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riverman said:
Try an author you don't know about bro...you'll be surprised.
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A few years ago PBS ran a series America Reads. People entered favorite fiction titles. They picked top 100. A few on the list I have absolutely no interest in but am reading all the rest. Got about three fourths read so far. Many authors I had not known about. And not a bad book yet.

While I don't miss my long daily BART ride to Genentech, I did get a lot of reading done.

Fortunately I live in a state that doesn't ban books.t
 
THE HCP said:
Understanding this now, but I don’t want to keep books. I just want to listen to them and move on. Like Spotify. If I want to listen to Going to California by Les zeppelin, I don’t want to buy the whole album.
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The credit system sucks a little at first, but most people won't listen to more than one book per month so you build up a few credits. You can also usually preview books. I've had audible for a few years and have built up more credits than I need, so its a system that works well over time. There are also tons of free books n stuff. You don't have to "keep" anything but it's on your library if you ever need it again. If you cancel your membership you keep the books in your library but lose your credits. Right now I am looking for books to download so I can cancel my subscription for awhile and catch up.
 
THE HCP said:
Just checked our local library’s catalogue. They don’t have nearly any of the authors I want. Oh well. Crazy that all this time I thought you could just stream books like Spotify does music. Time to start the bootlegging again.
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That's my point and thats bullshit, bro. What if someone started stealing your work, your content, the way you make a living and called it "bootlegging"?

Why people think stealing content is OK is beyond me. If someone stole your stuff, you would call it what it is.

STEALING.
 
Stevenson said:
That's my point and thats bullshit, bro. What if someone started stealing your work, your content, the way you make a living and called it "bootlegging"?

Why people think stealing content is OK is beyond me. If someone stole your stuff, you would call it what it is.

STEALING.
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Spotify pays the musicians, he's not talking about using Torrent. When I was a young kid I used to use Napster, I thought it was great getting all the music for free. Paying $20 for a CD back then seemed like such a rip off. Now that I am older, I have far greater appreciation for peoples hard work making good content and am willing to pay for it in order to incentivize them to continue making more good content. When I was a kid, I didn't care about any of that, nor did I really understand it haha.
 
He said "bootlegging."

Obviously, I create content for a living. I had this same discussion with my own kids many times. When you steal content, no matter what you call it or what your groovy rationalization, you are taking money from someone's family.
 
Stevenson said:
He said "bootlegging."

Obviously, I create content for a living. I had this same discussion with my own kids many times. When you steal content, no matter what you call it or what your groovy rationalization, you are taking money from someone's family.
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Once you've bought the Beatles Revolver on LP, 8 trk, cassette and then cd you have every right to make a backup copy in my view....I've only copied music I've already bought and sometimes bought in several formats....record companies don't reimburse you for your old 8trk tape purchases or cassette purchases once they introduce a new playback format. Otherwise I think it's theft to copy something you haven't paid for. I burned a lot of my cassette and LP collections onto CD so I don't lose what I've already paid for.
 
Stevenson said:
That's my point and thats bullshit, bro. What if someone started stealing your work, your content, the way you make a living and called it "bootlegging"?

Why people think stealing content is OK is beyond me. If someone stole your stuff, you would call it what it is.

STEALING.
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If someone stole my stuff I wouldn't have access to it anymore. Not paying for something I was never going to pay for isn't stealing. It may be copyright infringement, but it's not theft.

Don't want normal people to infringe your copyright for entertainment? Come up with a better means of distribution.
 
Stevenson said:
He said "bootlegging."

Obviously, I create content for a living. I had this same discussion with my own kids many times. When you steal content, no matter what you call it or what your groovy rationalization, you are taking money from someone's family.
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If it's easier to pirate your content than buy it then you are doing something wrong.

I pay for netflix. I pay for audible. I pay for Amazon, Disney, and a few others. I get both Google and Amazon's music services included.

But I have found that watching the bootleg versions of nearly everything is just so much easier (after the initial setup, of course).
 
When I bought my property here over 20 some years ago we went to get library cards as I've always been a voracious reader and I realized the vast majority of my reading history had been male authors and I'd read them all....I decided to explore only female authors for a change and discovered so many great authors and novels...Margaret Atwood and many others.....now I have to check out large print for my eyes.....always something new to discover.
 
Phatguysrule said:
If it's easier to pirate your content than buy it then you are doing something wrong.

I pay for netflix. I pay for audible. I pay for Amazon, Disney, and a few others. I get both Google and Amazon's music services included.

But I have found that watching the bootleg versions of nearly everything is just so much easier (after the initial setup, of course).
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Nice rationalization for stealing. If you don’t pay for it, don’t read it, or watch it, or listen to it. Because it’s not yours.
 
Stevenson said:
Nice rationalization for stealing. If you don’t pay for it, don’t read it, or watch it, or listen to it. Because it’s not yours.
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I understand your stance....but I've never seen you get this fired up when somebody looks for a link of a bootleg stream of a Blazer game on here. Or maybe I just missed it?
 
Stevenson said:
Of course I would not condone that either, it's just not something I ever think about. But people stealing my content and thinking it's nbd? That really pisses me off.
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I pay for content unless it's too inconvenient. I pay for redundant services to make sure I'm covered.

My simple point is that content creators should make sure their content is readily available through legal channels if they don't want it to be pirated.

Artificial scarcity isn't the way.
 
Phatguysrule said:
I pay for content unless it's too inconvenient. I pay for redundant services to make sure I'm covered.

My simple point is that content creators should make sure their content is readily available through legal channels if they don't want it to be pirated.

Artificial scarcity isn't the way.
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I really don't get what you are saying, "Readily available through legal channels." Where else would it be? Someone can look and easily download one of my books and not pay for it, or they could go to Amazon. Or is that too inconvenient?
 
Stevenson said:
I really don't get what you are saying, "Readily available through legal channels." Where else would it be? Someone can look and easily download one of my books and not pay for it, or they could go to Amazon. Or is that too inconvenient?
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I didn't mean to imply I was talking specifically about you. I'm talking more about Blazer games on Root, blackouts, or TV shows which aren't available in certain locations, etc.

If your books are available on Amazon for a reasonable prices then I think you're probably doing it right.

That's why I pay for Amazon, audible, etc.
 
Speaking of books. I went to SF Ballet this afternoon with book to read on BART. I was in my seat when I realized I had left my book in the ladies' room. The restrooms are a floor below seating at end of a long hallway and it was two minutes to curtain. I hauled ass at full sprint, grabbed my book, sprinted upstairs, all this in high heels, and got to my seat out of breath with just enough time to mute my phone before the performance. Which incidentally was fabulous.
 
I have to admit that I try to pay for every content I consume, just like I hope every piece of software I write is not pirated.

I can assure you that going the cloud way in our professional code was specifically because the software was pirated often. Good luck doing that without the server back-end.

It is not easy for book or music content creators
 
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