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Trackjack said:
I believe Neil going to wait and see approach. He waiting to see how the team going to play with Nurk in the lineup. Nurk need to play at least 28 to 32 minutes per game so the team can be evaluated the rest of the season. Then we will evaluate what to do in the off season.
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Sorry but that would be boring! He may have a real opportunity here and he's just going to let it pass him by?
 
BigGameDamian said:
Sorry but that would be boring! He may have a real opportunity here and he's just going to let it pass him by?
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Hasn't stopped him before. Its like having the RLEC all over again. He could make something happen. Let's see if he has it in him to do something that would absolutely blow our minds. Keeping the picks and saying 'Welp, it's time to rebuild!" After what he has done in the last two years absolutely makes no sense
 
OneLifeToLive said:
Hasn't stopped him before. Its like having the RLEC all over again. He could make something happen. Let's see if he has it in him to do something that would absolutely blow our minds. Keeping the picks and saying 'Welp, it's time to rebuild!" After what he has done in the last two years absolutely makes no sense
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If Neil keeps the picks players in this draft probably won't be true contributes till Dame and CJ are in there 30's.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Let's just go whole hog and get both of them.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=j7lhhsa
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You absolute madman.

I assume Portland's three picks are going to Chicago in that. I'd do that (obviously, I guess?). But all of this depends on interpreting David Aldridge's comment as Butler and George being in play for Portland's three picks and I think Schilly and RR7 are correct in saying Aldridge meant they'd get any of Portland's (more modest) actual targets.
 
TBpup said:
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Good fun. So the Blazers line-up is:

Dame / Rondo / Napier / Quarterman
Butler / Turner / Connaughton
George / Turner / Layman
Vonleh / Aminu
Big Bear / Davis

I'm up for that.
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In that lineup, I'd start Davis over Vonleh. That's a contending lineup, no room for giving out starter minutes for development. Davis would provide rebounding, defense and rim runs off pick-and-rolls with...those other dudes.
 
If we trade for a 32 year old player, I'd be despondent - and Neil should be fired.

IMO we should be going with a youth refresh.

Nurkic - 22 years old
Get Okafor - 21 years old
Harkless - 23 years old
Then decide which of Dame / CJ you want at point to build around:
DL/CJ at 26/25 years old

Trade all of our other pieces for draft picks.
Re-Tool the roster with youngsters at the draft.

Maybe we could package some of our assets (with our own pick) to move up in the draft
Lonzo Ball
CJ
Harkless
Okafor / Isaac
Nurkic

OR

Lillard
Jackson
Harkless
Okafor / Markkanen
Nurkic

These options are just so much more appealing than wasting resources on a 32 year old Millsap to just watch him slowly lose athleticism/breakdown over the next few years as he helps propel us into NBA purgatory.
 
Reep said:
Wrong question at the wrong time. The first question is what would you have to give the Pacers to pry him loose. Assuming you can do that, then you have to ask, after a year of playing in Portland, would he likely stay? If you get him to Portland, playing with Dame and CJ, with a decent center (Nurckic), I think that team could be quite good and could convince him to stay.

But, the first question is the problem right now.
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If he has no interest in it now then it would prove pretty hard to turn him or get him fully invested in the attempt of making it work.
 
Reep said:
It would be a nice package for a rebuilding team. Three first rounders in a guard heavy draft a several wing/bigs who can shoot, and at a slight cost savings.

The main piece it is missing is the centerpiece. There is no top five pick or single really coveted player going out from Portland. It is a nice collection of pieces. In the end, it may still be the best Indiana gets. It does make me think that they may wait until the end of the season to see what Portland's pick actually ends up being. It feels more like a summer trade than a mid-season one.
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Any hope of obtaining Butler/George hinges on it being a Draft Day trade - it's not going to happen at the deadline. Waiting assures CHI/IND that our pick will be better than if we made the trade at the deadline. Also, the excitement of the draft will help grease the skids a heck of a lot more on Draft Day than it does 4 months before the draft.
 
Scalma said:
I dont think there's a wrong way to attack here. I will say this though; draft picks take years to develop. The odds you'll add instant impact is pretty low.
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Given how low the bar has been set at PF (and even SF to an extent) I don't think it's unrealistic to think that a rookie could outperform any PF we have on the roster. Are there any 4-year PFs in the draft?
 
TBpup said:
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Good fun. So the Blazers line-up is:

Dame / Rondo / Napier / Quarterman
Butler / Turner / Connaughton
George / Turner / Layman
Vonleh / Aminu
Big Bear / Davis

I'm up for that.
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get us Mirotic too and its a deal
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Not many.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Alec-Peters-77931/
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Nigel-Hayes-69526/
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Luke-Kornet-78500/
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Chris-Boucher-96177/
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What's the word on Chris Boucher? I can't remember if we have any 2nds in this draft, but if we do how about using one on this guy? Physique reminds me of Gobert. Skimming the report on him, his defense also sounds Gobert-esque, but with ability to stretch the floor on offense. I'm already sold on him being better than any of our PFs!!!
 
Chris Craig said:
get us Mirotic too and its a deal
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Mirotic would be interesting, and might be a great choice if we cannot get one of the big guns. I would hesitate to take him unless we could really give him some minutes. He seems like a nice stretch 4 who plays decent defense. But, he isn't a shoe in and if he didn't really excel I would be worried he could be a distraction. In many ways he is a more experienced Layman.

It would be great to have a better defender at that position, but if we cannot get PG and Vonleh doesn't develop then having a Mirotic/Layman combo might work okay.
 
blue9 said:
What's the word on Chris Boucher? I can't remember if we have any 2nds in this draft, but if we do how about using one on this guy? Physique reminds me of Gobert. Skimming the report on him, his defense also sounds Gobert-esque, but with ability to stretch the floor on offense. I'm already sold on him being better than any of our PFs!!!
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He sounds more like Noel with Bill Cartwright's mechanics.
 
blue9 said:
What's the word on Chris Boucher? I can't remember if we have any 2nds in this draft, but if we do how about using one on this guy? Physique reminds me of Gobert. Skimming the report on him, his defense also sounds Gobert-esque, but with ability to stretch the floor on offense. I'm already sold on him being better than any of our PFs!!!
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With his range, he reminds me a lot more of Ibaka than Gobert.

I don't think we have a 2nd this year, but I'm sure Neil wouldn't find it too terribly difficult to pick one up if Boucher were a guy he wanted.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
With his range, he reminds me a lot more of Ibaka than Gobert.

I don't think we have a 2nd this year, but I'm sure Neil wouldn't find it too terribly difficult to pick one up if Boucher were a guy he wanted.
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It's really just that long & skinny frame, coupled with the idea that he's a rim protector, that makes me think Gobert. Aside from his photo on the DX page you linked, I've never seen the guy, and I only skimmed the report.
 
blue9 said:
It's really just that long & skinny frame, coupled with the idea that he's a rim protector, that makes me think Gobert. Aside from his photo on the DX page you linked, I've never seen the guy, and I only skimmed the report.
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what about the dude the mock has us taking with the Memphis pick?
he's a 3 year guy not a 4 year guy like the ones listed, but is ranked much higher...
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Johnathan-Motley-72553/
and he's a young junior too
 
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blue9 said:
What's the word on Chris Boucher? I can't remember if we have any 2nds in this draft, but if we do how about using one on this guy? Physique reminds me of Gobert. Skimming the report on him, his defense also sounds Gobert-esque, but with ability to stretch the floor on offense. I'm already sold on him being better than any of our PFs!!!
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Of all Oregon Ducks, Jordan Bell is the one I want us to target. He's more physically ready for the NBA than Boucher and is just as dominating down low protecting the paint. Factor in his elite athleticism for his size and improving jumper, I think he'll be a steal for any NBA team that picks him up.
 
blue9 said:
Still sounds better than anyone we have at PF!
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Certainly a guy worth taking a flyer on if you can do it for cheap. I haven't seen him play. Is his shot slow or just awkward? Guys with slow releases seem to really struggle in the NBA.
 
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