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CJ_is_Gone said:
I agree that we need shooting. Knecht is not that dude.
He's severely overrated
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He might be a little overrated, and he might have been an older rookie, but he was still just a rookie last year who shot 38% from three.
 
wizenheimer said:
That was 5 seasons ago and subsequent seasons showed that the engines that drove the Suns to the finals were CP3, Bridges, Johnson, and Crowder; not Ayton (imagine that: 3 wings)

last season, when the Blazers were trying to win, their record with Ayton was 17-23; their record without him was 19-23. That is the opposite of a finals-worthy impact
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I suspect the engines that would drive LA would actually be Luka and LeBron..... not Ayton.
 
wizenheimer said:
That was 5 seasons ago and subsequent seasons showed that the engines that drove the Suns to the finals were CP3, Bridges, Johnson, and Crowder; not Ayton (imagine that: 3 wings)

last season, when the Blazers were trying to win, their record with Ayton was 17-23; their record without him was 19-23. That is the opposite of a finals-worthy impact
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16 pts 12 boards that year. He helped.
What he did in Portland is irrelevant to the topic. We are talking about whether he can help a playoff team that has no center.
Not a team that tanked.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
16 pts 12 boards that year. He helped.
What he did in Portland is irrelevant to the topic. We are talking about whether he can help a playoff team that has no center.
Not a team that tanked.
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Portland didn't tank this year and Ayton didn't help them a bit
 
Natebishop3 said:
He barely played.
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And at least one of us wishes he had played even less.

Better team when he sat.

Yeah, biased, don’t care for him as a player (or perhaps it is that I prefer him as a non-player so long as he is a Blazer)
 
I'm thinking a swap from the Lakers or Knecht for Ayton is fair for both sides.

Main issue I could see is if the Lakers are hoping to get more rotational players with such a big salary slot. Could be similar concerns from any other potential suitors.

Ultimately might need to wait until the deadline which will be annoying. Maybe there's a way to try to get him to give a decent amount back in a buyout.
 
Portland does it for a couple of 2nds, and a flyer on Smith. We waive Okogie. Kleber and Vincent provide veteran depth to a team looking to win, but also gives us more easily tradeable contracts at the deadline.

Lakers get a stopgap for minimal cost.

Hornets take a flyer on a young C


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SharpesTriumph said:
I'm thinking a swap from the Lakers or Knecht for Ayton is fair for both sides.

Main issue I could see is if the Lakers are hoping to get more rotational players with such a big salary slot. Could be similar concerns from any other potential suitors.

Ultimately might need to wait until the deadline which will be annoying. Maybe there's a way to try to get him to give a decent amount back in a buyout.
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I would love this. It would fix our mistake of not drafting Knecht in the 1st place.
 
National radio syndicate was talking about the Lakers should go after Ayton, but didn't mention what they would give up.
Any chance a deal can be made to get Austin Reaves? I know little about their situation and assets or lack of.
 
SharpeScooterShooter said:
National radio syndicate was talking about the Lakers should go after Ayton, but didn't mention what they would give up.
Any chance a deal can be made to get Austin Reaves? I know little about their situation and assets or lack of.
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Maybe if we give up Scoot or Sharpe.

Ayton doesn't have close to the value of Reaves.
 
dviss1 said:
I would love this. It would fix our mistake of not drafting Knecht in the 1st place.
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He kind of doesn't fit the defensive archetype that Cronin has been adding but in terms of talent yeah Knecht plus filler seems fair.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Maybe if we give up Scoot or Sharpe.

Ayton doesn't have close to the value of Reaves.
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Then I'm out. I don't know much about reaves to know what he should command. Ive just heard he is their best young player and fits our shooting PF needs i think.
How about Ayton/RW3 and a future 1st for Reaves and salary filler?
 
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SharpeScooterShooter said:
National radio syndicate was talking about the Lakers should go after Ayton, but didn't mention what they would give up.
Any chance a deal can be made to get Austin Reaves? I know little about their situation and assets or lack of.
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They have three wings that I think they would give up first all of whom they'd play (Rui, DFS and Vando with Vando being the most likely) they also have two vets that are not very good but are on expiring 111M contracts in Vincent and Kleber. I'd do this trade and I think they would to, maybe some on here want to extract more value out of Ayton, especially if it's a contender who desperately needs him to start but I'd be good with getting rid of him. We'd waive Vincent and Kleber.
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GrandpaBlaze said:
And at least one of us wishes he had played even less.

Better team when he sat.

Yeah, biased, don’t care for him as a player (or perhaps it is that I prefer him as a non-player so long as he is a Blazer)
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Ayton was playing at a high level during our 10-1 stretch. It was the best we looked all year.
 
blazerkor said:
They have three wings that I think they would give up first all of whom they'd play (Rui, DFS and Vando with Vando being the most likely) they also have two vets that are not very good but are on expiring 111M contracts in Vincent and Kleber. I'd do this trade and I think they would to, maybe some on here want to extract more value out of Ayton, especially if it's a contender who desperately needs him to start but I'd be good with getting rid of him. We'd waive Vincent and Kleber.
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Don't love Vando's contract, but I'd probably do it as well. Ideally get some 2nds for taking on the longer contract/giving up the better player. Still would prefer Knecht in there somewhere.

As I mentioned earlier, I'd probably keep Kleber and Vincent around as salary matching at the deadline. No point in waving them and paying them anyways. Would make decent vet backups.
 
blazerkor said:
They have three wings that I think they would give up first all of whom they'd play (Rui, DFS and Vando with Vando being the most likely) they also have two vets that are not very good but are on expiring 111M contracts in Vincent and Kleber. I'd do this trade and I think they would to, maybe some on here want to extract more value out of Ayton, especially if it's a contender who desperately needs him to start but I'd be good with getting rid of him. We'd waive Vincent and Kleber.
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There’s no real incentive for us to do this. I’d just let Ayton walk. I need either Knecht or a pick.
 
Natebishop3 said:
There’s no real incentive for us to do this. I’d just let Ayton walk. I need either Knecht or a pick.
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Also, if win now if indeed the intent nxt season, DA still best of all bigs we have. Given he has expiring contract, either we keep him or deal him but only if we can get a first or quality young
 
SharpeScooterShooter said:
Then I'm out. I don't know much about reaves to know what he should command. Ive just heard he is their best young player and fits our shooting PF needs i think.
How about Ayton/RW3 and a future 1st for Reaves and salary filler?
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That's even worse.
 
SharpeScooterShooter said:
National radio syndicate was talking about the Lakers should go after Ayton, but didn't mention what they would give up.
Any chance a deal can be made to get Austin Reaves? I know little about their situation and assets or lack of.
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Rui, Reeves and Kleber for Ayton and Sharpe works?
 
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