom or top anywhere.....I worked in schools for a long time and they can be gross...our school swapped them out quite a while back
Unfortunately, the majority are still the funky old ones.
 
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