Trade Avdija to Blazers (1 Viewer)

[Ed O]

Look at the True Shooting %. That's really the key to offensive efficiency. 60%, that's 2% better than the league average, and like 6% better than the Blazers pathetic team average.

He's also a good defender, rebounder, passer....

Young, good contract. This is a good deal.

I'm not sold on it at all as it feels like it's about being better now (which is a fool's errand) and money than I would prefer. Giving up a short term contract in Brogdon who should have value and two first rounders... I dunno.

It is what it is, but I'm not buying that he's had a "breakout" any more than I believed Thybulle was a good three point shooter or any number of other small sample size assertions that some have thought on this board.

 

[beast blazer]

This is wrong. Haberstroh is an idiot.

Advija was born in January of 2001 and Knecht was born in April of 2001.

But Deni is younger at heart...

 

[wizenheimer]

reporting from an RV park in Burns...with spotty wifi....I think it's a pretty decent trade for the Blazers with the provision we have to hope the 2nd best pick in 2029 isn't a top-10 pick

 

[beast blazer]

I'm not sold on it at all as it feels like it's about being better now (which is a fool's errand) and money than I would prefer. Giving up a short term contract in Brogdon who should have value and two first rounders... I dunno.

It is what it is, but I'm not buying that he's had a "breakout" any more than I believed Thybulle was a good three point shooter or any number of other small sample size assertions that some have thought on this board.

Think about where Deni would be drafted if he came out this year. He's the same age as Dalton and
-Higher TS%
-much better rebounder
-much better passer
-much better defender

And he did that at the NBA level.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

From the 2020 draft...

 

[MrDraftGuy]

Remember when Portland fans wanted Hedo Turkoglu?

Well, here you go, 15 years later....Hedo/Batum kinda player

 

[andalusian]

Remember when Portland fans wanted Hedo Turkoglu?

Well, here you go, 15 years later....Hedo/Batum kinda player

Hedo didn't defend

 

[Eastoff]

Any chance Portland activists decide to protest the Blazers?

Why?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Why?

Because he's Israeli, and there are a lot of pro-Palestine protesters in Portland.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Because he's Israeli, and there are a lot of pro-Palestine protesters in Portland.

The Palestine protesters here in Portland are amateur. Nothing pro about them.

 

[BlayZa]

good player
great contract

lost a v.good player
gave 2 1sts

 

[Phatguysrule]

reporting from an RV park in Burns...with spotty wifi....I think it's a pretty decent trade for the Blazers with the provision we have to hope the 2nd best pick in 2029 isn't a top-10 pick

If it is I don't think Cronin will still be working for Portland

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Reminds me of Franz....who I wanted badly

I think he is probably a better defender than Wagner, right?

 

[Mediocre Man]

I think he is probably a better defender than Wagner, right?

He seems to be a good defender with a high basketball IQ

 

[maxiep]

Remember when Portland fans wanted Hedo Turkoglu?

Well, here you go, 15 years later....Hedo/Batum kinda player

I wonder if Toronto has a superior Israeli culture?

 

[BankTeller]

I like the trade. I didn’t at first, but quickly changed my mind.

He will probably be our best do-it-all forward since who, Batum? He’s also 23 and on a great contract. Trading Avdija only means Grant will be worth 2 1sts+ right? Grant would be the unanimously better player between the two I would assume.

 

[Whyachi]

So if Brogdon is in theory worth a first, we just sent 3 firsts for this guy??????

it's hard when an expensive baller is under contract and doesn't want be a Blazer. Great move by Cronin, even if it cost picks. You can't have that type of depressed chemistry in the locker room.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

So what the adjusted haul on the Dame trade now?

Avdija
Ayton
Timelord
Camera
2029 pick
2028 2030 swaps

Looks much worse now then when the deal was done and I was expecting Brogdon/Timelord to be flipped

 

[Eastoff]

So what the adjusted haul on the Dame trade now?

Avdija
Ayton
Timelord
Camera
2029 pick
2028 2030 swaps

Looks much worse now then when the deal was done and I was expecting Brogdon/Timelord to be flipped

Are you sure those are swaps?

 

[Natebishop3]

So what the adjusted haul on the Dame trade now?

Avdija
Ayton
Timelord
Camera
2029 pick
2028 2030 swaps

Looks much worse now then when the deal was done and I was expecting Brogdon/Timelord to be flipped

I don’t think you can take the Boston pick out. It very well might be our own pick that conveys.

 

[Paine Tablet]

Do you think he accounted for how many Israelis IDF killed that day?

 

[Natebishop3]

Do you think he accounted for how many Israelis IDF killed that day?

Can we not?

 

[SharpesTriumph]

I don’t think you can take the Boston pick out. It very well might be our own pick that conveys.

Yeah I guess you could list it as a swap we have with Boston then a lesser swap we gave up to Washington.

 

[Natebishop3]

It's safe to assume a lot of things about Israelis and Zionists in general. They do public opinion polls all the time and it's frightening.

Seriously get this shit out of the main forum.

 

[Natebishop3]

Can you not post this in the main forum?

 

[blazerfan11]

Are you sure those are swaps?

"So the Blazers made the much-awaited blockbuster trade on Wednesday, trading Lillard to the Milwaukee Bucks in a three-team deal that sent Jrue Holiday, Deandre Ayton, Toumani Camara, a 2029 first-round Bucks pick and two Bucks pick swaps in 2028 and 2030 to Portland.Sep 28, 2023"

The pick swap in 2028 will only be available if the Blazers don't have to transfer their first-round pick to the Chicago Bulls.
Thanks to Neil Olshey, a lottery-protected pick is owed to Chicago through 2028.

• Blazers may have right to swap first-round picks with Milwaukee Bucks.
  Note: This swap is protected for #15-30, which means if Portland’s first-round pick is conveyed to the Bulls in this draft, the swap with the Bucks does not occur.

 

[BIG Q]

Seriously get this shit out of the main forum.

I knew this was coming.

 

[PCmor7]

So what the adjusted haul on the Dame trade now?

Avdija
Ayton
Timelord
Camera
2029 pick
2028 2030 swaps

Looks much worse now then when the deal was done and I was expecting Brogdon/Timelord to be flipped

Misspelled "Gamera."

 

[beast blazer]

So what the adjusted haul on the Dame trade now?

Avdija
Ayton
Timelord
Camera
2029 pick
2028 2030 swaps

Looks much worse now then when the deal was done and I was expecting Brogdon/Timelord to be flipped

I was just going say this. But Ayton and Camara was mostly for Nurk and Little. Dame accounts for some of it with Grayson Allen going to the Bucks, but I think that deal was going to happen anyway.

It's really Deni, RW3 and the swaps. A 2029 pick also went out for Deni.

And given that RW3 is useless. We pretty much traded Damian for Deni and swaps.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Do you think he accounted for how many Israelis IDF killed that day?

It's safe to assume a lot of things about Israelis and Zionists in general. They do public opinion polls all the time and it's frightening.

Please move this to OT